The saddest thing I've ever read.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
wow

The "wow" is that you felt like there was anything hope or substance of saving the troll-attempt that failed before you posted it. But let's read on to see how sad your attempt has gotten:

Originally posted by focus4chumps
the claim was made that she cheated. here you present possibilities in which cheating might have been justified.

Incorrect. I presented reasons for why she may have cheated, not that she was justified. By the way, what you just tried to do is called a strawman. 😉

Even IF you did not read the words after "two sides to the story", you still got clarification from my reply to Astner after he presented his strawman-esque rhetoric: thus your original unnecessary comments were not even appropriate. But we both know it was troll-thymes for you.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
therefore you suggest that cheating is sometimes justifiable.

A false premise has lead to a false conclusion.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
are you just trolling or are you really this angry and ill equipped to discuss the simplest of topics?

Ahhh. Here it is. The pretend the other is trolling, tactic. Keep in mind, I have fleshed out all facets of your troll-attempt. Now you've resorted to the sad and pitiful tactic of accusing others of trolling when you yourself were trolling right out of the gate.

At this point, I think I can just copy and paste my replies to you because you've become rather circular in your troll attempt.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
...the better option is always to simply get out of the relationship (be it temp or perm).

I agree.

I don't think cheating is ever justified.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
its ok. its not like you said a thing and then went on to type an essay trying to convince me you didnt say it.

More reality warping, eh? Sad.

Can you guys just get this over with and **** already?

There's been awkward sexual tension between you two for at least weeks, maybe months.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Can you guys just get this over with and **** already?

There's been awkward sexual tension between you two for at least weeks, maybe months.

Try years.

Oops. I've said too much. 😐

you just keep typing nonsense in order to avoid the blatant fact of what you said. and you want to lecture me about ego. 🙄

Originally posted by focus4chumps
you just keep typing nonsense in order to avoid the blatant fact of what you said. and you want to lecture me about ego. 🙄

Originally posted by dadudemon
More reality warping, eh? Sad.

What's sad about reality warping? Funky Matrix moves are da shit.

She should have talked to him and broke up if she wanted to be with another guy. You can't help who you fall in love with or lust after, but you can be honest and fair to your partner.

Anyways, he'll probably get over it in time.

Astner is trying to get over it right now.
That's why he's not responding to any of our comments.

Time is a healer, my friends... yes, Time is a healer.

Originally posted by dadudemon
(continued attempt at jedi mind trick)

hmmm...maybe you didnt actually say what you clearly said. also these aren't the droids we're looking for.

Originally posted by Bardock42
She should have talked to [*you] and broke up if she wanted to be with another guy. You can't help who you fall in love with or lust after, but you can be honest and fair to your partner.

Anyways, [*you'll] probably get over it in time.

*corrected for accuracy

So it's settled, everyone agrees it's actually Astner in the story and he was reaching out for some consolation and advice. The thread title does make sense now, from his perspective, it likely is the saddest thing to happen to him.

We should probably not be dicks since he got his ass kicked, lost his girl to a better looking guy and had to use invasive software on her property to discover it.

Keep your chin up Astner, the grief will pass. Sorry about the inconsiderate comments before, I had no idea they'd strike home. Condolences.

Originally posted by Robtard
So it's settled, everyone agrees it's actually Astner in the story and he was reaching out for some consolation and advice. The thread title does make sense now, from his perspective, it likely is the saddest thing to happen to him.

We should probably not be dicks since he got his ass kicked, lost his girl to a better looking guy and had to use invasive software on her property to discover it.

Keep your chin up Astner, the grief will pass. Sorry about the inconsiderate comments before, I had no idea they'd strike home. Condolences.

Wow! Doesn't he know that he should have came to use all and truthfully tell use the sad things in his life, so we all could openly mock him. This was just a waist of our time.

😈 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Wow! Doesn't he know that he should have came to use all and truthfully tell use the sad things in his life, so we all could openly mock him. This was just a waist of our time.

😈 😉

That's not very Om Ma Ni Pad Me Cum of you.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's not very Om Ma Ni Pad Me Cum of you.

Someone who would tell these people anything personal, had ether never read anything posted here or...

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Astner is trying to get over it right now.
That's why he's not responding to any of our comments.

Time is a healer, my friends... yes, Time is a healer.

And so is Tim, he's a doctor and everything.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
hmmm...maybe you didnt actually say what you clearly said.

Originally posted by dadudemon
More reality warping, eh? Sad.

Originally posted by Robtard
So it's settled, everyone agrees it's actually Astner in the story and he was reaching out for some consolation and advice.

No, I do not agree with that. I think it is someone else and Astner still has his own girlfriend.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, I do not agree with that. I think it is someone else and Astner still has his own girlfriend.

That is sort of my view as well.

I couldn't imagine myself sharing personal information with a sociopath like Astner. Or that Astner is capable of sympathy for another human being.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, I do not agree with that. I think it is someone else and Astner still has his own girlfriend.

While you might be correct, if you factor in the nature of the information and that by Astner's own admission he barely knows this person, it's far more likely Astner was punched out, his GF cheated on him, gave excuses that she was watching kitten vids online and Astner had to find out by invading her privacy.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I can believe someone like Astner sharing such personal information on a forum full of people he barely knows...

I know many people on KMC much better than I do people who call me "friend" in the real world. Astner is a smart person with a decent memory: I would dare say he knows a lot of us quite well.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
(a very socially awkward thing to do, especially given how this forum is anything but a comforting sewing circle),

I disagree. I feel comfortable around most people here (to which I frequently talk) and I do share personal information (as do you and many others). We are just smart enough to draw the line at PII.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't want to believe that there's someone who would share this information to Astner--someone who the original figure doesn't know in person--and then Astner would want to show it off second hand to a third group.

Some people really hit it off in like 5 minutes. Then they act as though they have been friends for years. Surely there's someone out there that would do the same with Astner? Also, Astner has kept the person anonymous and the text is not searchable on the internet (other than KMCs result) so it remains anonymous. He also wanted advice on what to do. He obviously trusts us enough to get at least some decent feedback and he did get that.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't want to believe in a chain of tangentially related sympathy whoring.

I don't see that, either. As you can tell, I didn't give his friend's situation any sort of sympathy or empathy. I asked for the other side of the story. Generally speaking, both parties are at some sort of fault during a messy break-up like this. Humans are generally not idealistically "good" or "evil". As apparent from the story, the ex-boyfriend does seem overbearing/controlling. Almost disturbingly so. If I were to guess, I would say he is also verbally abusive.

So we could give out sympathy...but it doesn't seem right. So, basically, we agree here, but not for the same reasons.

Originally posted by Robtard
...it's far more likely Astner was punched out, his GF cheated on him, gave excuses that she was watching kitten vids online and Astner had to find out by invading her privacy.

I believe that old excuse/thing against Astner was: "You don't even have a girlfriend. Stop lyin'."

What about the writing style being completely different from Astner's? What about the tone of the e-mail being completely different from Astner's usual tone? Not that those can be faked, but I tend to think I can pick up on those things when I look closely (which I have). I could be wrong, obviously.

Just sayin'...for me, it is much harder to believe that that is Astner's text.

Research shows that men have a harder time during breakups because they do not have that support network of friends to discuss the breakup like women do. Breakups are more difficult for men. Knowing this, it does not seem out of place that an almost "stranger" to Astner would seek help. He may have no one else to turn to or trust.