Talisman & Shaman vs. John Constatine & Zatanna

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Talisman & Shaman vs. John Constatine & Zatanna

vs.

1. Random encounter
2. 1 day prep

Who wins?

waits for k-m

Is this a straight up fight? Because if it is, team 1 stomps. Give Constantine prep and he solos. Like he always does.

Re: Talisman & Shaman vs. John Constatine & Zatanna

1. Random encounter
2. 1 day prep

Who wins? [/B][/QUOTE]

Team 1 stomps in random encounter, with prep that becomes iffy with John. However, he isn't the type to prep and fight he is a manipulator (also one day isn't a lot). While Talisman and Shaman have access to the Void, which "consists of millions of worlds, with trillions of magical spells" so prep should be on their side as it's all in Shaman's medicine bag so easy access

John will manipulate ftw. He's the best at that type of thing.q

Originally posted by Prep-Man
John will manipulate ftw. He's the best at that type of thing.q

Co-signed

Originally posted by Prep-Man
John will manipulate ftw. He's the best at that type of thing.q

and what will he exactly do? He doesn't have much time and it's not like their going to have a conversation it;s a fight.

Originally posted by -K-M-
and what will he exactly do? He doesn't have much time and it's not like their going to have a conversation it;s a fight.

He sells Zatanna to Doom.

.....uuuuh another thread where Doom is randomly just brought up

Random? Maybe, maybe not. Allow me to explain my reasoning.

Constantine has a history of using his friends as bargains.

Zatanna is quite the catch, power-wise (yes, the fishnets help too).

He knows his enemies are from the Marvel U.

Therefore, he needs to find a big player in the mystical world, who is open to gaining large amounts of power, in Marvel.

Yes, I could have gone with Dormammu/Mephisto or something, but I reckoned Doom would be up for a deal. Plus, I wanted to use someone who might actually make a difference - if I had brought up any other bad guy (becuase, let's face it, good guys Strange aren'tgoing to do a deal) then someone would bring up all the times they have been beaten by Talisman/Shaman.

So not QUITE random, I did give it a bit of thought....

Calling for outside help from people not listed in the thread is against the rules of the match. As Talisman and Shaman could just do the same and raise an mystical army or call in their friends from the X-Men and Alpha Flight. Not applicable.

Damn then I'm pretty much out of ideas lol. Constantine doesn't usually fight his own battles - his prep involves calling in favours or using outsiders. Short of that, I guess he could try and throw up some illusions or some such, or even a mind swap routine....but other than that, Talisman/Shaman would take it.

Originally posted by -K-M-
and what will he exactly do? He doesn't have much time and it's not like their going to have a conversation it;s a fight.

Constantine doesn't fight. He's a master prep.

Exactly, so what is he going to do here under these stipulations?

What universe is this battle taking place? DC? Marvel? Neutral? If it's DC, Constantine will talk his way. Persuade someone, get an artifact, etc...

If it's Marvel, he'll need some luck. But he might find a way.

If it's neutral, he's screwed.

1. team one stomps
2. hard to go against Constantine w/ prep...

Originally posted by Prep-Man
What universe is this battle taking place? DC? Marvel? Neutral? If it's DC, Constantine will talk his way. Persuade someone, get an artifact, etc...

If it's Marvel, he'll need some luck. But he might find a way.

If it's neutral, he's screwed.

You can't get someone to fight for you just by talking to them (summoning is different and controlling is different). Following that logic in a prep thread with Batman he could talk to the JLA to fight for him. Also what artifact will he get in one day? He doesn't have Shaman's pouch that literally has "millions of worlds, with trillions of magical spells" all at his fingertips. With just one day prep the scenario heavily favors team Marvel with prep and would be interested to see if he could get an item that could stop Talisman who can simply just cancel magic out.

Originally posted by -K-M-
You can't get someone to fight for you, and what artifact will he get in one day? He doesn't have Shaman's pouch that literally has "millions of worlds, with trillions of magical spells" all at his fingertips.

Is that part of the rules on the forum, because Constantine has done that in the past. He's defeated FOF in just a few days prep. He basically makes them defeat themselves.

BTW, who is that in your avatar/sig?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Is that part of the rules on the forum, because Constantine has done that in the past. He's defeated FOF in just a few days prep. He basically makes them defeat themselves.

BTW, who is that in your avatar/sig?

That was in a few days, not one. As I mentioned if you give Batman prep whats to stop him just talking to the JLA and getting them to fight for him? Can't do that.

Avatar: No clue the origin
http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/366483/82463712.jpg

Sig: I forget where I got it, it's pretty old. I believe its Martian Manhunter from his mini before his death