Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, the same circle logic. I'm not trying to suggest that doom can't affect hank, I'm trying to find out why can't hank hack doom's armor.Except he doesn't need a technological advantage to hack doom's armor. I wanted to know that why can't hank hack doom's armor IF he fights doom. You have given no reason other than that he wouldn't fight doom or that he wouldn't try that on doom to begin with or doom fights back because he has magic. None of which explains how he defends himself against magic
Which isn't what I'm asking for.
Funny because doom's armor is technological which by his powerset hank can easily subdue unless doom's armor has some feats of resisting tecnopathy. I was citing MAGICKKKK because it has nothing to do that why hank can't hack doom's armor. Its not like he can't fight magic, superman has fought magic plenty of times and hank doesn't have a particular weakness to magic while doom's armor has certainly a pretty big weakness of technopathy.
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Well, for one thing, Doomtech completely no sold Extremis' attempt to hack it multiple times, and Extremis had the capability to meld and control all of Earth's tech simultaneously, so yes, Doom's armor does have feats of resisting hostile takeover. Henshaw =/= Iron Man, but the armor in of itself does have feats to show that hacking it is nigh-impossible. Reed Richards' intellect couldn't shut down Doom's armor when he was trapped inside of it and he had the vast resources of the Baxter Building/Freedom Plaza on hand to work with. You'd have to be able to prove that Henshaw could not only hack Doom's armor, but do so before Doom could respond to the attempt. Which is highly unlikely.
Magical energy blasts and the like is one thing, but Henshaw has no defense against actual spells. Being time dumped, being ravaged by legions of the Mindless Ones, Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, etc. Hank has no actual answer for outside of relying on his durability. He hasn't manifested anti-magic tech or displayed an explicit resistance to magical forces. And according to feats, Doom's armor has resisted offensive hacking more than once.
Cool scans, but that proves my earlier point. It was environmental specific and he physically uplinked with Apokolips computer system and he did that outside of combat, not in the midst of it.
Originally posted by Hulkbuster1Prime doesn't have superior power showings. Some even contest he's more powerful an an elite top tier. Thanos is smarter, more powerful, and more durable. Prime would be fetching his coffee.
based on superior power showings, superior fighting and emo just makes prime have unpredictability which is dangerous like michael jackson and kids. ✅
Originally posted by quanchi112prime is almost silver age level minus weakness to magic,kryptonite and is powered w/o needing a sun. Thanos w/o gems or hotu is preatty weak the only other advantage he would have is death curse. ✅
Prime doesn't have superior power showings. Some even contest he's more powerful an an elite top tier. Thanos is smarter, more powerful, and more durable. Prime would be fetching his coffee.
Originally posted by Hulkbuster1So the teen titans beat someone down who is silver age ? Superboy scareed a silver ager ? Whoa.
prime is almost silver age level minus weakness to magic,kryptonite and is powered w/o needing a sun. Thanos w/o gems or hotu is preatty weak the only other advantage he would have is death curse. ✅
Thanos has taken on superior foes such as Odin, Tyrant, Makerm power gem Thor.
Originally posted by quanchi112Almost silver age almost although imo stronger but thats another story. Well pis happen like losing to a squirrel or hulk losing to a snake :/
So the teen titans beat someone down who is silver age ? Superboy scareed a silver ager ? Whoa.Thanos has taken on superior foes such as Odin, Tyrant, Makerm power gem Thor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, for one thing, Doomtech completely no sold Extremis' attempt to hack it multiple times, and Extremis had the capability to meld and control all of Earth's tech simultaneously, so yes, Doom's armor does have feats of resisting hostile takeover. Henshaw =/= Iron Man, but the armor in of itself does have feats to show that hacking it is nigh-impossible. Reed Richards' intellect couldn't shut down Doom's armor when he was trapped inside of it and he had the vast resources of the Baxter Building/Freedom Plaza on hand to work with. You'd have to be able to prove that Henshaw could not only hack Doom's armor, but do so before Doom could respond to the attempt. Which is highly unlikely.Magical energy blasts and the like is one thing, but Henshaw has no defense against actual spells. Being time dumped, being ravaged by legions of the Mindless Ones, Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, etc. Hank has no actual answer for outside of relying on his durability. He hasn't manifested anti-magic tech or displayed an explicit resistance to magical forces. And according to feats, Doom's armor has resisted offensive hacking more than once.
Cool scans, but that proves my earlier point. It was environmental specific and he physically uplinked with Apokolips computer system and he did that outside of combat, not in the midst of it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Now we're talking, scans? Reed not being able to stop doom's armor isn't technopathy though. Speedblitzing, cheap but more likely than doom time dumping hank. Generic magical spells can be blocked by metal in MU, Who did doom bind with bands because its been broken a lot. Eh, not too impressed with mindless ones, hank has oneshotted high heralds like eradicator. Not on level of hank though, but its a start.
He wasn physically uplinked with the technology? I don't see it. How does it matter that it was an enviornment specific feat? Eh, hank has controlled a planet with technopathy twice, more than necessary to hack a suit of armor. We're excluding his feats because it wasn't in between a fight? This isn't a strength contest jake where combat feats are more valuable. Hank can do it while fighting someone like superman like in Trials of superman too.
Iron Man's Extremis armor can not hack nor scan Doom's armor. Given what Extremis is capable of (I'll try and find feats of Tony's hacking capabilities later for a comparison), it's a pretty impressive feat for Doom to completely no sell him. And this is without Doom fighting back and in relatively calm situations. Hank would have to speedblitz Doom and overcome his shields and armor's natural durability before Doom time dumps him or reverses time, which is unlikely. He's used the bands on a variety of people (as has Strange, who Doom has apparently surpassed). Would it permanently stop Henshaw? Probably not, but it's a spell that Hank has no real answer for outside of attempting to break free, giving Doom more time to time dump him or perform another task. Not sure how the Mindless Ones aren't impressive; his Mindless Ones overwhelmed the Mighty Avengers and were practically immune to physical harm, and their assembled roster would be equal to or greater than Hank. More recently, the Mindless Ones were depicted as threats to Dormmammu and Umar (and have consistently been shown to be threats to a single top tier if summoned en mass, which Doom can certainly do here).
According to those scans, Henshaw established a direct physical link with Apokolips computer system. "Once I plug into this computer network, I shall unite with it, bond with it until it is mine to control." His actions and words alike clearly portray that he needed the physical uplinking with said computer network and time, however short, to bend it to his will. It was by no means instantaneous, which is what he'd need to be able to hack Doom's armor, assuming he can. It's environmental specific as he needed to make physical contact with the system in order to establish control with Apokolips. And yes, hacking outside of combat and hacking inside of it are two different things. I'm not saying he can't do it, but one is far more difficult than the other.
Originally posted by quanchi112Your right about one thing I need practice on this qoute button its like i respond and sometimes it post good other times it post above like maybe its the tab on my mobile device :/
I don't excuse any showngs but I also don't bring up out of continuity showings such as Sg either. Learn how to use the quote function.
