Thanos, Doom & Void vs. Prime, Hank & HP Doomsday

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, you're stalling. Hank isn't as prone to magic than doom's armor is to technopathy. Its technopathy and doom's armor is tech, how does magic counter technopathy again?
a. We're assuming hank fights doom here. I'm not saying he would certainly do so, its a hypothetical situation.
b. He is a technopath, its in his nature. C'mon jake, why wouldn't he hack A TECHNOLOGICAL ARMOR. Even fighting doomsday clone, he was controlling watchtower for lulz.
c. In hurting hank, no. Stopping his technopathy absolutely unless you have a scan of his magic stopping technopathy.
This is just a rant, jake. Its not like you. You're going too far in doom's defense. Actually, what's retarded is saying magic can stop technopathy which I've never seen.
Its superman.

Not really.

Magic in of itself doesn't counter technopathy - I never said that to begin with - but given that Doom can immobilize Hank, BFR him, or just bombard him with mystical assaults or summon creatures to attack him, it gives him a fighting chance to prevent Hank from even doing so. And that's assuming Hank immediately goes after Doom in this fight over Thanos and Void and immediately attempts to hack Doom and Doom just...watches, I guess. If you can show me Hank instantly hacking something as potent as Doomtech in the midst of a combat situation while being actively resisted, I'd appreciate it.

A.) Right, so we're arbitrarily arguing one of several possible hypothetical scenarios in how this fight could unfold.

B.) Which is why he didn't instantly hack Green Lanterns while fighting him even though he possesses the ability to - within time - corrupt Oan technology. He's battled Steel before and didn't resort instantly hacking his armor. Hank generally relies on his weapons and Kryptonian powers in the midst of combat. So, again, we're arguing a hypothetical scenario in which Hank would not only fight Doom, but fight Doom in a manner which has been arbitrarily decided upon just because.

C.) This was already addressed.

It's not a rant at all. This entire diversion started when I responded to the idea that Doom was a "weak link" which given his capabilities and his formidability here, that simply isn't true. That comment was then strawmanned (terribly) into me claiming that Thanos and Void are weaker than Doom. This entire "Doom vs. Henshaw" debacle is contingent on Hank fighting Doom to begin with and hacking Doom without interruption or interference from the other parties or Doom himself. Again, for the umpteenth time, there are too many possible scenarios in which this fight could unfold to just assume that this is how the fight definitely plays out.

It was PIS. Superman being Superman doesn't change that.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not really.

Magic in of itself doesn't counter technopathy - I never said that to begin with - but given that Doom can immobilize Hank, BFR him, or just bombard him with mystical assaults or summon creatures to attack him, it gives him a fighting chance to prevent Hank from even doing so. And that's assuming Hank immediately goes after Doom in this fight over Thanos and Void and immediately attempts to hack Doom and Doom just...watches, I guess. If you can show me Hank instantly hacking something as potent as Doomtech in the midst of a combat situation while being actively resisted, I'd appreciate it.

A.) Right, so we're arbitrarily arguing one of several possible hypothetical scenarios in how this fight could unfold.

B.) Which is why he didn't instantly hack Green Lanterns while fighting him even though he possesses the ability to - within time - corrupt Oan technology. He's battled Steel before and didn't resort instantly hacking his armor. Hank generally relies on his weapons and Kryptonian powers in the midst of combat. So, again, we're arguing a hypothetical scenario in which Hank would not only fight Doom, but fight Doom in a manner which has been arbitrarily decided upon just because.

C.) This was already addressed.

It's not a rant at all. This entire diversion started when I responded to the idea that Doom was a "weak link" which given his capabilities and his formidability here, that simply isn't true. That comment was then strawmanned (terribly) into me claiming that Thanos and Void are weaker than Doom. This entire "Doom vs. Henshaw" debacle is contingent on Hank fighting Doom to begin with and hacking Doom without interruption or interference from the other parties or Doom himself. Again, for the umpteenth time, there are too many possible scenarios in which this fight could unfold to just assume that this is how the fight definitely plays out.

