Movie Hulk(Avengers) vs Movie Thor

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
👆 Thor and Hulk seemed to be equals. Thor blocked Hulks punch and Hulk couldn't push him down.

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Thor was more affected by Hulk's punches than otherwise. Even his best shot in the entire fight, the Mjolnir to the face, did nothing more than get Hulk even angrier. By the end of their fight, before the interruption kicked it, Hulk was ragdolling Thor around, and it seemed to be heading towards a Loki situation.

Speaking of which, not that it was needed, but Hulk treating Loki as I would a toddler, and leaving him on the floor "aaaaa"ing incontrollably in a few slams, again, makes it obvious that Hulk is significantly more formidable. I got a chuckle out of Jake saying that this was a "sucker attack", as if Loki wasn't standing right in front of him, after Hulk had just punched hm across the room. I also love the implications of "brotherly love" somehow stopping Thor from replicating that performance. I know you like Thor a lot, but get a grip on reality.

We can go on about how Thor would have died from falling basically the same height Hulk had. How Hulk was blatantly treated as the most powerful one. How Thor vs Iron Man was competitive before and after Iron Man was amped, and I don't think there's anybody here who thinks that if Hulk had been in Thor's stead, Iron Man wouldn't have been a pinata.

Hulk is not a building-sized, slow moving obvious target, against which Thor has time to climb up on a strategic place and summon his lightning attack. That's if Thor would even be able to have his hold on the hammer long enough for him to complete the process, as he seemed to lose it against both Hulk (twice) and Iron Man, once it got physical.

I know frustration is at an all-time high, with Hulk outshining Thor in virtually every medium but it is what it is. Hulk wins.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Speaking of which, not that it was needed, but Hulk treating Loki as I would a toddler, and leaving him on the floor "aaaaa"ing incontrollably in a few slams, again, makes it obvious that Hulk is significantly more formidable. I got a chuckle out of Jake saying that this was a "sucker attack", as if Loki wasn't standing right in front of him, after Hulk had just punched hm across the room. I also love the implications of "brotherly love" somehow stopping Thor from replicating that performance. I know you like Thor a lot, but get a grip on reality.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He caught Loki off guard and Thor's entire objective through the film was an attempt to redeem his brother and get him to come back to Asgard quietly. We've already seen Thor best Loki when he's had enough of his bullshit.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, he caught him off guard. 👆

Not saying it wasn't Loki's own fault for monologuing, but it's clear he wasn't expecting Hulk's ragestomping.

Not sure how what I said isn't based based on "reality". I didn't make anything up nor twist anything to serve my own purpose. Unless you're just trying to have some fun at my expense, in which case, okay. 👆

oh jeez philosophia, that post is going to give the thorbags eplileptic seizures as they twist themselves into pretzels trying to make more excuses for thor's poor showing

Originally posted by Starscream M
oh jeez philosophia, that post is going to give the thorbags eplileptic seizures as they twist themselves into pretzels trying to make more excuses for thor's poor showing

I think you got something on your nose there, Brucey.

Possibly shit.

Originally posted by Philosophía
They seemed anything but equals. As soon as Thor caught Hulk's forearm/wrist, he followed it almost immediately with the other arm, because he was losing the struggle. That's not even going into how force distribution, and how Thor catching Hulk's forearm/wrist (which Surfer recently did to Thor in their fight) isn't the same as straight up blocking the point of his strike.

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Thor was more affected by Hulk's punches than otherwise. Even his best shot in the entire fight, the Mjolnir to the face, did nothing more than get Hulk even angrier. By the end of their fight, before the interruption kicked it, Hulk was ragdolling Thor around, and it seemed to be heading towards a Loki situation.

Speaking of which, not that it was needed, but Hulk treating Loki as I would a toddler, and leaving him on the floor "aaaaa"ing incontrollably in a few slams, again, makes it obvious that Hulk is significantly more formidable. I got a chuckle out of Jake saying that this was a "sucker attack", as if Loki wasn't standing right in front of him, after Hulk had just punched hm across the room. I also love the implications of "brotherly love" somehow stopping Thor from replicating that performance. I know you like Thor a lot, but get a grip on reality.

We can go on about how Thor would have died from falling basically the same height Hulk had. How Hulk was blatantly treated as the most powerful one. How Thor vs Iron Man was competitive before and after Iron Man was amped, and I don't think there's anybody here who thinks that if Hulk had been in Thor's stead, Iron Man wouldn't have been a pinata.

Hulk is not a building-sized, slow moving obvious target, against which Thor has time to climb up on a strategic place and summon his lightning attack. That's if Thor would even be able to have his hold on the hammer long enough for him to complete the process, as he seemed to lose it against both Hulk (twice) and Iron Man, once it got physical.

I know frustration is at an all-time high, with Hulk outshining Thor in virtually every medium but it is what it is. Hulk wins.

Good post.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Didn't Loki stab Thor

I remember when I used to get mocked when I said thor's pierce durability was shit

You people keep acting like Thor couldn't survive the fall Hulk did, yet that is exactly what he did. Just because he kicked himself out of the container doesn't mean he still didn't the hit the ground with the same force Hulk.

Which he was up from and ready to keep fighting not to soon after that.

Originally posted by Starscream M
forgot about that

I remember when I used to get mocked when I said thor's pierce durability was shit

You get mocked for your general lack of comic book knowledge - due to not really reading them - and some of your opinions which are completely based on garbage. You are the same guy that claimed that Thor was restricted to natural weather phenomena and couldn't create storms far more potent than anything possible in reality, after all.

