Dr Doom vs Loki

Originally posted by the ninjak
Loki can manipulate minds.
And can unleash magical daggers that can penetrate even Thor's armor.
I originally thought Doom could take this due to his ability to survive an enclosed Super Nova. Yet it was brought to my attention that his survival was largely due to the Surfer.
In Thor, Loki was able to create myriad constructs of himself whilst attacking his target.
And in the same movie he shot forth infused daggers that penetrated and killed Frost Giants with ease.
He survived deep space and has advanced mystical telepathic abilities.
He wins this now in a landslide.

I'm surprised he didn't use the same thrown daggers against the Hulk. Or attempted to cloud his thoughts.
My only guess is that he was rattled by the Hulk's first assault that he resorted to simple communication with the beast. And he failed at that on epic levels, calling him the equivalent of a peasant existing amongst a god.....insane!
A poor showing for Loki unless his invisibility was useless against such a primitive beast. Which would make sense.
After all Loki focused on Banner primarily upon his arrival on the Helicarrier.

I blame that scene on Hulk's popularity and fanbase. Basically, people just wanted to see Hulk smash and so they sacrificed Loki (and to an extent Thor) just so they could shine the spotlight on Hulk.

I mean, think about it. Loki is suppposed to be this uber cunning manipulator, who's a proven warrior with mystical abilities. With reflexes fast enough to catch an arrow. Who has shown good intel over his adversaries and their powers. Yet for some reason, he somehow chooses to just stand there and talk to the single Avenger who doesn't talk. I mean I know he was frustrated and all, but you don't just forget centuries of fighting experience and instinct like that.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I blame that scene on Hulk's popularity and fanbase. Basically, people just wanted to see Hulk smash and so they sacrificed Loki (and to an extent Thor) just so they could shine the spotlight on Hulk.

I mean, think about it. Loki is suppposed to be this uber cunning manipulator, who's a proven warrior with mystical abilities. With reflexes fast enough to catch an arrow. Who has shown good intel over his adversaries and their powers. Yet for some reason, he somehow chooses to just stand there and talk to the single Avenger who doesn't talk. I mean I know he was frustrated and all, but you don't just forget centuries of fighting experience and instinct like that.

Precisely Froth....

They sacrificed Loki for laughs.
Damn..! the guy was seen in his origin film fighting Frost Giants front on with mind manipulation and energized versions of the weapon he used against Thor in Avengers!
I laughed as everyone did. But it was mockery at best.
The same with Hulk punching Thor out after they downed a behemoth.
He has no respect for Asgardians.

Originally posted by golem370
Two extremely durable and powerful characters. While Loki was in New York setting up the Avengers Doctor Doom gets a reading of an unknown power he goes to investigate the power where he runs into Loki they can tell they don't like each other and the fight starts.

Originally posted by Robtard
Doom, cos he's less of a whiny ***** and I don't recall him ever being easily outwitted by a woman. Unless I'm forgetting something from those two shit films.

Guess Asgardian men just aren't prepared for the underhanded manipulations of earthly women. Loki should be grateful he doesn't have a credit card.

Originally posted by the ninjak
True, though he didn't expect Banner to hurry back into New York after his machinations.
He did everything he could to avoid Banner from bringing his monster into the war.
He ensnared Banner and the rest of the team in his manipulations, cept Black Widow!
And did his best to ensure the end game of his invasion plan would come to fruition.
The heroes in the end were actually Black Widow, Hawk Eye and Fury.
The only people who in the end saw through the cloud of fog Loki created and acted accordingly.
The other heroes just did what they could to contain the threat.
Thor being the weakest of the team.
He should have been the one who caught the bomb and flew it into the portal.

I can't get over how weak the present day movies make Thor. He's the one who should be shocking the team with his abilities not Ironman!

Originally posted by Robtard
Doom, cos he's less of a whiny ***** and I don't recall him ever being easily outwitted by a woman. Unless I'm forgetting something from those two shit films.

HA! Those films were a complete shame.

Yet Doom was limited by the fact that he isn't some genius sorcerer technowizard with unlimited resources. He's just some genius level douchbag who has obtained techno organic flesh and the ability to harness high levels of electricity through it.
He may have blasted a hole through a businessman and kinetically blasted the Thing away.
And also caught Sue in his grasp.

But Loki can cloud thoughts. And release daggers that can pierce Thor.
Has also the combat feats to fight Thor in combat.

Movie Doom sucks compared to his comic or animated comparison.

Originally posted by the ninjak
HA! Those films were a complete shame.

Yet Doom was limited by the fact that he isn't some genius sorcerer technowizard with unlimited resources. He's just some genius level douchbag who has obtained techno organic flesh and the ability to harness high levels of electricity through it.
He may have blasted a hole through a businessman and kinetically blasted the Thing away.
And also caught Sue in his grasp.

But Loki can cloud thoughts. And release daggers that can pierce Thor.
Has also the combat feats to fight Thor in combat.

Movie Doom sucks compared to his comic or animated comparison.