Hulk (Bana) vs Hulk (Rufflao)

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
A healing factor wouldn't get rid of the blood that's already dripped.

You jump to conclusions way too quickly and with too little evidence.

But it would stop the blood from continuing and if you noticed he was clearly in pain(as you claimed before pain always = damage) in that rubble scene, so it's a logical conclusion. Hulk's power-set is having a healing factor, assuming he doesn't have one unless specifically stated or shown he doesn't is silly.

You try to downplay who you want to see lose too much.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Point being he's not completely invulnerable like some people were trying to claim.

With enough power output he can be damaged.

Well, I don't see Banana Hulk hitting Buffalo with a hit with the power of the en-masse alien horde blasts. And even if he can potentially reach that level of strength, he doesn't start out with it, which sucks since Buffalo has been proven to start out with Chitauri-fish-crushing hits, so when they first start, Buffalo's gonna have a huge advantage over him, and if he can put Banana down before he can reach an appropriate strength level, he should take the win

I saw avengers yesterday.

Ang Lee's version of Hulk is definitely much stronger. Like....a lot stronger. He also seems to be the one who would win this confrontation based on several factors.

However, their durability is definitely in question.

I do not know how much it would take to knock out Bana Hulk but I do know how much it would take to knock out Ruffalo's Hulk: a fall from altitude. What was it, 18,000 feet? Bana's Hulk had an even higher fall and was not knocked out. Also, Bana's Hulk showed more intelligence/tactics. At one point, he kicked the little train trolley when being fired upon by all of the soldiers, around when he first escaped his cell. He also knew where the command center was and threw the "vault" cover into it. That's pretty smart. He also seemed to have more emotions than this other Hulk as he visited his childhood "dorms" on the old base. That's when he survived the low-yield nuke (and got his only injury). At worst, it was a vacuum bomb which is on the same level as a low-yield nuke. He also used the turret from a tank as a shield from another shell round because he had taken two shell rounds prior (once in the sand approaching them from a distance and once while charging them).

No healing factor was seen from Ruffalo's, despite what others are saying. His durability is quite good, as well. He also seems dumber than Bana's Hulk.

The movie (Hulk) can be watched here, in 720P, for free (after it starts to play, allow it to buffer for a few minutes by pausing it):

http://www.gsmovies.com/movie.php?id=14517

It has a time limit so be ready to adjust your IP address. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
I saw avengers yesterday.

Ang Lee's version of Hulk is definitely much stronger. Like....a lot stronger. He also seems to be the one who would win this confrontation based on several factors.

However, their durability is definitely in question.

I do not know how much it would take to knock out Bana Hulk but I do know how much it would take to knock out Ruffalo's Hulk: a fall from altitude. What was it, 18,000 feet? Bana's Hulk had an even higher fall and was not knocked out. Also, Bana's Hulk showed more intelligence/tactics. At one point, he kicked the little train trolley when being fired upon by all of the soldiers, around when he first escaped his cell. He also knew where the command center was and threw the "vault" cover into it. That's pretty smart. He also seemed to have more emotions than this other Hulk as he visited his childhood "dorms" on the old base. That's when he survived the low-yield nuke (and got his only injury). At worst, it was a vacuum bomb which is on the same level as a low-yield nuke. He also used the turret from a tank as a shield from another shell round because he had taken two shell rounds prior (once in the sand approaching them from a distance and once while charging them).

No healing factor was seen from Ruffalo's, despite what others are saying. His durability is quite good, as well. He also seems dumber than Bana's Hulk.

The movie (Hulk) can be watched here, in 720P, for free (after it starts to play, allow it to buffer for a few minutes by pausing it):

http://www.gsmovies.com/movie.php?id=14517

It has a time limit so be ready to adjust your IP address. 🙂

What did Bana Hulk do that surpassed Ruffalo Hulk's Chitauri behemoth punch? Or steering one with strength alone?

He fell from 30,000 feet, and he wasn't knocked out. The guy who found him said he was still green raging until he turned back into Banner. It was Banner who was knocked out. If that fall didn't ko Thor, it definitely wouldn't ko Hulk.

That wasn't a nuke. It was a gamma bomb.

If anything, Ruffalo Hulk showed more intelligence as he could follow orders fairly well, could speak when it suited him, and knew how to hold a grudge. Bana might have shown my intuitive nature, but he needed it. Ruffalo Hulk just smashed through everything. He was also smart enough to cut the second chitauri behemoth off and take a shortcut through the office building to get to him, then steered him away from the building. Ruffalo Hulk was even smart enough to keep Banner from dying because he knew he'd die as well. When Banner said he shot himself and Hulk spit the bullet out.

As for emotions. Bana showed what, angry and sad? And him going home was a result of his "homing instinct" wasn't it? Ruffalo showed anger, humor, pettiness, etc...

Hulk wasn't unconscious as a result of the fall, the old man said he was still awake after the fall.