Thor's piercing durability is fine, certainly better than Hulk's and significantly worse than Superman's. And Loki stabbing Thor with an Asgardian weapon (the same daggers that did a number on the Frost Giants in the first Thor movie) is a low feat...how, again?

Thor was more powerful

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think you got something on your nose there, Brucey.

Possibly shit.

fact is, Philo makes some very good points, albeit in a colorful manner.

Thor and hulk both faced loki...and hulk did far better against loki than thor. In their h2h, hulk fared better. In the fight against aliens, hulk fared better. So this argument about who is superior is purely academic, as reality shows that movie hulk is clearly superior to movie thor.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

Thor's piercing durability is fine, certainly better than Hulk's and significantly worse than Superman's. And Loki stabbing Thor with an Asgardian weapon (the same daggers that did a number on the Frost Giants in the first Thor movie) is a low feat...how, again?

werent you one of the clowns I used to debate who said thor's pierce durability was better than colossus? well, colossus would not have been stabbed by that blade.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Thor and hulk both faced loki...and hulk did far better against loki than thor. In their h2h, hulk fared better.

That is true but no one is disputing that Hulk was stronger than Thor in the Avengers movie.

Also, I'd like to point out that Thor owned Loki with a lightning blast when he was stabbed in his movie and manhandled him when he was stabbed in the Avengers. Basically, the moment Thor gets mad, Loki gets stomped.

Taking into account the sucker shot with the information above, Loki is not evidence of Hulk's superiority over Thor. Although I think he's stronger.

Originally posted by Starscream M
In the fight against aliens, hulk fared better.

Incorrect.

Originally posted by Starscream M
So this argument about who is superior is purely academic, as reality shows that movie hulk is clearly superior to movie thor.

I get it, you don't like Thor very much, never have, but at least give him some credit. The Hulk's physically stronger but you're low balling if you don't think the advantage becomes very questionable once we take into account Mjolnir and Thor being the God of Thunder.

Originally posted by Starscream M
that's uncalled for, jake 😬 be a little more mature, will ya?

fact is, Philo makes some very good points, albeit in a colorful manner.

Thor and hulk both faced loki...and hulk did far better against loki than thor. In their h2h, hulk fared better. In the fight against aliens, hulk fared better. So this argument about who is superior is purely academic, as reality shows that movie hulk is clearly superior to movie thor.

lol irony much?

Originally posted by Starscream M
oh jeez philosophia, that post is going to give the thorbags eplileptic seizures as they twist themselves into pretzels trying to make more excuses for thor's poor showing

Yeah, because that post was the standard of maturity. Lol, never cease to amaze.

Yeah, Hulk grabbed Loki mid-sentence and beat the shit out of him. Whether or not it's Loki's own fault for being an arrogant douche (for the record it is), he still obviously wasn't expecting Hulk to grab him. How this can even be argued is beyond me. Yeah, it's to be expected that Hulk would fare better in melee than Thor. Their fights against the aliens were different due to the tactics behind them. Thor's general purpose was to bottleneck the invading ships. Cap just gave Hulk free reign to smash. Not really the same thing.

Yeah, Thor fighting down to Hulk's level is fighting at a disadvantage. I already said this and have said this multiple times.

Originally posted by Starscream M
werent you one of the clowns I used to debate who said thor's pierce durability was better than colossus? well, colossus would not have been stabbed by that blade.

How do you know that? Did Colossus guest star in your special edition of the Avengers? Or is this one of those times you pretend movies directly translate into comics despite power levels varying wildly.

Bringing up Loki is a bad example since IM rocked him with 1 repulsor blast...

Originally posted by Starscream M
that's uncalled for, jake 😬 be a little more mature, will ya?

fact is, Philo makes some very good points, albeit in a colorful manner.

Thor and hulk both faced loki...and hulk did far better against loki than thor. In their h2h, hulk fared better. In the fight against aliens, hulk fared better. So this argument about who is superior is purely academic, as reality shows that movie hulk is clearly superior to movie thor.

Thor was fighting his brother trying to save him. He has already stomped Loki when they get serious. Plus Loki still had the scepter when he fought Thor.

Thor did survive the giant fall, cause after he broke out of the container he still hit the ground.

Thor fared pretty well in HTH with Hulk, even though he would have lost he still did well.

And it's completely false that Hulk fared better against the Aliens.

Originally posted by Newjak
You people keep acting like Thor couldn't survive the fall Hulk did, yet that is exactly what he did. Just because he kicked himself out of the container doesn't mean he still didn't the hit the ground with the same force Hulk.

Which he was up from and ready to keep fighting not to soon after that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

I get it, you don't like Thor very much, never have but at least give Thor some credit. The Hulk's physically stronger but you're low balling if you don't think the advantage becomes very questionable once we take into account Mjolnir and Thor being the God of Thunder.

two, sure mjolnir evens things out a bit...but I just don't buy the notion that it turns to thor's favor with mjolnir

guys like you and jake like to project what you think thor should do, and when he does, that he'd best hulk

unfortunately, thor never does those things. can he unleash lightning on hulk, maybe...but I doubt it'd put hulk down, and furthermore, very likely enrage hulk even further to the point where it becomes even more lopsided in hulks favor

if movie hulk and movie thor were to fight full on, I think its pretty clear from the movies that hulk would be victorious even if thor went all out. they depict thor less a god than a very powerful hero...they depict hulk as an unstoppable force of nature.

I thought it was common knowledge you hate Thor just as much as Carver hates Superman. 😕