Kahn was more powerful than Raiden at the beginning of MK9 so there wasnt really anything raiden could do. Yet i will say in his defence there than he was taking punches from a being that could destroy all plains of exsistance. True he was getting owned but the fact that he wasnt instantly obliterated is impressive.
And at the end Raiden was powerless since Kahn merged the two realms and Earth became part of Outworld and Raiden is more or less powerless in Outworld. I wouldnt say the Elder Gods are weak since they came down and destroyed Kahn but they are F***ING STUPID
Originally posted by NemeBro
Even if this is true, which I doubt, this ignores that he still can't take Akuma's soul.Lol. "Can't be killed"? Shao Kahn killed his punk ass with a big ass hammer. He did it in one timeline and nearly did it with another.
And no, you are backwards, Akuma can solo the MK team with one attack, namely this one:
Sub Zero and most MK fighters are only barely above peak human capability in terms of speed and reaction-time, see here:
Notice how slow three of the strongest MK characters are (Well, one of as of 9, Shang and Quanchi are pathetic now) in combat.
I could find the quote that states that Ryu and Ken can dodge bullets and that Guile's Sonic Booms (Which even a relatively sluggish guy like Abel has reacted to) are mach 2, but frankly I don't feel like it.
Lol.
The original Sub Zero wasn't present at the massacre of Scorpion's clan, directly implied by Sub Zero (But... That wasn't me!) to be nother more than a ploy by Quanchi to take Scorpion for his enforcer.
Really though, none of this matters. What matters is that Akuma is demonstratably far more powerful than the entire MK team combined. It is advisable for you to leave games versus, for this is my domain, and here, I am God.
No seriously, get the **** out of my subforum.
why should he be able to take akumas soul? shang tsung never displayed a limit to his soul taking abilities, beside that can you show me akuma being resistant to soul taking? if not then be quiet when the elders are speaking
raiden wasnt killed by shao kahn and even if we take that beating he recieved, shao kahn was empowered by the armageddon which is far more powerful than any street fighter huge eyes character because armageddon could basically destroy the world itself, show me akuma being able to destroy the world
akuma will not solo anyone here, raiden is going to kill him as simple as it is
based on what? just because they dont have blurt stripes behind their punches or their movement like the japanese got doesnt mean whey are slower, its just everybody in mortal kombat has those kind of speeds therefor they can match each other
show me street fighter characters being so fast its beyond the MK charactrs ability to touch them, you are stating some dumb things i have to say, even if lets say some of the street fighter characters are faster it still doesnt mean they cant be touched by MK , all sub zero has to do is freeze his surroundings and he freeze the entire SF team, so now shang tsung can solo, sub zero can solo, and raiden can solo, liu kang can just turn into a huge dragon and eat their head off
it is clear to me you dont even know they MK Storyline, the original sub zero didnt massacre his clan however it was the original sub zero who killed scorpion, and later beat his ass in his own realm
you are being yet another japanese manga fanboy, akuma can solo this fight and frankly anyone here will give him one hell of a fight, raiden will destroy akuma and so would shang tsung
now seriously , get the **** out of my face
Originally posted by red sabre
why should he be able to take akumas soul? shang tsung never displayed a limit to his soul taking abilities, beside that can you show me akuma being resistant to soul taking? if not then be quiet when the elders are speaking
Akuma being resistant to the soul destroying effects of the Shun Goku Satsu every time he uses it, and Soul destroying > mere Soul taking means you point just got torpedoed.
Originally posted by red sabre
raiden wasnt killed by shao kahn and even if we take that beating he recieved, shao kahn was empowered by the armageddon which is far more powerful than any street fighter huge eyes character because armageddon could basically destroy the world itself, show me akuma being able to destroy the world
Your bias is showing.
No, Blaze is not the Armageddon. Blaze was designed to prevent it by empowering either Taven or Daegon's armor.
No character in MK actually has world destroying powers, unless you count realm merging, which is far from a combat ability, so you can stuff that in your pants.
And yes, the MK9 intro has Raiden's brains splattered over the pyramid by Kahns hammer just as he recided that time prayer, you can paint it however you like, but that is what happened.
Originally posted by red sabre
akuma will not solo anyone here, raiden is going to kill him as simple as it is
I demand proof of this wild assertion.
Originally posted by red sabre
based on what? just because they dont have blurt stripes behind their punches or their movement like the japanese got doesnt mean whey are slower, its just everybody in mortal kombat has those kind of speeds therefor they can match each other
right, and another blid assertion without evidence... Your 3 for 3 champ.