It's probably just the transformation to Banner, that required Hulk fall asleep (as in the tv series too, iirc).

Don't really see how Bana Hulk is stronger.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Don't really see how Bana Hulk is stronger.

He was having trouble with the gamma dogs and couldn't even fully smash an Abrams tank.

Those gamma poodles were ferocious (even if they ruined the film for me) and David Banner was pretty insanely powerful.

The stuff with the tanks seems more akin to him holding back and attempting to put the vehicles out of commission without putting the soldiers out of commission too.

He also took a bazooka to the eyeball, iirc.

Overall, I still don't think Ruffalo Hulk has feats of the same calibre. Only the one-punch death blow to the giant robo-fish-carrier thing was good, the rest is not really worthy of comparison with Bana Hulk.

I've watched Bana Hulk in action multiple times; Ruffalo Hulk I've only seen once. My first thought is to give it to B-Hulk, but the more I think about it (trying to remember), R-Hulk may have the edge. Not sure yet. R-Hulk one-shotting the leviathan was pretty damn cool; B-Hulk having to use a piece of tank to tank a tank shot was a bit disappointing.

He also took a bazooka to the eyeball, iirc.

Overall, I still don't think Ruffalo Hulk has feats of the same calibre. Only the one-punch death blow to the giant robo-fish-carrier thing was good, the rest is not really worthy of comparison with Bana Hulk.

The bomb in the desert at the base where bana was held was that the first look at that Stark Bomb before the Iron Man movie?

Originally posted by KingD19
What did Bana Hulk do that surpassed Ruffalo Hulk's Chitauri behemoth punch? Or steering one with strength alone?

You mean when the behemoth pushed Hulk back quite a bit while he held his fist in place and the momentum of the behemoth caused it to continue to move forward?

Let's not blow feats out of proportion. 😐

And steering one by moving the plates on it's back? Again, let's not blow things out of proportion.

What did Hulk do that [vastly]surpassed Hulk's punch? He threw a fully armed Abrams Tank several hundred meters. That tank weighed 68-75 tons (depending on the armament and model). If we assume the Chitauri weigh about as much as a adolescent blue whale (they are not nearly as big as an adult blue whale but they have metal plates which would increase their mass...so I estimate their weight to be around 40-60 tons), Bana's Hulk vastly outclasses Ruffalo's and not even by a little: by a lot.

Originally posted by KingD19
He fell from 30,000 feet, and he wasn't knocked out. The guy who found him said he was still green raging until he turned back into Banner. It was Banner who was knocked out. If that fall didn't ko Thor, it definitely wouldn't ko Hulk.

No, it was much lower than that. They mentioned that they were around 20,000 feet. That Hulk was on a jet that lost quite a bit of altitude at a couple of points not to mention the altitude they experience due to the loss of one engine.

Originally posted by KingD19
That wasn't a nuke. It was a gamma bomb.

Gamma bomb is still a nuke and it had the nuke effects, but that wasn't what I was talking about.

Originally posted by KingD19
If anything, Ruffalo Hulk showed more intelligence as he could follow orders fairly well,

He could not. Stop wanking.

Originally posted by KingD19
could speak when it suited him,

Bana's Hulk could speak as well...but in much more complete sentences. Or did you miss the part where that alter-ego of his spoke to Bana when Hulk's rage completely took over Bana's personality? (Which is part of the reason that version of Hulk was better than the '08 and Avengers versions).

Originally posted by KingD19
and knew how to hold a grudge.

Holding a grudge is hardly comparable to biting off the warhead of a missile and spitting it at the tail of a helicopter. 🙂

Originally posted by KingD19
Bana might have shown my intuitive nature, but he needed it.

No, he showed clear forward thinking on level with any military person. He was quite tactical which was surprising to me. I had forgotten about those until I watched the film again, today.

Originally posted by KingD19
Ruffalo Hulk just smashed through everything.

Indeed. He was much more of a mindless Hulk than Bana's.

Originally posted by KingD19
He was also smart enough to cut the second chitauri behemoth off and take a shortcut through the office building to get to him, then steered him away from the building.

That's not smart at all. That's just simply running, head on, at something. That's less forward thinking than hunting spiders...and I do not need to remind you of how small and simple their brains are.

Originally posted by KingD19
Ruffalo Hulk was even smart enough to keep Banner from dying because he knew he'd die as well.

No, that's not what happened or what was stated. You're making things up, now. What WAS stated, however, was that Banner tried to kill himself by putting a bullet in his mouth and he turned into the Hulk................any type of injuries turn him into the Hulk. You don't turn die immediately from being shot in the mouth.

Originally posted by KingD19
When Banner said he shot himself and Hulk spit the bullet out.

Indeed. That's not the same as the Hulk thinking ahead, forcing his way out, and saving both of them, like you're injecting into the story.

Originally posted by KingD19
As for emotions. Bana showed what, angry and sad?

