Originally posted by zopzop
Odin couldn't handle Zeus, so he'll need some help.
What? I hope you aren't referring to their Fear Itself discussion because I have read some retarded and truly backward opinions over the years on battle boards and this would be pretty up there.
Odin can't take on Zeus solo? Not only is that batshit insane, the Skyfathers siding with Odin isn't evidence of Zeus' superiority. Odin didn't petition them out of helplessness or something, we didn't even see their argument, all we know is that the Skyfathers sided and agreed with Odin. Zeus was unhappy because Olympus would be caught in the crossfire or something but he went along with it.
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Originally posted by zopzopSo your argument is Olympus argued against it but was too chicken sh-t to take it to war as your proof Zeus beats odin.
It more than that and you now it Quan. Odin was ADAMANT that they wipe the planet clean of humans to stop the Serpent from drawing his power from their fear. And Zeus wasn't going to allow that to happen because Olympus was currently residing on Earth.The matter was only settled when the other Skyfathers sided with Odin and said it was an internal Asgardian matter and if Olympus interfered the other pantheons would step in.
In this thread, Asgard doesn't have the other pantheons to back it up.
Odin's wiser than Zeus just like I said. Odin and asgard is flat out superior to Olympus. Thor had to save zeus' bacon from Desak. Sorry, but asgard is just superior when it comes down to it.
Originally posted by zopzopThe fight looked even. Asgard handled it. Asgard would handle Zeus as well. Odin has too many options to springboard past Zeus. Equal power to Odin is the highest compliment paid to Zeus. Not Odin.
Based on the fact that the fight only ended when the other pantheons took Asgard's side in the Serpent affair.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Equal power to Odin is the highest compliment paid to Zeus. Not Odin.
That's true. Odin is the measuring stick in Marvel when it comes to skyfather beings. Mephisto and Dormammu alike have compared their powers to him.
Asgard is consistently portrayed as the pantheon supreme and only recently under Pak does Olympus get some props (which are deserved, mind you).
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI like Zeus for being an absolute dic-. He needs to be different from odin. I like Pak really upping Zeus as Olympus needs more play. But like others have said marvel has always favored asgard mainly due to Thor's ongoing. The odinpower in marvel is the pinnacle of skyfather power.
That's true. Odin is the measuring stick in Marvel when it comes to skyfather beings. Mephisto and Dormammu alike have compared their powers to him.Asgard is consistently portrayed as the pantheon supreme and only recently under Pak does Olympus get some props (which are deserved, mind you).
Originally posted by zopzop
Pluto can definitely take Hela too. That skank had problems with Enchantress and Darwin. I've never seen Pluto sink that low.
Not really. Who'd win between the two is extremely debatable.
And I have, pretty sure Pluto had problems with Sif in single combat. IIRC he was also pretty pissed because of how badly Thor kicked his ass.
Been a while since I read that fight but it's definitely not a bad showing depending on how she was portrayed. Enchantress has some very impressive showings under her belt. For example, I remember her getting the better of Nightmare in his realm while being pretty weakened. Then there's her showing against Seth, the World Tree etc.
The Darwin thing was meh, used as a plot device but if he can copy Hela's death god powers, he can copy Pluto's.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
and Hera is probably the next most powerful person after those two.
Creating constellations casually and what not.
Not really, Thor, Loki etc. are the clear favorites in a fight from what I've seen.
She didn't create any constellations as I recall, Zeus simply listed it as an optional punishment for his lover. And you'd have to more conclusive evidence if you're assuming she was actually physically moving around Stars. Frankly, I find that to be a pretty unrealistic assessment based on what we know.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? I hope you aren't referring to their Fear Itself discussion because I have read some retarded and truly backward opinions over the years on battle boards and this would be pretty up there.Odin can't take on Zeus solo? Not only is that batshit insane, the Skyfathers siding with Odin isn't evidence of Zeus' superiority. Odin didn't petition them out of helplessness or something, we didn't even see their argument, all we know is that the Skyfathers sided and agreed with Odin. Zeus was unhappy because Olympus would be caught in the crossfire or something but he went along with it.
Formspring Gillen so he can laugh at you.
I never said Zeus was superior to Odin. I meant Odin and Zeus went at it and Zeus had no fear of Odin. Zeus didn't back down or quit till the other pantheons sided with Asgard.
Odin isn't steamrolling post Pak Zeus.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The fight looked even. Asgard handled it. Asgard would handle Zeus as well. Odin has too many options to springboard past Zeus. Equal power to Odin is the highest compliment paid to Zeus. Not Odin.
The fight was even. That's my whole point.
And Asgard didn't handle anything. The other pantheons decided it was Asgard's business and Olympus better stay out of it.
Originally posted by zopzop
I never said Zeus was superior to Odin. I meant Odin and Zeus went at it and Zeus had no fear of Odin. Zeus didn't back down or quit till the other pantheons sided with Asgard.Odin isn't steamrolling post Pak Zeus.
Then I misjudged the meaning of your statement, apologies.
You're gonna need more convincing evidence than an aggressive argument -that we only saw a page of- for me not to give Odin 10/10 against Zeus.
The battles have varying degrees of difficulty but Odin will beat Zeus every single time as it stands. Anything that the Olympian can do, the All-Father can trump and do better. And I'm mostly talking about applications of power, Odin's wisdom and sorcery, alternate resources of energy and power ceilings, means that picking him as the winner is the only real objective choice.
Originally posted by zopzopYes, the fight was even so you didn't have a point. factor in their capabilities and histories you should have no choice but to side with Odin.
The fight was even. That's my whole point.And Asgard didn't handle anything. The other pantheons decided it was Asgard's business and Olympus better stay out of it.
Asgard argued it's case better. Zeus is an idiot when compared to the wisdom of Odin.