It was PIS. Superman being Superman doesn't change that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You were saying exactly that. I'm not arguing who wins or not. I'm arguing why hank can't hack doom's armor. Which fight, in his first fight with with hal he had a shitload of gl rings already. No need for him to hack into hal's ring because he wanted to make hal a manhunter via willhunters. He hacked steel's suit in engine city, the second time he oneshotted all of superman rescue squad since he knew they wouldn't be able to tank them. You're taking two fights from dozens and generalise them. What about his multiple fights with superman where he's controlled an entire planet, apokoliptic tech, FOS tech, again a planet's tech, etc. That's assigning random character traits to a character. He fights with kryptonian powers and weapons against superman because there is nothing else to control. So there is nothing to stop hank from hacking doom's armor in a hypothetical situation, good.
I was joking jake.

No, I wasn't. And I'm not arguing who wins this either; just the idea that Doom is the weak link for his team. A lot of those fights are situational, dependent entirely on the environment they're in. The Watchtower, War World, Apokolips, Engine City, etc. OP has yet to clarify where this fight takes place, which very well could swing the battle one way or the other. If there's an appropriate arena in which Hank can invoke his technopathy on a large scale such a planet or city, that's one thing. By default, them fighting on a neutral setting invalidates a lot of those advantages. There's nothing stopping Doom from BFRing him or stopping/reversing time, either, then in a purely hypothetical situation. As it stands, there's a lot of variables and things to look at for this entire match, not just where Doom and Hank come in, which is what I've been saying all along and I hope to whatever god that's out there someone gets that.

I'd hope so. I've met people who legitimately think that no match is spite against Superman and that he's beyond PIS.

Team 1. Hank can hack Doom's armor instantly if you want to argue that. Doom can invoke a spell to time dump Hank as a last resort. It comes down to how fast Hank can take over that armor and disable Doom before Hank get's taken out by a BFR spell. Doom stalemated Morgana briefly and beat her later on. He humiliated Brother Voodoo, the new Sorcerer Supreme at the time. His armor packs enough fire power to disintegrated Mephisto briefly in his realm. That armor is half the battle, it's Doom himself that's the bigger threat.

If Doom becomes desperate and gets a chance to switches minds with Prime, team two becomes dust literally.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No, I wasn't. And I'm not arguing who wins this either; just the idea that Doom is the weak link for his team. A lot of those fights are situational, dependent entirely on the environment they're in. The Watchtower, War World, Apokolips, Engine City, etc. OP has yet to clarify where this fight takes place, which very well could swing the battle one way or the other. If there's an appropriate arena in which Hank can invoke his technopathy on a large scale such a planet or city, that's one thing. By default, them fighting on a neutral setting invalidates a lot of those advantages. There's nothing stopping Doom from BFRing him or stopping/reversing time, either, then in a purely hypothetical situation. As it stands, there's a lot of variables and things to look at for this entire match, not just where Doom and Hank come in, which is what I've been saying all along and I hope to whatever god that's out there someone gets that.

I'd hope so. I've met people who legitimately think that no match is spite against Superman and that he's beyond PIS.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are literally arguing in a circle. Hank doesn't having a technological area around him doesn't dampens his technopathy. You haven't given a single argument why hank can't hack doom's armor rather than using that "he wouldn't do it" routine used by hulk fans. I mean a supreme technopath not using his technopathy on a man wearing an armor is just stupid reasoning when he has done something like that countless times. Its like arguing superman wouldn't punch someone. I'm not asking what doom can do to hnk, I'm asking why hank can't hack doom's armor other than your usual "Its DOOM, He's got magickkkkkkkkk" explanation.

Please try and keep up here.

The environment and chosen locale of this fight is important in that if its a place in which Hank can freely use his technopathic control, it gives him a huge advantage. If its a neutral setting, he doesn't get that huge advantage. That is not the same as me stating it dampens his technology, which I clearly didn't state.