Originally posted by red sabre
show me street fighter characters being so fast its beyond the MK charactrs ability to touch them, you are stating some dumb things i have to say, even if lets say some of the street fighter characters are faster it still doesnt mean they cant be touched by MK , all sub zero has to do is freeze his surroundings and he freeze the entire SF team, so now shang tsung can solo, sub zero can solo, and raiden can solo, liu kang can just turn into a huge dragon and eat their head off
Because 2 of the team can teleport, and all of them can generate heat with their ki to the point of immolating. besides, they have trouble with Jax and Strykers SMGs, and the SFers have dodged gunfire by slipping bitween bullets.
4 for 4...
Originally posted by red sabre
it is clear to me you dont even know they MK Storyline, the original sub zero didnt massacre his clan however it was the original sub zero who killed scorpion, and later beat his ass in his own realm
Only to get himself killed by the same Scorpion... Which was the poit he was making, you however keep bringing him up for some reason.
5 for 5.
Originally posted by red sabre
you are being yet another japanese manga fanboy, akuma can solo this fight and frankly anyone here will give him one hell of a fight, raiden will destroy akuma and so would shang tsung
Proof? None of then can outmatch his speed, endurance, strength or energy generation. Akuma's Sekia Kuretsuha demolishes all 5 of them at once with 5 times the energy of Raiden's suicide blast. They have no defence against that.
6 for 6
Originally posted by red sabre
now seriously , get the **** out of my face
You failed 6 out of 6 times with youtr points, leave.
Originally posted by juggerman
Raiden was also weakened when fighting the Deadly Alliance since the fight took place in Outworld
if it were in Outworld, Raiden would have been utterly powerless.
Originally posted by juggerman
He was weakened even farther when Onaga came since he just got his godly sh** pushed in.
As before, in Outworld, Raiden is powerless. Thus it was not outworld, besides, the Dragon Army was found in Edenia wasn't it?
Originally posted by juggerman
At full power Raiden solos EVERYONE Street Fighter has to offer here!
Proof?
Originally posted by juggerman
Except maybe Bison cuz hes f***ing BOSS
Logic just went out the window... Akuma is more powerful than Bison.
Raiden's fight with Tsung and Chi was in Outworld smart gut since in the intro it states that "The Dragon King has indeed returned to Outworld" so please explain to me how they weren' there?
Plus (i may be wrong here just my belief) Raiden doesn't just turn into a normal human in Outworld he retains his fighting ability and electric control. What he actually loses is his GODLY powers i.e. opening portals, talking with the Elder Gods, and just having control of the realm in general.
Kabal is faster in fights than any of the SF guys yet ALL the MK fighters can hold thier own against him and several are WAY above him so i dont think the SF "speed advantage" will help them too much
Just because Akuma can protect his soul from being destroyed doesnt mean it cant be taken. Show be evidence where he stopped someone from stealing his soul. Thats like saying " Hey im such a great boxer that you cant break my nose. And that means you cant shoot it off with a gun either.
Akuma has not once shown that he is more powerful that a full powered Bison. If you bring up Akumas sneak attack kill then youre not as bright as you seem since a sneak attack is usually used by weaker beings.
Originally posted by juggerman
Raiden's fight with Tsung and Chi was in Outworld smart gut since in the intro it states that "The Dragon King has indeed returned to Outworld" so please explain to me how they weren' there?
Bullshit, it says "The former king of Outworld had returned." That means returned from the grave. Nice attempt to dodge burden of proof BTW, it's not up to me to prove a negative.
Originally posted by juggerman
Plus (i may be wrong here just my belief) Raiden doesn't just turn into a normal human in Outworld he retains his fighting ability and electric control. What he actually loses is his GODLY powers i.e. opening portals, talking with the Elder Gods, and just having control of the realm in general.
Without evidence, don't claim it. I see no reason to actually consider this theory of yours.
Originally posted by juggerman
Kabal is faster in fights than any of the SF guys yet ALL the MK fighters can hold thier own against him and several are WAY above him so i dont think the SF "speed advantage" will help them too much
You made another claim without evidence. Kabal's speed is linear as a special move, and is not known to be particularly fast outside of gameplay, whereas Ryu has dodged bullets in a non-linear zigzag pattern, and he is NOT the fastest either.