Going down the list:

Happiness, sadness, rage, serenity, spiritual peace (lol...like...for real ...he hippy'ed out for a moment), revenge, kindness, excitation, hate, pain, terror, hope, worry, weariness, curiosity, determination, and man, I'm tired of this.

Originally posted by KingD19
And him going home was a result of his "homing instinct" wasn't it?

I don't think you can call it "homing instinct" when we are clearly shown flashbacks from his childhood as he reminisced about his past memories. Hardly a "homing instinct".

You could try harder to downplay Bana's version of Hulk because you got a little excited while watching Avengers. But it would be difficult. 😐

Originally posted by KingD19
Ruffalo showed anger, humor, pettiness, etc...

No, Ruffalo's Hulk showed Anger, Rage, revenge, rage, anger, madness, anger, rage, anger, madness, rage, anger, impatience, anger, rage, rage, rage, rage, rage, rage, etc.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk wasn't unconscious as a result of the fall, the old man said he was still awake after the fall.

No, the old man did not say that.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Don't really see how Bana Hulk is stronger.

Cool. No need for you to see that, though, as I can see well enough for both of us. 😄

Originally posted by KingD19
He was having trouble with the gamma dogs and couldn't even fully smash an Abrams tank.

lol

Gamma dogs...were like copies of Hulk. Hulk Smashed. 🙂

And "couldn't even fully smash an Abrams Tank": lol. Downplay, much?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Thats al he needs to prove himself. Based on that buffalo can replicate any of bananas feats but nothing shows that banana can replicate buffalos feat and like i said maybe he can reach that stage of strentgh eventually but buffalo starts out with it so he can put bana down before bana can gain the strentgh to defend himself

No, Ruffalo's Hulk cannot replicate everything Bana's Hulk did.

Also, as the movie progresses, Bana's Hulk can go insta-big size.

What I see a lot in this thread is tons of Avengers movie hype/excitation and no objectivity. Cool. Glad you guys liked the new Avengers film. But stop wanking all over the new version of Hulk.

Forgot about the part where he throws the giant ass rock a hundred or so feet that his father was in. That rock could weigh into the hundreds of tons. Using the volume of a cylinder, I estimate around 250 tonnes (not tons) for the mass of that pillar he threw. Definitely far more strength required to do that than the punch the other Hulk gave.

And for those that say the gamma radiation fuels Hulk: the Gamma Charge bomb that they launched at Hulk and his father (David) destroyed David and caused Hulk to revert into his human form. Seems quite clear that it was a detriment to Hulk and his Father, not a "good" thing. Sure, gamma radiation activated the genetic modification David performed against himself and his son. But a "help" to them, it was not.

Originally posted by KingD19
He was having trouble with the gamma dogs and couldn't even fully smash an Abrams tank.

to be fair, most people would have a hell of a time taking out a small pack of large dogs. Dog versions of Hulk would prolly be the same

Originally posted by Robtard
But it would stop the blood from continuing and if you noticed he was clearly in pain(as you claimed before pain always = damage) in that rubble scene, so it's a logical conclusion. Hulk's power-set is having a healing factor, assuming he doesn't have one unless specifically stated or shown he doesn't is silly.

You try to downplay who you want to see lose too much.

So I guess Thor has a healing power as well. Since his nose bleed disappeared as well.

Wow Thor really would kill Hulk 😉

Originally posted by Lestov16
Well, I don't see Banana Hulk hitting Buffalo with a hit with the power of the en-masse alien horde blasts. And even if he can potentially reach that level of strength, he doesn't start out with it, which sucks since Buffalo has been proven to start out with Chitauri-fish-crushing hits, so when they first start, Buffalo's gonna have a huge advantage over him, and if he can put Banana down before he can reach an appropriate strength level, he should take the win

Very unlikely considering Bana Hulk's Incredible Healing factor, and the rate at which he increases strength.

BTW, did anyone notice who that old man was, the one who found Ruffalo when he regained consciousness, the one who asked if he was an "alien"?

Harry Dean Stanton: Bret from "Alien."
Also, I believe Powers Boothe was the head of the Council.

Originally posted by Mindship

Also, I believe Powers Boothe was the head of the Council.

I thought so too

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LMAO hulk didn't punch that thing in half he punched its head down(denting it) causing it to roll on its back (due to the way its built) and be shot by iron man

and made the other change direction which bana hulk could do easily.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So I guess Thor has a healing power as well. Since his nose bleed disappeared as well.

Wow Thor really would kill Hulk 😉

If you noticed, last time we see Thor before the big showdown he's in the field, looking at his hammer, his nose is still bleeding, he's not wearing his armored sleeves and his cape is gone, then he appears later in full armor, wearing his cape and all showered and cleaned/dressed up. So it stands to reason he cleaned/dressed himself up somewhere(maybe went back to the helicarrier?).

It's possible, he'd be the only one in that film to have the chance.