Sebastion Shaw (Movie) V.S. Thor (Movie)

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Shaw has proven that he had zero difficulty adsorbing any attack sent at him.

(how is this contributing to the debate?)

Which of those attacks were on the level of Thor's ground pound from the first movie or the lightning attack from the second?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Which of those attacks were on the level of Thor's ground pound from the first movie or the lightning attack from the second?

Are you trying to say lack of proof is proof in itself that a person is incapable of doing something?

You might have a case if he looked like he was exerting himself in the slightest when dealing with multiple machine gun rifles simultaneously being shot at him. He did have to take a few minutes to absorb energy out of a nuke but Nuke is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything Thor ever did.

Absorbing leaking nuclear energy is not = to absorbing the blast yield of a nuke.

It's like the difference between sticking your finger in an electrical socket and getting struck by lightning.

I'm saying, that if people want to claim that Shaw can absorb Thor's attacks, then they have to post feats where Shaw absorbed similar level attacks.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor has feats that are above what Shaw has shown able to instantly absorb.

And imo, absorbing the entirety of a nuclear reactor's power (which Shaw had no reservations whatsoever about doing) shows that he is capable of easily absorbing/storing energies > what Thor has displayed. Shaw not absorbing said energies "instantly" doesn't mean much. It's the same amount of total energy regardless of how fast he absorbs it. Additionally, he was only capable of absorbing the energy as fast as the ship could deliver it--it's not his faulty it couldn't be delivered "instantly".

I'd also like to remind everyone that Shaw seemed capable of amplifying the energy he absorbed by a very high margin. This was beautifully portrayed during this scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dRuwBwnmsU
(0:22-0:30 for the energy absorption, then 0:40 for the [amplified] energy release.)

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor has feats that are above what Shaw has shown able to instantly absorb.

WTF.... When did Thor produce something greater than what Shaw has absorbed on panel?

He didn't absorb the whole reactor and what he did absorb took several minutes,, and yes, the speed he can absorb at does matter.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
WTF.... When did Thor produce something greater than what Shaw has absorbed on panel?

Try watching the movies.

If you can absorb x amount of energy at y pace. If you get too much too fast, you will overload.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He didn't absorb the whole reactor

and what he did absorb took several minutes,

and yes, the speed he can absorb at does matter.

Again, Shaw was only capable of absorbing the energy as fast as the ship could deliver it... Not his fault said energy was delivered at a slower pace. :/

The speed at which Shaw absorbs energy matters? What're you basing that claim on? Certainly nothing Shaw said or did in the film. :/

Originally posted by KingD19
If you can absorb x amount of energy at y pace. If you get too much too fast, you will overload.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Try watching the movies.

So nothing then... how you name the feats that are greater than what shaw did on panel that leads you to believe Shaw couldn't absorb it.

You're ignoring the reason WHY Shaw HAD to absorb the energy at "y pace". You're also posing absorption limits on him when he never displayed any.

w/e

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So nothing then... how you name the feats that are greater than what shaw did on panel that leads you to believe Shaw couldn't absorb it.

I've already named a couple of them, ie the ground pound and the lightning strike.

At no point did Shaw ever absorb an attack that powerful.

Shaw absorbed a barrage of rockets with ease and grenade with EASE, he absorbs what Thor throws at him

A standard grenade from the cold war era is not comparable to Thor. Neither is a single bazooka round. And he took a barrage of bullets, and a single bazooka. A bazooka can hardly penetrate a tank.

So essentially what Silent Master is saying is that Thor has output more energy than Shaw can Absorb with no Proof because there is none to be had.

We get it, it can't be proved that Shaw can absorb his attacks, however you seem to be ignoring the fact that it can't be disproved either.

Originally posted by KingD19
A standard grenade from the cold war era is not comparable to Thor. Neither is a single bazooka round. And he took a barrage of bullets, and a single bazooka. A bazooka can hardly penetrate a tank.

Its funny posters say Shaw never absorbed attacks on Thors lvl!! yet when did we see Thor put down a energy absorber!!

Originally posted by Nihilist
Youre totally missing the point, he absorbed them with complete ease showing he had no problem with anything shown to come his way.

Its funny poater say Shaw never absorbed attacks on Thors lvl!! yet when did we see Thor put down a energy absorber!!

Originally posted by Nihilist
Youre totally missing the point, he absorbed them with complete ease showing he had no problem with anything shown to come his way.

Its funny poater say Shaw never absorbed attacks on Thors lvl!! yet when did we see Thor put down a energy absorber!!

I get the point. But just because he can absorb those levels of attack with ease, doesn't mean he can do the same with Thor's level of attack.

Comparisons are everything. A grenade is let's say getting hit by an average boxer. Thor's attacks are like getting hit by a car going 90mph. There's a huge difference and you can't put one next to the other.