Movie Hulk(Avengers) vs Movie Thor

Originally posted by janus77
"Thor's lightning" wasn't even his own power, he +summoned+ the lightning.

Irrelevant distinction. Thor can summon lightning at will, and channel it through Mjolnir.

Originally posted by janus77
And regardless of that, Hulk's one-punch take down of the alien carrier ship was the most impressive single demonstration of power (rather than merely frying circuitry...)

Untrue.

I already sent you a link to the movie, I can't watch it for you too. Thor didn't merely fry the circuitry. His lightning was straight up tearing through the aliens.

I'm not sure why you have to constantly bullshit when it comes to the Hulk. It's borderline lying and completely unnecessary. Were you not satisfied with what the Avengers already gave the Hulk?

Originally posted by janus77
"Thor's lightning" wasn't even his own power, he +summoned+ the lightning.

And regardless of that, Hulk's one-punch take down of the alien carrier ship was the most impressive single demonstration of power (rather than merely frying circuitry...).

Originally posted by The Sorrow
When?

Right after Rogers tells Hulk to smash.

It's the largest demonstration of power and wide spread destruction in the movie.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Irrelevant distinction. Thor can summon lightning at will, and channel it through Mjolnir.

Untrue.

I already sent you a link to the movie, I can't watch it for you too. Thor didn't merely fry the circuitry. His lightning was straight up tearing through the aliens.

I'm not sure why you have to constantly bullshit when it comes to the Hulk. It's borderline lying and completely unnecessary. Were you not satisfied with what the Avengers already gave the Hulk?

Plus, the ship that the Hulk punched was also hit by a missile from Iron-man.

Iron Man didn't have the power to damage a Leviathan. That was basically all Hulk.

That being said, Hulk seemed to have hit the Leviathan at a critical spot or something based on the other scenes of the movie. For example, he was wrestling with one in mid-air, punching it at the side of the head and it wasn't going down.

Later on in the movie, he stabbed a piece of metal into a Leviathan's back, and it took Thor slamming it with a massive Mjolnir blow to kill it.

I guess they tried to make that scene an "oh shit" moment because it was Banner coming to terms with the Hulk to an extent. I gotta admit, it was f*cking awesome, I loved it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Iron Man didn't have the power to damage a Leviathan. That was basically all Hulk.

That being said, Hulk seemed to have hit the Leviathan at a critical spot or something based on the other scenes of the movie. For example, he was wrestling with one in mid-air, punching it at the side of the head and it wasn't going down.

Later on in the movie, he stabbed a piece of metal into a Leviathan's back, and it took Thor slamming with a massive charged blow to kill it.

IIRC, the missile was actually shown as damaging it though...it was Iron-man lasers that were stated to be unable to get past the armor.

Pretty sure all the missile did was damage the building and get the Leviathan's attention. The thing itself wasn't damaged, Iron Man was clearly stated not to have the power necessary to damage it's external armor.

I'm talking about the missile Iron-man fired into the Leviathan right after the Hulk punched it.

Oh that scene? Yea, the missile he fired destroyed some of the Leviathan's body protecting Captain America and co. from the fall. But, I'm pretty sure that was the monster's underside and I distinctively remember armor falling off the monster or whatever exposing flesh.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Right after Rogers tells Hulk to smash.

It's the largest demonstration of power and wide spread destruction in the movie.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He took down those huge leviathan things, Hulk one shotted one himself. One punching and out right destroying one is a more impressive display of power than frying them with lightning imo. It even looked like Thor was amping his lightning off the building.

Hulk one shotted one, Thor one-shotted 2-3 along with a ton of the little fighters at the same time.

The same Giant creatures Iron Man couldn't break through.

And I don't think Thor amped off the building. It looked more like a side effect of him standing on the building while he powered up.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He took down those huge leviathan things, Hulk one shotted one himself. One punching and out right destroying one is a more impressive display of power than frying them with lightning imo. It even looked like Thor was amping his lightning off the building.

I'm not sure how you think that could be the case. Thor was tearing those things to pieces and who knows how many of those hovercrafts.

That was definitely the most impressive showing of strength but not of power. I could see a case being made if Hulk went around one shotting the things but as we saw, that was clearly not the case. The scale of the destruction is just something Hulk is not capable of however.