Originally posted by juggerman
Just because Akuma can protect his soul from being destroyed doesnt mean it cant be taken. Show be evidence where he stopped someone from stealing his soul. Thats like saying " Hey im such a great boxer that you cant break my nose. And that means you cant shoot it off with a gun either.
Your being intentionally ignorant....
The fact that he resists the greater of the two methods means he handles the lesser easily. Your analergy is flawed, because a gun packs more impact force, and over a far lesser area than a fist. In comparison, an attack that obliterates the soul is more powerful and more deadly in every conceivable way than simply moving it from one place to another. Souls are notoriously difficuly to actually completely destroy, but soul manipulation is comparatively easy, do you see the point yet?
Originally posted by juggerman
Akuma has not once shown that he is more powerful that a full powered Bison. If you bring up Akumas sneak attack kill then youre not as bright as you seem since a sneak attack is usually used by weaker beings.
That was not a sneak attack, and the fact that you and every other noob have to be shot down repeatedly over that fact saddens me. Akuma came in with a frontal attack, not from behind, and Bison was uninjured prior to it.
He did this to Bison without transforming as well.
And besides that, Akuma's feats place him above and beyond Bison's class.
Originally posted by juggerman
Akuma is trash. Bison is much better
Yeah, because you say so and for no other reason. GTFO.
I cant Destroy a diamond with my bare hands but i could steal one. Point proven
They were fighting in Outworld no matter how much you try to deny it. Rewatch the MKDA intro and youll see it clearly states that "the Deadly Alliance has returned to OUTWORLD and are using the souls of defeated warriors to resurrect the army" and they are shown to be in the EXACT SAME PLACE THAT RAIDEN FIGHTS THEM IN! Them being in Outworld is noe proven so please stop the madness
Kabals speed is stated in his bio as an ability he posses not just an in game feature as you so ignorantly tried to say. Nice try tho. Point proven once again
And i find it very funny that you think Kabals speed is an in game feature so cant be counted but Jax shooting people should be canon. Talk about being a hypocrite.
And im the noob but your the "smart guy" that thinks a sneak attack only comes from behind. Right. No one could ever be sneak attacked from the front. That is the dumbest thing i think youve said so far. Please stop before you hurt yourself
And finally it is not just my opinion that Akuma isnt more powerful that Bison but it clearly states such in the Manga. Bison and Akuma fight and niether gets the upperhand then Bisons Psycho Drive is destroyed and Akuma (only then) gets the upperhand and destroys Bison. Yes that shows Akuma being vastly superior to Full Powered Bison. And in another Manga Bison is stated to be the MASTER of the killing intent while Akuma is stated (in the same story mind you) to be simply a user of it. Also Ryu defeated Akuma at this point and his next (and ever greater challenge as stated in Manga) was BISON.
Cant wait for your next attempt
Originally posted by juggerman
I cant Destroy a diamond with my bare hands but i could steal one. Point proven.
This is EXACTLY MY POINT kid. Akuma resists soul destruction. WTF is soul movement going to do? You can't budge something with your bare hands that RESISTS nuclear bombs.
Originally posted by juggerman
They were fighting in Outworld no matter how much you try to deny it. Rewatch the MKDA intro and youll see it clearly states that "the Deadly Alliance has returned to OUTWORLD and are using the souls of defeated warriors to resurrect the army" and they are shown to be in the EXACT SAME PLACE THAT RAIDEN FIGHTS THEM IN! Them being in Outworld is noe proven so please stop the madness.
My point was that it doesn't matter where the fight was. What matters is that Raiden's powers were unaffected by the location.
You claimed Raiden was weakened, now you must prove that he was weakened at that point in time. Previous weakness from the movie lore not withstanding, especially considering he was NOT weakened in outworld during MK2, nor during the hostile takeover during MK3.
Originally posted by juggerman
Kabals speed is stated in his bio as an ability he posses not just an in game feature as you so ignorantly tried to say. Nice try tho. Point proven once again.
You have not proven anything, simply because Kabal's speed has never been actually demonstrated, so you don't know how fast he is, nevermind how he compares to beings outside of his universe. Stop trying to palm off stupidity as fact, because unless you can quanitfy a power, you don't know how it stacks.
Originally posted by juggerman
And i find it very funny that you think Kabals speed is an in game feature so cant be counted but Jax shooting people should be canon. Talk about being a hypocrite.
