Team Mortal Kombat vs Team Tekken

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
There is no way that, Street fighter could overcome the force in the Tekken world. Jin, Street fight embraces chi energy with Ryu, and Sagat. However, Tekken goes into the Supernatural.Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya, Lee, Law, Fox, Bryan
Eddie, Xiaoyo, Hwoarang...Street fighter is outclassed. Mortal kombat however, Would eviscerate both of the franchise's rosters.

No, seriously, that was the single most stupid thing said in this thread...

0% evidence.

0% fact.

And completely ignores comparative power display in favour of using titles that have no meaning... Once again, noob logic = mysticism & godhood must > actual displayed and calced powers that they have never faced directly or comparatively.

Here is a fact for you lot, if being A can generate enough energy to crater a forest with nothing but the RECOIL of a single attack, and not only survive, but be completely unindered, and person B commits suicide with a much smaller scale attack, then person A has a power advantage of at least an order of magnitude over person B, irrespective of wether or not person B is a god or uses mystical magical powers.

Has this been spelled out enough times over the years for you guys or what?

Raiden only killed his mortal form. Raiden occupied a human form to fight with. Once he killed that form his energy reformed on Earth. He didnt actually die there

Plus Raiden was an Elder God which gave him the power to create/destroy whole realms at a time. That is a greater display of power than anyone in the SF universe has ever shown.

Once he stopped being an Elder God there was never anything said about a drop in power so you dont know how much of that power he may have retained.

Ok, before I start, I'm going to say this once... Learn to use the edit button!
Seriously...

Originally posted by juggerman
Raiden only killed his mortal form. Raiden occupied a human form to fight with. Once he killed that form his energy reformed on Earth. He didnt actually die there

and he does this every time we see him? No... That doesn't mean he is unkillable, it means he is a resurrector, and guess what, he spals, and he still loses the match.

Originally posted by juggerman
Plus Raiden was an Elder God which gave him the power to create/destroy whole realms at a time. That is a greater display of power than anyone in the SF universe has ever shown.

No single Elder god has the power to create or destroy realms, that is a figment of your imagination that goes unsupported. the fact that the kamidogu where needed to forge the realms out of the One Being's body supports this fact overwhelmingly, so...

Originally posted by juggerman
Once he stopped being an Elder God there was never anything said about a drop in power so you dont know how much of that power he may have retained.

And neither do you, and the fact that he never demonstrated this fanciful powerup, and got pegged by the same guys that where kicking his arse handidly before this supposed powerup are still doing so post powerup says that your making stuff up.

Enjoy that.

Eh i still feel Akuma has no chance against a god. He isnt even the strongest fighter in SF. The only people stronger than Raiden in MK are other gods

Originally posted by juggerman
Eh i still feel Akuma has no chance against a god. He isnt even the strongest fighter in SF. The only people stronger than Raiden in MK are other gods

What you "feel" is irrelevant.

What matters is what can be proven, and we have already, conclusively proven that Akuma has the strength, speed, stamina and power to turn Raiden and the rest of this team into a fine red mist in a single attack.

And the fact that he is not the strongest Street Fighter should tell you that MK isn't as powerful a verse as you may beleive at first glance.

Really? Onaga sure aint a God, and he handed Raiden his ass without lifing a finger, and Shang Tsung and Quan Chi thoroughly kicked his ass at the end of Deadly Alliance, and they ain't Gods either... I know I'm old, but my memory aint that bad yet.

And as a final point to you, the fact that your relying on a title to try and justify Raiden's strength instead of actually providing evidence is very, very bad when others can pick that point apart peicemenal like I did - I've done it before. The fact is, the traits usually associated with Godhood don't always apply in fiction, for example, Raiden isn't Omnipotent, Omnipresent or any other high end uberpowered at all. Raiden't powers basically ammount to being Unaging, Reincarnation, Electromancy (not even high end at that, as electromancers like Cole outdo him in versatility of electrical powers), Flight, telepotation, and a small amount of matter creation/warping (the ability to forge his staff and hammer out of thin air). His reaction times, physical strength and other vital stats are hardly higher than peak human, as he has no actual feats to go any higher than that.

Onaga had the Kamidogu which amped his power. IF your memory isnt bad bad yet then how did you forget that? And Tsung and Chi arent as powerful as Raiden they just overwhelmed his due to their numbers

Originally posted by juggerman
Onaga had the Kamidogu which amped his power. IF your memory isnt bad bad yet then how did you forget that? And Tsung and Chi arent as powerful as Raiden they just overwhelmed his due to their numbers

Your memory fails you. He didn't have all the Kamidogu yet, as Quan still had the Amulet of Shinnok. Nice try thou.

They KILLED him, which is my point. And neither of them are anywhere near as strong or as fast as Akuma, nor can they generate anywhere near the level of destructive energy (yes, they have sorcery, but in terms of pure destructive capability, Akuma's attacks make Raiden's suicide blast look like a firecracker going off in a toilet.)

Whats a 'god'? :I

Originally posted by BloodRain
Whats a 'god'? :I

I suppose it would be a being capable of wileding a good number or all of these?

He did have the Kamidogu he just needed Quan Chis amulet to challenge/destroy the Elder Gods.

Quan Chi and Shang Tsung are two of the most powerful sorcerers in their world so its not out of the question that they overcame a single god in mortal form

And tho Raiden was a playable character in the MK games canon wise he never participated in the actual tournament until MKDA because no one was powerful enough to defeat him one on one including Kahn

So he's just by his title?

Hestia- goddess of families and Panas- god of sheep say hi lol

They are also superior

A god of sheep is superior to what exactly?

A human shepard i assume

But not superior to anything that isn't called a god. Sheep god wont be beating Superman.

Being a god is just a title, nothing important by itself.

Depends. As "Sheep God" is the title you still have to see what the powers are.

Being a god doesn't automatically mean your invincible. Sentry was beating Thor's ass until he stop allowed Thor to finish him off.

No powers. Just the guy that watches over sheep.

Raiden isnt all knowing or all powerful. He's just some lightning god. He can be called the SuperCaptain of Lightning and it wouldn't change a thing about him.

It does because being a god we never see his true form. He has to take a human form to fight in MK and if that form is killed he would still live on. He can also teleport himself and others anywhere he so chooses.