Movie Hulk(Avengers) vs Movie Thor

Started by Nibedicus61 pages

I think both sides of the argument have good points. It's just crazy how people seem to take extreme, almost unreasonably biased interpretations just to make one side look good and the other side look bad. It's just crazy. Lol.

Btw, Avenger movie was the PWNAJJ!

My take:

Hulk was stronger than Thor.
Thor can stand toe-to-toe physically with the Hulk.
Thor was pretty durable in the movie, he took crazy hits and just shrugged em off like nothing.
Thor held back in the Helicarrier, by how much isn't known but it was clearly shown via the script.
Thor's attack that pushed back 3 giant alien snake carrier thingies seemed to have been assisted via the building he was on.
Tony saying "we have a Hulk" was more for a witty retort than any indication of power (IMO), tho it can be interpretted as such.
Hulk and Thor were the powerhouses in the movie, but Hulk was given the "sheer power" role more than Thor was.
I think Hulk would beat down Thor if they continued fighting in the Helicarrier.
In an open field, tho, Thor would just blow Hulk away via anti-Destroyer Hurricane.

I don't think using the building was so much for a power amp as it was a radius thing. He could hit more people using the building as a lightning rod, then pointing and clicking with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I think both sides of the argument have good points. It's just crazy how people seem to take extreme, almost unreasonably biased interpretations just to make one side look good and the other side look bad. It's just crazy. Lol.

Btw, Avenger movie was the PWNAJJ!

My take:

Hulk was stronger than Thor.
Thor can stand toe-to-toe physically with the Hulk.
Thor was pretty durable in the movie, he took crazy hits and just shrugged em off like nothing.
Thor held back in the Helicarrier, by how much isn't known but it was clearly shown via the script.
Thor's attack that pushed back 3 giant alien snake carrier thingies seemed to have been assisted via the building he was on.
Tony saying "we have a Hulk" was more for a witty retort than any indication of power (IMO), tho it can be interpretted as such.
Hulk and Thor were the powerhouses in the movie, but Hulk was given the "sheer power" role more than Thor was.
I think Hulk would beat down Thor if they continued fighting in the Helicarrier.
In an open field, tho, Thor would just blow Hulk away via anti-Destroyer Hurricane.

👆 +1

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I think both sides of the argument have good points. It's just crazy how people seem to take extreme, almost unreasonably biased interpretations just to make one side look good and the other side look bad. It's just crazy. Lol.

Btw, Avenger movie was the PWNAJJ!

My take:

Hulk was stronger than Thor.
Thor can stand toe-to-toe physically with the Hulk.
Thor was pretty durable in the movie, he took crazy hits and just shrugged em off like nothing.
Thor held back in the Helicarrier, by how much isn't known but it was clearly shown via the script.
Thor's attack that pushed back 3 giant alien snake carrier thingies seemed to have been assisted via the building he was on.
Tony saying "we have a Hulk" was more for a witty retort than any indication of power (IMO), tho it can be interpretted as such.
Hulk and Thor were the powerhouses in the movie, but Hulk was given the "sheer power" role more than Thor was.
I think Hulk would beat down Thor if they continued fighting in the Helicarrier.
In an open field, tho, Thor would just blow Hulk away via anti-Destroyer Hurricane.

I agree with all of this except for possibly the building. I still don't think he really used to amp anything and it was just more for show.

But it isn't really that important.

Not saying it amped the attack, just saying that he used it to assist the attack somehow. It wasn't really clear in what way, tho.

Originally posted by Newjak
I agree with all of this except for possibly the building. I still don't think he really used to amp anything and it was just more for show.

But it isn't really that important.

I think it was to help channel it, kind of like how he uses Mjolnir in the comics.

Originally posted by Philosophía

Loki being his brother and Thor not wanting to kill him isn't an excuse for Thor not replicating Hulk's performance. It's a retarded rationalization. If Thor would have had the ability to manhandle Loki as extremly as Hulk did, he would have - even moreso since, as you say, he didn't want to kill him. If I'm fighting my little brother, and I can manhandle him to the ground so that the fight stops quietly, I do so - I don't grab my hammer and start going into swinging contests.

Dude, he went into a swinging contest because Loki still had the staff. People seem to keep forgetting that little fact. Once Thor disarmed him, he manhandled him pertty easily by body slamming him to the ground. And I'm sorry, it was quite obviosu Thor was still trying to save his brother and get him to "see the light", so to speak.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I think both sides of the argument have good points. It's just crazy how people seem to take extreme, almost unreasonably biased interpretations just to make one side look good and the other side look bad. It's just crazy. Lol.

Btw, Avenger movie was the PWNAJJ!

My take:

Hulk was stronger than Thor.
Thor can stand toe-to-toe physically with the Hulk.
Thor was pretty durable in the movie, he took crazy hits and just shrugged em off like nothing.
Thor held back in the Helicarrier, by how much isn't known but it was clearly shown via the script.
Thor's attack that pushed back 3 giant alien snake carrier thingies seemed to have been assisted via the building he was on.
Tony saying "we have a Hulk" was more for a witty retort than any indication of power (IMO), tho it can be interpretted as such.
Hulk and Thor were the powerhouses in the movie, but Hulk was given the "sheer power" role more than Thor was.
I think Hulk would beat down Thor if they continued fighting in the Helicarrier.
In an open field, tho, Thor would just blow Hulk away via anti-Destroyer Hurricane.

I won't argue with any of this, except that the building amped/assisted the lighting attack. The only logical reason I can think of for why the giant metal electrical conductor 😖hifty: was struck is because...well... 😄

...and a little show.