Guns are quantifiable because they exist in the real world and have been calculated. Your ignorance is not my problem.
Originally posted by juggerman
And im the noob but your the "smart guy" that thinks a sneak attack only comes from behind. Right. No one could ever be sneak attacked from the front. That is the dumbest thing i think youve said so far. Please stop before you hurt yourself.
Your an idiot... I covered every angle, I don't need to tell you that it was no blind sneak attack, especially given Bison's energy detection.
I don't particularly give a shit if you think it is a sneak attack or not, because unless you provide proof of your claim, it stands as nothing anyway.
Originally posted by juggerman
And finally it is not just my opinion that Akuma isnt more powerful that Bison but it clearly states such in the Manga. Bison and Akuma fight and niether gets the upperhand then Bisons Psycho Drive is destroyed and Akuma (only then) gets the upperhand and destroys Bison. Yes that shows Akuma being vastly superior to Full Powered Bison. And in another Manga Bison is stated to be the MASTER of the killing intent while Akuma is stated (in the same story mind you) to be simply a user of it. Also Ryu defeated Akuma at this point and his next (and ever greater challenge as stated in Manga) was BISON.
Your relying on manga storyline now?!
You realise that it is non canon, right?
Seriously, your debating with me without the foggiest inclining of actual knowlege and research... Your dissapointing me here jugger, Every point you have raised, I and others have shot down, repeatedly...
I don't need your arrogance in my face, especially if your wrong.
Originally posted by juggerman
Cant wait for your next attempt
Considering you failed hardcore at actually providing any sort of evidence relevant to your grandiose claims...
What his soul can withstand has NOTHING to do with whether it can be moved or not its sad that you cannot grasp this simple concept. Yes he can withstand soul damaging moves but he has NEVER (AND THE ROCK MEANS NEVER!) been show to protect his soul against being stolen. You are now just trying to add to his abilities and its not gonna fly Jack. That would be like me saying (hey Thor can regenerate from ANYTHING because he healed from a cut on the arm). One ability does not equal the other and it upsetting that you cant get that.
It has been stated that Raiden is depowered in Outworld so the fact that he was in Outworld means he was was depowered. Dont try to back peddle now that your point is moot
First Kabal had no speed now he has speed but slow speed? The people behind you better look out cuz youre moving backward pretty fast now
Jax shooting a gun is an in game move the end. The combat moves dont always reflect the fighters true ability for fairness reasons. I can play any Dragonball Z game and beat a Super Saiyan 4 with Krillin. So now by your logic Krillin is stronger than a Super Saiyan 4 right? Gimme a break kid. So to prove Bison is stronger than Akuma i should just beat Akuma with Bison. How about i beat Akuma with Dan? Dan just powered up!! WOW!! And doesnt Rolento use grenades? So Ryu and Ken can dodge bullets but cant dodge a grenade that sits on the ground for a few seconds before it explodes? Some speed. But since it happens in the gameplay its canon! Just go away quietly young man and tend to your hurt butt
Your right the Mangas cant always be considered canon but the games can? Really? The SF story in the games have changed SEVERAL times so reel it in. I honestly dont know if the stories im refering to are canon or not and i can admit that but atleast im going off of something other than "oh im gay for Akuma and by that and that alone i say hes the strongest! Also he is so powerful he can kill people who arent expecting it! Now thats strong"
You can pick your dignity up at the door on your way out
Originally posted by juggerman
What his soul can withstand has NOTHING to do with whether it can be moved or not its sad that you cannot grasp this simple concept. Yes he can withstand soul damaging moves but he has NEVER (AND THE ROCK MEANS NEVER!) been show to protect his soul against being stolen. You are now just trying to add to his abilities and its not gonna fly Jack. That would be like me saying (hey Thor can regenerate from ANYTHING because he healed from a cut on the arm). One ability does not equal the other and it upsetting that you cant get that.
Once again, moving a soul is nowhere near the complexity of destroying it. If Akuma can resist having his soul destroyed entirely, what makes you think a lesser soul manipulative technique employed by Tsung will even do anything? Remeber, you made the claim, you must prove it.
Added to that, any lethal soul manip Tsung has ever employed requires the foe to be on the verge of death anyway, and he is not going to be able to hurt Akuma in any meaningful way before he is reduced to a red mist from a single physical blow from Akuma.
