What can Loki do to Doom? Stab him with a dagger? Shot him with some energy? Create some illusions?
Doom rough housed Thing and has so much durability that it took a contained SuperNova to put him down. And he still survived. So he most definitely has a powerful HF.
His electric blasts are intense and won't simply burn through Loki obviously like the guy in the carpark he killed in FF. But it will be sufficient to weed out the illusions and blast Loki down once he goes melee. After that Doom just has to pour on the juice.
Loki can't hurt Doom. Doom can hurt Loki. When Doom grabbed a random pole and charged it with energy he smashed Thing, so add that as another offensive feat.
the Glowstick of Destiny wasn't as powerful as the staff he had in Thor.
Doom.
Originally posted by the ninjakLoki's dagger was able to harm Thor which is pretty impressive.
What can Loki do to Doom? Stab him with a dagger? Shot him with some energy? Create some illusions?Doom rough housed Thing and has so much durability that it took a contained SuperNova to put him down. And he still survived. So he most definitely has a powerful HF.
His electric blasts are intense and won't simply burn through Loki obviously like the guy in the carpark he killed in FF. But it will be sufficient to weed out the illusions and blast Loki down once he goes melee. After that Doom just has to pour on the juice.
Loki can't hurt Doom. Doom can hurt Loki. When Doom grabbed a random pole and charged it with energy he smashed Thing, so add that as another offensive feat.
Doom.
And if Loki has the Scepter I think that thing could definitely hurt Doom.
Originally posted by Newjak
Loki's dagger was able to harm Thor which is pretty impressive.And if Loki has the Scepter I think that thing could definitely hurt Doom.
True but Doom is practically living organic metal encased in a powerful shell.
And he has an amazing HF. A dagger in the back shouldn't do crap. The guy is a brick. What was impressive was Loki charging said daggers in the movie Thor. Apparently the same enchanted kind of dagger but those glowed.....oh well.
The sceptre has no destruction feats. Exept hitting vulnerable aircraft and killing a few guys and a woman.
The slave maker ability won't work either, for the same reasons it didn't work on Stark.
I still see Doom winning 5/5 fights average considering powersets.
Originally posted by the ninjakDoom didn't have a healing factor. If you see him in the next movie you clearly see him scarred when fighting the Surfer.
True but Doom is practically living organic metal encased in a powerful shell.
And he has an amazing HF. A dagger in the back shouldn't do crap. The guy is a brick. What was impressive was Loki charging said daggers in the movie Thor. Apparently the same enchanted kind of dagger but those glowed.....oh well.The sceptre has no destruction feats. Exept hitting vulnerable aircraft and killing a few guys and a woman.
The slave maker ability won't work either, for the same reasons it didn't work on Stark.I still see Doom winning 5/5 fights average considering powersets.
Originally posted by Newjak
He wasn't burnt to a husk. They just heated him up to be really hot/semi-melty and then cooled him down really fast to make him unable to move.
And you think that wouldn't seriously harmed any character. Being stuck in a bubbled SuperNova? They thought he was dead, sent him back to Latveria as a statue but he returned perfectly normal.
Originally posted by the ninjakHe was hurt, and he also had severe scaring afterwards as shown with his encounter with the Surfer where we see his face is still burned up.
And you think that wouldn't seriously harmed any character. Being stuck in a bubbled SuperNova? They thought he was dead, but he returned perfectly normal.
I'm not saying surviving the attack isn't a really good feat for him, but he doesn't have a healing factor at least not one shown on screen.
Originally posted by Newjak
He was hurt, and he also had severe scaring afterwards as shown with his encounter with the Surfer where we see his face is still burned up.I'm not saying surviving the attack isn't a really good feat for him, but he doesn't have a healing factor at least not one shown on screen.
Haven't seen FF2 in a long time.
If he can completely heal from a SuperNova yet remains scarred by Cosmic Energy. Then that says more about Cosmic Energy. When Doom had the power he turned a man into cubes. Maybe they introduced Surfer's power as having the ability to permanently scar Doom where a SuperNova couldn't.
Originally posted by the ninjakThe sueprnova wasn't the thing that defeated him tho. They just heated him up to make his outer metal shell enough to cause it melt some and then cooled him really fast which locked all his joints in place.
Haven't seen FF2 in a long time.
If he can completely heal from a SuperNova yet remains scarred by Cosmic Energy. Then that says more about Cosmic Energy. When Doom had the power he turned a man into cubes. Maybe they introduced Surfer's power as having the ability to permanently scar Doom where a SuperNova couldn't.
And it wasn't the Surfer who gave him the scars in FF2. Those scares were from the ending fight in FF1. Actually it was Surfer's blast that ends up healing Doom so he looks normal again.
I think that they are pretty evenly matched actually, Loki toke blasts from Iron Man without injury and the Human Torch survived Doom's lightning (through the chest) so I think Loki can take the blasts (atleast for a bit) without getting KO'ed. Doom himself also showed very nice durability. But if I have to go with one it'll probably be Loki, his magic tricks will really take Doom off guard and I actually see the staff having some effect.
Originally posted by Newjak
The sueprnova wasn't the thing that defeated him tho. They just heated him up to make his outer metal shell enough to cause it melt some and then cooled him really fast which locked all his joints in place.And it wasn't the Surfer who gave him the scars in FF2. Those scares were from the ending fight in FF1. Actually it was Surfer's blast that ends up healing Doom so he looks normal again.
If the Surfer's blast was what healed Doom then Doom is pretty much screwed in this fight if it wasn't for his survival of the SuperNova. He still had eyes under that visor. Surviving such contained heat is not something that someone could survive just because he was wearing armor.
Plus he can blast electricity around himself making illusions hard to do. I still think this fight isn't heavily in favor of Loki.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Plus he can blast electricity around himself making illusions hard to do. I still think this fight isn't heavily in favor of Loki.
I actually think that electricity was something he drew into himself in order to gain more energy for the fight, you can (if you watch the fight) see that the lightning are being drawn towards him, not shooting away from him. But it might be a combination, however he doesn't appear to have any control over it's general direction and much of the lightning was simply shot into the air or drawn to him from up high.
Edit: However they are fighting in New York so he won't run out of power as I originally thought.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I actually think that electricity was something he drew into himself in order to gain more energy for the fight, you can (if you watch the fight) see that the lightning are being drawn towards him, not shooting away from him. But it might be a combination, however he doesn't appear to have any control over it's general direction and much of the lightning was simply shot into the air or drawn to him from up high.Edit: However they are fighting in New York so he won't run out of power as I originally thought.
I wonder if Doom was in the presence of the Tesseract he could run wild? This OP has Doom in the presence of it? It's no exactly hard to find it's on top of Stark Tower.
Originally posted by the ninjak
I wonder if Doom was in the presence of the Tesseract he could run wild? This OP has Doom in the presence of it? It's no exactly hard to find it's on top of Stark Tower.
No, but I doubt that Doom can get through the shield of pure energy that the Cosmic Cube (as I prefer to call it) generated to protect itself.