Movie Hulk(Avengers) vs Movie Thor

Originally posted by The Sorrow
What do you think would be harder to do, destroy one with your fist or blasting with energy from a distance? As shown Iron Man couldn't scratch one with his fists. Thor's was a sustained barrage of lightning that was damaging them which is totally different from one shotting one with a punch.

IIRC the Frost Giants realm was already badly damaged and isn't something Hulk couldn't have done himself with a well placed ground pound.

Thor called the lightning down into himself, sent it through the building and then channeled it back through himself. At least that's how it appeared. Since when has Thor needed to brace himself to a structure to channel his power? His own super strength should be enough.

Hulk's punch stopped in dead in it's tracks. Thor's attacks managed to beat them in push them backwards.

When deciding which attack is more powerful and contained the more force which is more impressive. One shotting one, or one shotting 2-3 along with others while driving them backwards?

The Frost Giants realm was stable enough to support a race of large beings and their cities. So stop trying to make it sound like a light breeze was going to cause it to crumble.

To me it looked like Thor was summoning a very powerful attack and residual energy of it was going into the building.

Originally posted by Starscream M
i dont think they could've spelled it anymore clearly as they specifically showed the electricity going up and down the building

It really could, because a shot of Mjolnir drawing energy from the building would have made your point clear. Not it summoning the lightning, and then being redirected by the hammer in one large motion.

And the way you tell it, the building contributed to 90% of the power when we see the large bolt channeled directly through the hammer.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It really could, because a shot of Mjolnir drawing energy from the building would have made your point clear. Not it summoning the lightning, and then being redirected by the hammer in one large motion.

And the way you tell it, the building contributed to 90% of the power when we see the large bolt channeled directly through the hammer.

the building stored the power which then channeled through thor (as he was holding onto the building) into mjolnir and directly out against the alien force

im pretty sure without the building, thor's lighting would not be as powerful

Originally posted by Starscream M
first thor I believe is around 800 - 900 lbs

second, a CL100 is harder to knock off despite their weight, at least thats how its portrayed in comics

There isn't anything in the movies stating Thor weighs more than a normal human being.

Plus we already saw earlier in the film how Thor handles a punch from Hulk. He might get knocked back but it wasn't Earth shattering to him. He was back up and fighting no problem.

Thor was able to do the same to Hulk at some points.

Look Starscream, I agree it was funny as hell to see on screen.

I agree Hulk is physically stronger than Thor. But I would say Thor is still the most powerful person on the team.

Originally posted by Newjak
. But I would say Thor is still the most powerful person on the team.

thor would be most powerful if I were fighting an army...as his AOE attack is far more efficient

but hulk is most powerful if the enemy is a singular being

so in this fight of hulk vs thor, it utilizes hulks strength moreso than thors

Originally posted by Starscream M
I would dispute that to a degree

thor would be most powerful if I were fighting an army...as his AOE attack is far more efficient

but hulk is most powerful if the enemy is a singular being

so in this fight of hulk vs thor, it utilizes hulks strength moreso than thors

I do think Hulk was portrayed as the strongest and probably most durable out of the group which makes him a really good tank.

That doesn't mean he was the most powerful of the group.

Did some of those bullets hit Loki in the face? I couldn't tell.

Originally posted by Newjak
I think Thor's attack would produce at least the same amount of force the alien barrage on Hulk did which seemed to mess him up really good.

also, hulk wasn't messed up at all...he just got pissed

in fact he saved Iron Man as IM fell right in the next scene...so not sure where you got the fact that hulk was messed up

Originally posted by Starscream M
I doubt it....there was 15 aliens concentrating their fire on hulk....I've never seen thor creating 15 lightning arcs on one single target

also, hulk wasn't messed up at all...he just got pissed

in fact he saved Iron Man as IM fell right in the next scene...so not sure where you got the fact that hulk was messed up

He was bleeding and busted up and got halted. He wasn't able to save Iron Man until he had time to recover and the Aliens all got shut down.

Originally posted by janus77
"Thor's lightning" wasn't even his own power, he +summoned+ the lightning.