Originally posted by juggerman
It has been stated that Raiden is depowered in Outworld so the fact that he was in Outworld means he was was depowered. Dont try to back peddle now that your point is moot
The point I was making is that he wasn't depowered you raving lunatic... Where was it stated he was ever depowered in Outworld? The movies? Please man, your going to have to do much better than that.
Originally posted by juggerman
First Kabal had no speed now he has speed but slow speed? The people behind you better look out cuz youre moving backward pretty fast now
I never said he has no speed you retard reject! I said that for any speed he may posess, he has never used it in any canon scene ever, it is nigh unquantifiable. You REALLY need to learn the difference bitween gameplay elements and demonstrated feats bro.
Originally posted by juggerman
Jax shooting a gun is an in game move the end. The combat moves dont always reflect the fighters true ability for fairness reasons. I can play any Dragonball Z game and beat a Super Saiyan 4 with Krillin. So now by your logic Krillin is stronger than a Super Saiyan 4 right? Gimme a break kid.
So, Kabal moving fast is not a gameplay feature according to you, and is admissable because it suits you, yet Jax or Stryker firing an SMG is gameplay mechanics, despite them both being trained in the use of firearms, and firearms are actually quantifiabe? You REALLY lack at this common sense thing...
Your analergy again relies on gameplay mechanics and player skill, I could turn this around and point out that characters, in Armageddon cutscenes where hit with things like arrows and thrown knives. Now that is NOT a gameplay feature because it happened in a cutscene, and is therefore irrefutable. Do you understand the difference yet?
Originally posted by juggerman
So to prove Bison is stronger than Akuma i should just beat Akuma with Bison. How about i beat Akuma with Dan? Dan just powered up!! WOW!! And doesnt Rolento use grenades? So Ryu and Ken can dodge bullets but cant dodge a grenade that sits on the ground for a few seconds before it explodes? Some speed. But since it happens in the gameplay its canon! Just go away quietly young man and tend to your hurt butt
You've confused yourself here kid, I'm the one using cutscenes here, your not. You've used gameplay features to try and ek out a point, and when you got called on it, you try and blame me for it. guess what kid...
Originally posted by juggerman
Your right the Mangas cant always be considered canon but the games can? Really? The SF story in the games have changed SEVERAL times so reel it in. I honestly dont know if the stories im refering to are canon or not and i can admit that but atleast im going off of something other than "oh im gay for Akuma and by that and that alone i say hes the strongest! Also he is so powerful he can kill people who arent expecting it! Now thats strong"
Your being entirely irrational here. The ingame stories are the most up-to-date. The only one that has been retconned repeatedly is SF2, and since I own the latest one, I know I'm right. The in-game story and official statements are the highest cannon. i'm sorry that it gives you a lower intestinal plasma reaction so bad, but really, I don't give a sh!t.
Oh, and you can stick your accusation straight up your own @$$, since I've effectively proven my case, I need not worry about what a noob tantrum your having.
Originally posted by juggerman
You can pick your dignity up at the door on your way out
You never had any when you walked in, so please, don't let the door hit ya where the mod should have bit ya.
WOW you just wont quit with the fanboyism will you? Ok this will be my last attempt to get this thru your thick skull. Destroying something and stealing something are different. Do you know what different means? Adamantium is unbreakable yet that didnt stop Magneto from ripping it out of Wolverine did it? Just show me ONCE where Akuma has protected his soul from being stolen. ONCE. ONE TIME THATS IT. Nothing? Didnt think so. You ASSuming he can means ABSOLUTLY NOTHING here. If you have no proof he cant do it the end. Until you provide some evidence were done here.
Increase your MK knowlege before you step to me son. In Raidens bio it states in Outworld he is depowered. Just cuz he doesnt look it to you doesnt make it any less true so just hang it up scrub
Kabal has super speed that was the only point i tried to make with him and you furiously tried to prove me wrong (and failed i might add) and now your trying to change up what you said and thatjust shows how uneducated on this matter just stop before you get seriously injured my thinking too hard
I know Jax and Stryker have firearms but you tried to say since the MK squad cant simply dodge the bullets like your love bunny Akuma can then they arent as fast with is why i brought up the gameplay there with proved you wrong again. Backpeddle much?
And not once did you prove Akuma was stronger than Bison so you fail once again. Im seriously tried of you complete and utter nonsense. If your donr done just being a fanboy and want to provide some facts here i welcome it. Until then tend to your bleeding anus
You've been reported for trolling and flaming. Can the insults noobie or you may end up being evicted.