Amping? The only way I could see it being an amp, is if he used it as some kind of large lightning rod but that really doesn't make sense as the lightning was directly channeled into Mjolnir and Thor.

The building was lit up, but IIRC that was because it flowed through Thor and fried the top of the building.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh that scene? Yea, the missile he fired destroyed some of the Leviathan's body protecting Captain America and co. from the fall. But, I'm pretty sure that was the monster's underside and I distinctively remember armor falling off the monster or whatever exposing flesh.

Don't remember the armor falling off, but it's possible.

Still, it means that the Leviathan didn't get beaten by just a punch.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Don't remember the armor falling off, but it's possible.

Still, it means that the Leviathan didn't get beaten by just a punch.

I don't think anything Iron Man did or did not do would have changed the outcome of what happened in that scene.

thor's lightning isn't practical...as in the movie he had to hold his hammmer towards the sky and charge it for a bit

no way hulk just stands there and watches goldilocks do his thing

also, I would agree that the lightning was the most powerful AOE attack in the movie...but it has little relevance in a fight against a small being as hulk

Originally posted by Silent Master
Don't remember the armor falling off, but it's possible.

Still, it means that the Leviathan didn't get beaten by just a punch.

mhmm

That's actually a good point. I didn't think of that. Hulk stopped it in it's tracks but maybe it was Iron Man's attack that kept it down.

Whether true or not, that explanation would definitely fit better with the rest of the movie.

Originally posted by Starscream M
thor's lightning isn't practical...as in the movie he had to hold his hammmer towards the sky and charge it for a bit

no way hulk just stands there and watches goldilocks do his thing

also, I would agree that the lightning was the most powerful AOE attack in the movie...but it has little relevance in a fight against a small being as hulk

Or fly in the air summoning a massive tornado.

Plus we saw in the film Thor is quicker than Hulk when in their HTH fight Thor was able to dodge and land more blows then Hulk.

Originally posted by Starscream M
thor's lightning isn't practical...as in the movie he had to hold his hammmer towards the sky and charge it for a bit

no way hulk just stands there and watches goldilocks do his thing

also, I would agree that the lightning was the most powerful AOE attack in the movie...but it has little relevance in a fight against a small being as hulk

If Thor does go all wrathful god on Hulk instead of going hand to hand, he's more than capable of buying himself the few seconds needed to charge up.

His ability to fly alone is sufficient.

That being said, I don't think Thor needs to go that far, it's probably overkill. Matching the power of that alien barrage is enough to give him a forum constituted win.

Originally posted by Newjak
Seriously dude?

Hulk one shotted one, Thor one-shotted 2-3 along with a ton of the little fighters at the same time.

The same creatures Iron Man couldn't break through.

And I don't think Thor amped off the building. It looked more like a side effect of him standing on the building while he powered up.

It looked as though he used it as a conductor and amped his lightning, it showed a close up of the building and his lightning flowing through the tower and then he channeled it through himself. Makes sense iirc his lightning was never that destructive even in his own film and why cling to the building when he could have just as easily used his flight.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
mhmm

That's actually a good point. I didn't think of that. Hulk stopped it in it's tracks but maybe it was Iron Man's attack that kept it down.

Whether true or not, that explanation would definitely fit better with the rest of the movie.

The later stages was just Hulk not being to get that same leverage.

At least more logical than one Iron Man missile being what finished it off.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He literally beat it in one punch and stopped it dead in it's tracks, Iron Man couldn't even dent one when he punched it.

It looked as though he used it as a conductor and amped his lightning, it showed a close up of the building and his lightning flowing through the tower and then he channeled it through himself. Makes sense iirc his lightning was never that destructive even in his own film and why cling to the building when he could have just as easily used his flight.

Thor's attack not only did that but was forcing 2-3 of the creature's back. It was like everyone of the lightning bolts was doing singularly doing equal or greater than what one full powered Hulk Haymaker managed.

It doesn't make sense considering Thor basically nuked the Frost Giant's landscape in his own movie rather easily.

What does make sense is that Thor was just bracing on the building while he summoned very powerful attacks for a continuous volley against the creatures.