And regardless of that, Hulk's one-punch take down of the alien carrier ship was the most impressive single demonstration of power (rather than merely frying circuitry...).

Thor took down two of those creature carriers at once with his lightning, at the portal's opening. His ability to summon the lighting & storm is an ability he has even without mjolnir. It just sharpens his aim.

I see what you all are talking about. It does appear as if Thor channeled the lightning through the building. I don't even know why this is still going on when the writer made it pretty clear Hulk was the most powerful on the team. The ending battle did a complete 360 when Hulk showed up.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Did some of those bullets hit Loki in the face? I couldn't tell.

Idk if it hit him in the face but I think it was apparent bullets do jackshit against him. Also He did take a exploding arrow like a couple of inches from his face (then the ship he was on exploded around him and he just kinda brushed himself off).

Originally posted by Newjak
You assume Thor's single lighting is only worth one blast from the Aliens. I think that is false.

He was bleeding and busted up and got halted. He wasn't able to save Iron Man until he had time to recover and the Aliens all got shut down.

He must wasn't that damage because he looked 100% after saving Ironman which was too far off from the time the alien shops was shooting him.

Even if we accept that the building doubled the lightning's power, The feat still shows Thor is most powerful, as the attack did more than twice the damage.

However, I believe Thor was using the building to get a good view of the enemies and that the building just soaked up the excess energy.

Originally posted by Starscream M
also, no one here has mentioned the scene where hulk hilariously one-shots thor...essentially bfrs him as thor doesn't return

It was a sucker punch, but it was a funny one. Just goes to show that even though they are teammates, Hulk considers their power rivalry to be ongoing, in a humourous way. Maybe Thor even laughed when he pulled himself up, recognizing the playfulness of it all in the middle of this huge battle. He gets that kind of comradeship, where he's from.

And it did make for a parallel moment from earlier, when Thor suddenly swats Tony away while Cap is trying to make peace with them in the forest. Tony finally got shut up for a minute. 😄

Originally posted by roughrider

And it did make for a parallel moment from earlier, when Thor suddenly swats Tony away while Cap is trying to make peace with them in the forest. Tony finally got shut up for a minute. 😄

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Did some of those bullets hit Loki in the face? I couldn't tell.

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I'm still laughing at bringing up the lightning attack displayed against the alien ships as something that Thor would be able to summon under normal circumstances (ie. him not positioning himself on top of a building's peak, which was specifically shown to be charged by the lightning, after Thor took seconds to summon it all), much less mid-fight against an opponent that specifically attacks him continuously. Anybody thinking that the blatant location choice and specifical building charge had nothing to do with the potency of the attack is retarded - and for a movie that bathes in simplicity, that's quite the achievement.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Even if we accept that the building doubled the lightning's power, The feat still shows Thor is most powerful, as the attack did more than twice the damage.

However, I believe Thor was using the building to get a good view of the enemies and that the building just soaked up the excess energy.

It doesnt show that he is the most powerful, it shows that he is the most versatile. Hulk one shotted one without even being in a full rage with his fist and ripped through Loki.

Why would he even land on the building when he could have stayed in flight and pulled the same ft (if it was within his ability to do so)?

Originally posted by Starscream M
mjolnir channels the power...the power comes from the sky

the building stored the power which then channeled through thor (as he was holding onto the building) into mjolnir and directly out against the alien force

im pretty sure without the building, thor's lighting would not be as powerful

Yes, and like I said, Thor redirected the large bolt of lightning in one big motion. At the very least, Mjolnir was the main conductor and the majority of the damage he did would have been possible even if the building amplified his attack: The lightning came from the sky, through the hammer and into the aliens. There was however excessive energy that traveled into the building and was there for the remainder of the scene.

If the building contributed by allowing Thor to store energy, I think it'd be going too far to argue it made it much more powerful like you said.

I wonder how much a charged Mjolnir hit would affect the Hulk.

btw, the movie dispelled another common misnotion perpetrated by kmc's thorcorps....that thor can fly without mjolnir

the movie clearly shows that mjolnir is thor's only mode of flight