Phoenix (x-men movies) VS Thor (marvel movies)

Started by Placidity3 pages

Originally posted by Newjak
Something else I would like to point out is that Jean was unable to effect Wolverine's Adamantium skeleton.

I think it was shown to be to durable for her to destroy. So there was something that could survive her attack based solely on durability.

Well, we don't know for certain that she tried to disintegrate it but failed, but I would be inclined to believe she couldn't.

Originally posted by Placidity
Well, we don't know for certain that she tried to disintegrate it but failed, but I would be inclined to believe she couldn't.

jean couldn't. if she could, then should would have, but didnt, meaning she couldn't.

Originally posted by Placidity
Well, we don't know for certain that she tried to disintegrate it but failed, but I would be inclined to believe she couldn't.
My kind of personal take on the scene was that DP was trying to halt, maim, possibly kill Wolverine, but Jean was keeping it enough in check to keep it from completely obliterating him.

During this though we see Wolverine have entire chunks and pieces of skin and flesh removed. The only that survived in those areas was Wolverine's skeleton.

That's the only real reason I say I don't think she could have. I think it was shown being able to stand up to the attacks. It's not definitive though.

She could have just removed all the flesh and tissue from his skeleton and left just the metal. She was instantly disintegrating hummers, cars, buildings, people, and jets. All of Wolverine's flesh would have been child's play at that point. The climax of the scene made it clear what happened. Jean allowed him to stop her because she was completely losing control.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
She could have just removed all the flesh and tissue from his skeleton and left just the metal. She was instantly disintegrating hummers, cars, buildings, people, and jets. All of Wolverine's flesh would have been child's play at that point. The climax of the scene made it clear what happened. Jean allowed him to stop her because she was completely losing control.
Did I say that she couldn't have. I just said I think Jean was holding back the DP from doing that.

Otherwise yes the DP would have completely destroyed him except for the skeleton.

Originally posted by Placidity
Loki being unaffected I felt was really inconsistent to me. His levels go up and down throughout IMO, but I'd have to watch the film again to comment further. Even Hulk was affected by gunfire in both movies, and I don't see Thor/Loki being that far above him.

I agree. You need to watch the film again.

Loki's durability is not inconsistent at all. He is bullet-proof. He tanks hits from Cap's shield. He shrugs off hits from Iron Man. He takes hits from Thor. He takes a hit from Hulk and survives even the vicious beating at the end. He takes a grenade-like blast going off inches from his face. His durability is well-measured.

Thor fares better against nearly identical attacks and more in the same film.

As for Hulk, it's misleading to say he is affected by gunfire. It seems to very mildly annoy him. And that was from one of these: or something comparable