I've given plenty of reasons why it would be shortsighted at the very least to assume that Hank instantly hacks Doom. It's assuming that Hank fights Doom here to begin with and has uninterrupted opportunity to do so. Given the combatants in this fight as well as Doom's ability to BFR him or, y'know, fight back, it's ridiculous to assume that Hank is going to fight like how you want simply to suit your arguments here. Not even sure WTF Hulk has to do with this either outside of you wanting to make a random pot shot at his fanbase.

Also, if you can't see the irony in typing "Its DOOM, He's got magickkkkkkkkk" like it means something while in the same breath essentially exclaiming "Its HENSHAW, he's got hackingggggggg", that's pretty sad.

By all means, if you can prove Henshaw will be able to effortlessly hack Doom's armor before Doom retaliates, do so.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Please try and keep up here.

The environment and chosen locale of this fight is important in that if its a place in which Hank can freely use his technopathic control, it gives him a huge advantage. If its a neutral setting, he doesn't get that huge advantage. That is not the same as me stating it dampens his technology, which I clearly didn't state.

I've given plenty of reasons why it would be shortsighted at the very least to assume that Hank instantly hacks Doom. It's assuming that Hank fights Doom here to begin with and has uninterrupted opportunity to do so. Given the combatants in this fight as well as Doom's ability to BFR him or, y'know, fight back, it's ridiculous to assume that Hank is going to fight like how you want simply to suit your arguments here. Not even sure WTF Hulk has to do with this either outside of you wanting to make a random pot shot at his fanbase.

Also, if you can't see the irony in typing "Its DOOM, He's got magickkkkkkkkk" like it means something while in the same breath essentially exclaiming "Its HENSHAW, he's got hackingggggggg", that's pretty sad.

By all means, if you can prove Henshaw will be able to effortlessly hack Doom's armor before Doom retaliates, do so.

Except he doesn't need a technological advantage to hack doom's armor. I wanted to know that why can't hank hack doom's armor IF he fights doom. You have given no reason other than that he wouldn't fight doom or that he wouldn't try that on doom to begin with or doom fights back because he has magic. None of which explains how he defends himself against magic

Which isn't what I'm asking for.

Funny because doom's armor is technological which by his powerset hank can easily subdue unless doom's armor has some feats of resisting tecnopathy. I was citing MAGICKKKK because it has nothing to do that why hank can't hack doom's armor. Its not like he can't fight magic, superman has fought magic plenty of times and hank doesn't have a particular weakness to magic while doom's armor has certainly a pretty big weakness of technopathy.

Sure

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doomsday destroys thanos and void while hank and superman combine forces to bring doom down also can't superman call krypto the superdog with his whistle?

Originally posted by Hulkbuster1
doomsday destroys thanos and void while hank and superman combine forces to bring doom down also can't superman call krypto the superdog with his whistle?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what showings ?

Originally posted by Hulkbuster1
''based on what showings?'' 😆 classic 🤪....🧑‍⚕️

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has superior showings than being crushed by Kal-L and Kal-el in 4 panels to Doomsday. DD also got demolished by random k-nians as well. Now your turn.

Originally posted by Hulkbuster1
....didn't thanos lose to squirrel girl 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't canon and her track record is far more impressive than DD's.

Either THANOS or VOID could solo this... And DOOM would wreck Hank 11/10 this fight is spite.

http://comicsforever.tumblr.com/post/16747313232/dr-doom-vs-the-justice-league-artwork-by-john

Originally posted by Hulkbuster1
I believe it was although through speculation it was revealed to be a clone 🙁 DC ftw 😂 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't recognized as canon for Lord Thanos. You haven't given me a single reason why team 2 wins. Not one.

Originally posted by Hulkbuster1
based on what?

Prime's emo while DD is mindless and can't fly, and Hank can have his limbs ripped apart quite easily.

Originally posted by quanchi112

primes emo? based on what?
Superior combat showings, superior capabilities, superior intelligence, superior durability.

Prime's emo while DD is mindless and can't fly, and Hank can have his limbs ripped apart quite easily.

Originally posted by Hulkbuster1