This thread has gone somewhat out of control.

I can't help but feel partially responsible for some reason.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This thread has gone somewhat out of control.

I can't help but feel partially responsible for some reason.

Cause you're always responsible.

Holy crap, let me just address this:

Originally posted by carver9
Points that are being ignored by Thor aholics.

I wish I could say the Hulkies were so reasonable.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor was on the losing end against Hulk on the carrier.

In the punch fest? Yes. Lucky for Thor he has a lot more to offer than punches. Whilst Hulk gave Thor all he has to offer. And the most he could do was give Thor a slight nose bleed.

Originally posted by carver9
Tony stated Hulk was the most formidable on the team.

For the love of GOD No he didn't!

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk turned the tide in a battle against the aliens.

Debatable.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk survived a free fall whereas Thor had to bust out, fly a bit to aid in the impact from the free fall because he would have died just like Loki said.

Biased at all? Loki said the humans think we're immortal. I'd like to test that theory. In other words even he wasn't sure if Thor would survive that or not.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor attacks wasn't doing anything to Hulk (no proof at all he was holding back) whereas Thor was bleeding and getting punched through walls.

Holy crap NO proof Thor was holding back? How about No Lightning, No Hurricanes, no Mjolnir for half the fight and most of all he said it himself "I don't want to hurt you Banner."

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk>>Thor

In strength? Yes. All Out? Nah.

lol Carver with the misrepresentation.

That was an even fight. Both Hulk and Thor do their things in the hand to hand was sweet.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
It did hurt him as getting hit in the face with Mjolnir should but Hulk shrugged it off almost immediately, which is very impressive especially considering he wasn't expecting it.

Wasn't expecting it? Lol. Yeah who would expect a full on hit mid-fight? Lol

Originally posted by The Sorrow
😂 Your delusional. The punch barely had any effect.

If that was the case he wouldn't have moved.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
The first (and only) punch Hulk landed bloodied Thor. Yeah, great showing 👆

And that's without Thor being able to fly around. If he only got in one good punch in such a confined space, what do you think would be his chances of getting in any hits when Thor's flying about and has the space to go all out.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Lulz

We've seen what Thor can do in an all out in his own film. The Lightning, the Tornadoes. Yeah Hulk barely felt a portion of Thor's power. Like it or not, that's fact and you know it.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
If Hulk was bloodlusted as you claim BW would have been a smear,

No, because he barely got a touch on her. He was about to kill her until Thor saved her life by smacking Hulk through the wall.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk would have punched Thor to death instead of tossing him around

Lol he frigging tried! His first punches Thor blocked. Other hits he completely dodged.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
and would've killed the pilot.

Not necessarily. He threw him out. That could have killed him. Pilot just got lucky.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Even landing in the abandoned building was calculated by Banner.

Well that might have just been luck. But let's assume your right. By that point he was away from the Hellicarrier, and considering he turned back to Banner soon after, shows Banner was probably gaining control back.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
It's amazing how badly you've failed to comprehend what was a very simplistic film.

Lol look whose talking. Im shocked you've completely missed that Loki was influencing him at that point. Missed the part where BW works out Loki's plan to influence Banner/Hulk. Missed the part where Banner was clearly the most influenced by the staff.

And most of all missed the completely obvious, which is that Banner controlled Hulk wouldn't attack Black Widow! LOL And put thousands of innocent at risk on the Hellicarrier for no reason LOL.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
You believe a jet wing is really going to slice Thor in two? Even considering they're movie versions that's poor durability for someone on the level of Thor.

No I believe Hulk TRIED his best to slice Thor in 2.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Fact is Thor has never really been shown as having uber strength in the films, he struggled with Loki, struggled with Iron Man, while Hulk dominated Loki (and Thor) and proved to be vastly stronger than Iron Man against those giant Leviathans. Thor held back his weather powers not his strength.

LOL First of all Hulk is stronger. Im not denying that. Loki is Thor's adopted brother. If you can't see he held back on Loki then your comprehension skills are beyond hope.

Iron man required a PIS 4* amp to even go toe to toe with Thor.
Lol. And even then Thor was crushing his armor arms with his bare hands. Lol

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He stopped his transformation half way through as he had control.

No he tried to resist changing but failed.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He allowed himself to change, throughout the film it was referenced that he can control his transformations and has at least some control over the Hulks actions. This is indisputable.
Hell even prior to learning to channel his anger he always had a degree of influence over the Hulk and never kills innocents.

Lol he changed the first time due to Loki's influence. He didn't want to change at that point! Are you nuts? So what he Wanted to chase and hurt BW?? Banner wanted to Batter Thor?? And enganger the whole Hellicarrier?! Don't be ridiculous!

Hulk held back in the entire movie. Not holding back Hulk>>>>>>anybody in the movie.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk held back in the entire movie. Not holding back Hulk>>>>>>anybody in the movie.

Fail to see how Hulk was holding back at all. There is no need to make shit up. Hulk's feats are awesome enough as it is.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk held back in the entire movie. Not holding back Hulk>>>>>>anybody in the movie.
stop that shit

at this point you should get at least a warning for it

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Fail to see how Hulk was holding back at all. There is no need to make shit up. Hulk's feats are awesome enough as it.

He held back though.

@Psycho, why can't I say Hulk held back when his teamates held back through the entire movie. The entire team held back.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk held back in the entire movie. Not holding back Hulk>>>>>>anybody in the movie.

lol, now you're just sounding like a Thor fan. biscuits