Sebastion Shaw (Movie) V.S. Thor (Movie)

Started by NemeBro7 pages

Originally posted by janus77
I was responding to neme's comment about Shaw not having a limit. By the same token, Hulk hasn't shown a limit either, there was nothing that the aliens nor Thor nor anyone else did as far as assaults/attacks go, that caused Hulk injury, nevermind left him unconscious.
Shaw can absorb enough energy to make him a literal walking nuclear weapon.

Aka more than what Hulk has shown to dish out.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Shaw can absorb enough energy to make him a literal walking nuclear weapon.

Aka more than what Hulk has shown to dish out.


Give that Shaw would amp from Hulk's attacks, it would just be an endless stalemate. There's nothing to say that he would have a problem taking whatever attacks Shaw could produce.

Hulk is what saved Banner from a gamma bomb, according to Stark. It's also pretty much unkillable according to Shield and Banner.

Originally posted by janus77
He needed some time, but that reactor is a huge store of power.

In a fight he should be able to take power instantly from whatever attacks Thor uses.

When did Shaw instantly absorb energy equal to what Thor used for the ground strike in the first movie or the lightning attack that boosted Iron-man to 475%?

Originally posted by Silent Master
When did Shaw instantly absorb energy equal to what Thor used for the ground strike in the first movie or the lightning attack that boosted Iron-man to 475%?

He can absorb the energy, to store it, or he could just let it all out instantly. As far as I recall, he was storing the nuclear energy, therefore taking time to absorb it. The energy he 'bounces back' at people, is instant, and we never saw a limit to it.

Originally posted by janus77
He can absorb the energy, to store it, or he could just let it all out instantly. As far as I recall, he was storing the nuclear energy, therefore taking time to absorb it. The energy he 'bounces back' at people, is instant, and we never saw a limit to it.

It took him several minutes to absorb part of the reactor, when did he ever instantly absorb or bounce back the amount of power Thor can dish out?

Originally posted by janus77
Give that Shaw would amp from Hulk's attacks, it would just be an endless stalemate. There's nothing to say that he would have a problem taking whatever attacks Shaw could produce.

Hulk is what saved Banner from a gamma bomb, according to Stark. It's also pretty much unkillable according to Shield and Banner.

Why would it be an endless stalemate?

Shaw would continually absorb Hulk's punches, until he absorbs enough Kinetic energy to overpower Hulk.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why would it be an endless stalemate?

Shaw would continually absorb Hulk's punches, until he absorbs enough Kinetic energy to overpower Hulk.


Hulk can continue to take that kind of force, and greater.

Hulk wouldn't tap out, no evidence to support that. And Shaw wouldn't be overloaded (similarly no evidence of that happening).

And Hulk would just get madder and stronger.

Hulk was weakened when he was being hit by a barrage of lasers. You could see green blood and whatnot coming out of his nose and looked thoroughly beat up. I think if it continued for much longer he would get overwhelmed and ko/die.

Shaw took everything to the face with a smile. IMO if a dozen of so ships tried to fire on shaw, he would walk right through it.

I would say there is potential for shaw to eventually beat Hulk never the other way around.

When did Hulk look "weakened" or even bloodied. I saw the film twice (albeit on a very low quality stream the second time) and neither time did I see Hulk bloodied.

He took the barrage without any injury at all. And it was after that barrage, that he pulled off the save of IM and the crash landing (where he took the brunt of the force, cradling IM).

I don't see Shaw (try saying that aloud three times!) KOing Hulk. Don't think he'd ever build up the energy to do it, without outside help/prep.

When the aliens did a berserker barrage with like 30 blasters. When they stopped, Hulk had a slightly bloody nose, but was otherwise fine. As he showed no discomfort throughout the rest of the movie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It took him several minutes to absorb part of the reactor, when did he ever instantly absorb or bounce back the amount of power Thor can dish out?

What is your point? The reactor was leaking out energy at a slow pace.. I saw nothing nor heard nothing about Shaw not being able to do it if it was all at once. We are not hear to prove a negative. If you think he couldn't do it, provide evidence that he couldn't. We saw him take attacks from Magneto... huge steel beams one right after the other... and it did NOTHING to him and he absorbed them all just fine. Shaw beats Thor.. there is literally nothing Thor could do sans bfr or a time stop like in the movie.

The point is that Shaw has zero feats of instantly absorbing or "bouncing back" Thor level attacks.

Just like Thor has no feats to say he could beat Shaw. Hammer throws to the torso? Absorbed. Bolts of lightning? Absorbed.

Shaw wins.

Couldnt Thor just grab Kevin and snap his neck?
That's totally out of personality though...😛

Originally posted by Estacado
Couldnt Thor just grab Kevin and snap his neck?
That's totally out of personality though...😛

I think Shaw would absorb the kinetic force of that? Thor can always grab him and dump into the depths of the ocean?

Originally posted by janus77
When did Hulk look "weakened" or even bloodied. I saw the film twice (albeit on a very low quality stream the second time) and neither time did I see Hulk bloodied.

He took the barrage without any injury at all. And it was after that barrage, that he pulled off the save of IM and the crash landing (where he took the brunt of the force, cradling IM).

I don't see Shaw (try saying that aloud three times!) KOing Hulk. Don't think he'd ever build up the energy to do it, without outside help/prep.

Look at his face real close right after the barrage.

Edit, Wanted add that during the barrage it clearly looked like it was taking a toll. If it was not it would of been more like the time where the jet was shooting at hulk "Mildly annoyed."

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I think Shaw would absorb the kinetic force of that? Thor can always grab him and dump into the depths of the ocean?

What about doing it super slowly?😛
Erik won like that.😛

Originally posted by Galan007
Just like Thor has no feats to say he could beat Shaw. Hammer throws to the torso? Absorbed. Bolts of lightning? Absorbed.

Shaw wins.

Thor has feats that are above what Shaw has shown able to instantly absorb.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor has feats that are above what Shaw has shown able to instantly absorb.

Shaw has proven that he had zero difficulty adsorbing any attack sent at him.

(how is this contributing to the debate?)