The Living Tribunal vs...

Originally posted by Endless Mike
CBG got an interview with the guy who wrote that and he said he wasn't talking about the writers

this should be all she wrote concerning the Presence =)

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Comic Book Guy from the Naruto Forums?

If what Mike Carey told him was true, then Dream/The Endless > The Presence?

From what I understand in that interview, The Presence is shaped by the 'dreams' of the people who believe in him.
Hence, he is shaped by Dream of The Endless?

Presence claims to be infinite and eternal.

Both Infinity and Eternity are subordinates to the LT

Warlock with IG had to disband the gems, he couldn't do anything to LT so there goes the infinite argument. Infinity must act on necessity

Eternity must also act on necessity, and Eternity is waaay up there in terms of significance. However the vulnerability comes from its ties to all the beings it's linked to. Eternity accounts for the collective consciousness of all living things -- and from what I'm reading, i can agree with the whole thing about being a target by extra-dimensional attackers.

So Eternity comes from the collective consciousness of living things. Presence is shaped by the 'dreams' (an aspect, or...phase of consciousness) of people that believe in it. Do they, or do they not, go hand in hand?

worst case scenario...Presence is nothing more than an Abstract entity? hmmm....

not saying Presence isn't a worthy part of an efficient team, but it's looking more and more like Presence doesn't do it by himself, like i've been saying this whole entire time.

this is in no way disregarding any other arguments, merely adding to them.

If you don't think I can use this as a valid comparison, go define Eternity and Infinity because that's what Presence claims to be. Then look at Eternity and Infinitys BIO, and see if they're not similar enough...I for one do not think writers stray that far away from the actual definition even though these are fictional stories. Bad writing may get in the way here and there, which confuses people more times than not, but when you look through the BS you can see the light

Does anyone else feel like Jynocidus is recruiting for a cult?

The presence, GEB, The Light, Michael+Lucifer all stomp the LT

Originally posted by iceman24567
The presence, GEB, The Light, Michael+Lucifer all stomp the LT

you have yet to prove such nonsense.

I don't know how you are comparing infinity between Marvel and Dc when Marvel likes to go on about levels of infinity.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
you have yet to prove such nonsense.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I don't know how you are comparing infinity between Marvel and Dc when Marvel likes to go on about levels of infinity.

Infinity is an abstract concept, just like..."God."

I can see how there'd be levels of infinity. We can think endlessly until we die, so that's infinite thinking.

If you can do everything there is to do inside of the physical realm, that's infinite possibility inside of said containment.

If you can do anything inside of the spiritual realm, that's...infinite possibility.

The higher you go, you would eventually gain infinite possibility in any realm. Good thing for a term called "continuity" to keep all the characters from each company separated, infinity stops for any being inside of a continuity at that boundary.

For the LT, necessity dictates those continuities with those boundaries. Necessity (part of the triad) exists in all realms

Originally posted by iceman24567
In a KMC forum battle they are superior to LT it's simple really. The LT is vastly outgunned by infinity

by infinity?! over the presence?!

or would you rather have Presence take the face of Infinity so it looks like DC wins

Originally posted by Jynocidus

So Eternity comes from the collective consciousness of living things. Presence is shaped by the 'dreams' (an aspect, or...phase of consciousness) of people that believe in it. Do they, or do they not, go hand in hand?

worst case scenario...Presence is nothing more than an Abstract entity? hmmm....

The fact that the source of the claim came from Naruto Forums of all places adds to its insignificance.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
Infinity is an abstract concept, just like..."God."

I can see how there'd be levels of infinity. We can think endlessly until we die, so that's infinite thinking.

If you can do everything there is to do inside of the physical realm, that's infinite possibility inside of said containment.

If you can do anything inside of the spiritual realm, that's...infinite possibility.

The higher you go, you would eventually gain infinite possibility in any realm. Good thing for a term called "continuity" to keep all the characters from each company separated, infinity stops for any being inside of a continuity at that boundary.

For the LT, necessity dictates those continuities with those boundaries. Necessity (part of the triad) exists in all realms

Originally posted by Blight
Does anyone else feel like Jynocidus is recruiting for a cult?

Originally posted by iceman24567
The Lt doesn't have the power to judge the Presence, Geb, Light ect in a forum battle they easily crush him and he's gone forever

prove it.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
by infinity?! over the presence?!

or would you rather have Presence take the face of Infinity so it looks like DC wins

Originally posted by Jynocidus
prove it.

Presence, Light, I thought you all said they were the same thing? Make up your minds, please.

Presence claimed to be infinite. A person with the power of infinity couldn't do anything to LT. If Presence is Infinite, it is as Infinite as the gauntlet in its entirety.

since people wanna bring up DC vs Marvel, one time when that happened the gauntlet didn't work outside of its universe so why would Presence being infinite work against LT? I mean, i at least gave the benefit of the doubt, but i'll switch it up to see what statements come from that

Originally posted by iceman24567
Don't have to the rules are the rules in a neutral setting LT gets one shot by the Presence hell even WF Mxy obliterates the Lt with a thought

i'm not going through my whole phase of re-defining omnipotence for those who fail to comprehend.

Just know that Presence is not omnipotent, and LT doesn't yield to mere fanboyish fantasies in this thread.

If you're going to enforce rules, which ones am I breaking? I'm sure this thread would have been closed a long time ago.

we've already come to the conclusion that Presence is not omnipotent. people have already lost faith, and started naming others like The Brothers and Mandrakk

all omnipotents have been eliminated from this thread

Originally posted by Jynocidus
i'm not going through my whole phase of re-defining omnipotence for those who fail to comprehend.

Just know that Presence is not omnipotent, and LT doesn't yield to mere fanboyish fantasies in this thread.

If you're going to enforce rules, which ones am I breaking? I'm sure this thread would have been closed a long time ago.

we've already come to the conclusion that Presence is not omnipotent. people have already lost faith, and started naming others like The Brothers and Mandrakk

all omnipotents have been eliminated from this thread

so using the rules to enforce "lolhezgod" argument

so which one of them gets to be supreme? MoM? Ellaine? Presence?

just how many supremes are there?

what happens when a supreme being fights a supreme being? this is a vs thread, and one of them has to win

here's a question for you, iceman...

what is the necessity that Marvel and DC be separated? Presence is supreme in DC, right? but it can't leak into Marvel because of that boundary of necessity? is that not 1/3 of LT....containing DC's supreme being?

what is separating Image, from DC, from Marvel? Is that not 1/3 of LT's embodiment pretty much accounting for the necessity that all fictional continuities be separated?

LT stomps SO hard