Originally posted by juggerman
WOW you just wont quit with the fanboyism will you? Ok this will be my last attempt to get this thru your thick skull. Destroying something and stealing something are different. Do you know what different means? Adamantium is unbreakable yet that didnt stop Magneto from ripping it out of Wolverine did it? Just show me ONCE where Akuma has protected his soul from being stolen. ONCE. ONE TIME THATS IT. Nothing? Didnt think so. You ASSuming he can means ABSOLUTLY NOTHING here. If you have no proof he cant do it the end. Until you provide some evidence were done here.
You simply do not fathom what is being told to you, do you?
The Shun Goku Satsu transports ones soul to the void where it is destroyed while the body is physically ripped into by the Satsui No Hadou.
I need no other evidence than this to completely dispel the pure rectal vapour you are blurting out here.
Now, as I said, the onus was never on me to disprove your claim, but for you to prove it. If you cannot do this, then do not debate here.
Originally posted by juggerman
Increase your MK knowlege before you step to me son. In Raidens bio it states in Outworld he is depowered. Just cuz he doesnt look it to you doesnt make it any less true so just hang it up scrub
Your evidence please. What Bio are you reading? Post it here.
Originally posted by juggerman
Kabal has super speed that was the only point i tried to make with him and you furiously tried to prove me wrong (and failed i might add) and now your trying to change up what you said and thatjust shows how uneducated on this matter just stop before you get seriously injured my thinking too hard
No, I said he has no quantifiable speed feats to compare, and that was in retaliation to you saying he can speedblitz the SFer cast, which you never backed up at all.
Reading comprehension, learn it.
Originally posted by juggerman
I know Jax and Stryker have firearms but you tried to say since the MK squad cant simply dodge the bullets like your love bunny Akuma can then they arent as fast with is why i brought up the gameplay there with proved you wrong again. Backpeddle much?
You never proved anything you horrid liar. They never dodged anything remotely as fast, and you bringing up gameplay was nothing more than a horridly inept attempt to deflect burden of proof off yourself, which is the 3rd time. I'll take this as a concession accepted, since you have no relevant facts or evidence to present.
Originally posted by juggerman
And not once did you prove Akuma was stronger than Bison so you fail once again. Im seriously tried of you complete and utter nonsense. If your donr done just being a fanboy and want to provide some facts here i welcome it. Until then tend to your bleeding anus
You seriously need your eyes checked...
I cannot seriously beleive I have to post these goddamn things again because people are too lazy to do research... Goddamn noob trolls.
YouTube video
Akuma sinking an island with one blow.
YouTube video
At 03:48 Akuma's 2nd Impact Ending, he splits Uluru in half.
YouTube video
Akuma leaping from pacific ocean floor to ocean surface, while cutting a ship apart with a kick.
YouTube video
Akuma decimating and cratering a forest with nothing but the recoil from this attack.
As for win/loss records...
He was beaten once by Gouken when he was younger. And he was beaten while testing Ryu IE he was holding well back to see what Ryu could do.
His wins are
Gouken (he came back and defeated his brother, rendering Gouken unconscious for years)
Bison (Killed him with the SGS, and Bison a year or two later revived by using another clone body)
Defeated but spared Gen
Defeated and killed Gill (Whom later resurrected)
Drew even with Oro, both where holding back
You see this here? Gouki has wins against characters that would WASTE Bison. And he has the feats to utterly dominate him in both physical strength, speed and energy generation. Bison creates a crater by powering up, but Gouki sinks ISLANDS and slashes mountains with physical blows... Bison is outranked here, and so is the MKers.
Jugger, if you come in here and troll and scream and whinge at me again, then you are not worth speaking to, and I'll declare a concession accepted on all points and have the thread closed on request.
Im not saying that Akuma isnt VERY impressive considering his feats. I just dont think he would be immune to the soul steal considering ive seen no evidence that he couls resist it at all.
And i just realised i didnt retort to a comment Zero's. While it is very true that Shang has not been shown to use his soul steal until he has beaten his opponent ive never seen anything to say he is limited to doing it only that way. In fact it was stated in MK that Raiden in fact was protecting the souls of the Earthrealm warriors from being stolen which leads me to believe Shang could have taken them without Raiden's protection. Also im inclined to believe that since MK had to be a tournament that had he simply taken their souls from jump Outworld would have been disqualified since that would be against the rules and we all know that Shang feared Kahn's wrath enough to follow the rules