Sebastion Shaw Vs. The Avengers

Captain America
Thor
Hulk
Iron Man
Hawkeye
Black Widow

Vs.

Sebastion Shaw

Fight takes place in NY after the invasion as the Avengers are leaving the shawarma restaurant (consider them fully rested and healed/repaired/reloaded); Sebastion approaches them:

Sebastion: "I'm not happy, I was hoping the aliens would destroy the governments of the world; as I planned to rise-up with my mutants and retake the planet and rebuild it in my own image."

Thor: "Stand aside you lunatic mortal, I've just feasted and am in no mood."

Sebastion: *smiles* "Ah, the so-called demi-god, I have it on good word that Odin secretly bottoms for Heimdall's massive black cock."

Thor: *rages* "The All Father doth not bite pillow, mortal!" *rages some more*

Fight!

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Avengers can net a win or two.

SHIELD will tell the Avengers of Shaw's powerset after a brief skirmish of Hulk punching Shaw and Shaw simply tanking it.

After that Cap tells everyone to withdraw as he tells Hulk to go underground and push the ground underneath Shaw and lift him into the air. Thor creates a hurricane that keeps Shaw airborne and dumps him off the coast.

Wouldn't Sebastion just absorb the lifting-force of the tornado?

Shaw's powerset is still in the end a mystery. He died so we couldn't see more.

If the ground beneath Shaw was risen would he rise as well? Lets say for instance whilst Shaw was on that submarine and Superman flew underneath the sub and lifted it into the sky could Shaw just halt himself and blast out of the sub and fall the the earth? I don't think so personally. The guy abosrbed heavy kinetic impact by "focusing" on it and then absorbing it.

Going by the same physics a constant barrage of passive wind rising him into the air can't be compared to the bullets and missile blast he received in XM:FC for the above reasons.

I don't know but I'm open for real theories on just how Shaw's powers worked in First Class.

He said (to the general) that he can absorb all forms of energy. The nuclear-power/radiation he absorbed wasn't kinetic in nature.

Wind-energy would be considered kinetic-energy though, iirc.

It seems like Shaw could be thrown if he was standing or inside something and that object was thrown. But Hulk couldn't grab and thrown him.

I never said that. I said Hulk or respectively Ironman could lift the ground underneath Shaw and raise him.

As I said before a constant current of wind isn't the same as a bazooka blast or a grenade. And Shaw took at least up to ten secs to come to grips with such explosions. Tornado levels of Wind is pressure and many tiny volumes of kinetic energy. Shaw theoretically could start to absorb the wind particles but there are so many more bursting from underneath and around him.

And regardless, how is Shaw going to kill the Avengers?

Originally posted by the ninjak
I never said that. I said Hulk or respectively Ironman could lift the ground underneath Shaw and raise him.

And I was agreeing.

But what does that accomplish, he could just jump off and become more powerful in line with how far he's fallen once he absorbs the kinetic energy of his body hitting the ground.

Hulk groung pounds like in ITH causing Shaw to fall and Thor places Mjlonir on Shaw pinning him down

Other than that or something similiar (making it so Shaw cant move) Shaw could thrash them

Originally posted by juggerman
Hulk groung pounds like in ITH causing Shaw to fall and Thor places Mjlonir on Shaw pinning him down

Other than that or something similiar (making it so Shaw cant move) Shaw could thrash them

Edit: I miss-read your post.

What would happen if Thor just flew next to him, picked him up and flew away?

I doubt the Avengers can kill Shaw, but they can definitely bfr him.

Just have Thor hug Shaw and then Hulk kick Thor really friggin' hard ... into orbit or something.

Thor then flies back (once he regains consciousness) and Shaw is left to drift in space.

This is a tactic Thor was born for, seeing as IM would died as a result of a kick from Hulk. Thor absorbs the brunt of the kick, Shaw only gets a little energy from it, not enough to get out of Thor's grip ..

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So your tactic for an Avengers win is Thor giving Shaw a homosexual embrace and then getting pounded in the ass from the Hulk? Clever.

But I'm fairly sure they'd have attacked Shaw first for some time before realizing he's capable of taking massive damage and reusing it. So Show would likely he a power-house of stored energy before they came up with 'Operation Man-Hug".

Originally posted by Newjak
What would happen if Thor just flew next to him, picked him up and flew away?

Theoretically it would work. Lifting him isn't impact kinetic energy.

Originally posted by Robtard
So your tactic for an Avengers win is Thor giving Shaw a homosexual embrace and then getting pounded in the ass from the Hulk? Clever.

But I'm fairly sure they'd have attacked Shaw first for some time before realizing he's capable of taking massive damage and reusing it. So Show would likely he a power-house of stored energy before they came up with 'Operation Man-Hug".

The only ones I can see attacking Shaw, are BW and Hawkeye and their attacks aren't enough to power him up too much. In fact, it may just be enough of an amp for IM to notice and run scans on Shaw.

The Thor picking him up and floating off to space with him tactic would also work... but wouldn't be a true team effort, imo.

Similarly, Hulk could just roll Shaw up into a ball, really slowly, so that Shaw doesn't build-up too much power, then throw him into orbit.

Another tactic, Cap applies superglue to his shield, then sticks it on Shaw's arse, Hulk kicks shield (and Shaw) into space, the shield absorbs whatever energies the kick produced, whilst vibrating and preventing those energies from transferring to Shaw ... hmm 😕

Originally posted by janus77
Another tactic, Cap applies superglue to his shield, then sticks it on Shaw's arse, Hulk kicks shield (and Shaw) into space, the shield absorbs whatever energies the kick produced, whilst vibrating and preventing those energies from transferring to Shaw ... hmm 😕

Genius. Cap's shield can definitely be of use in this battle, as long as it isn't used by Cap.

What would happen if Hulk grapped Shaw and began applying a slow and steady pressure, would he absorb the energy fast enough to resist the pressure or would he simply die from being slowly crushed?

The problem as I see it, is that shaw's durability doesn't increase with the amount of energy he absorb (shown when the coin entered through his skull), so while I can see ways for the avengers to win, I'm simply in the dark as to how Shaw absorb beside that he has to move in order to absorb it. I mean he ran when Magneto threw the anchor and all after him, maybe a direct impact, while he had absorbed the energy would simply cause a blunt blow to large for his physical body to handle.

Yeah I'm fishing.

Shaw's ability to kinetically stop and absorb damage on film was based upon him consciously wanted to stop it.
Hence Mags punching him in the face whilst they were in the sub.

Originally posted by Utrigita
What would happen if Hulk grapped Shaw and began applying a slow and steady pressure, would he absorb the energy fast enough to resist the pressure or would he simply die from being slowly crushed?

The problem as I see it, is that shaw's durability doesn't increase with the amount of energy he absorb (shown when the coin entered through his skull), so while I can see ways for the avengers to win, I'm simply in the dark as to how Shaw absorb beside that he has to move in order to absorb it. I mean he ran when Magneto threw the anchor and all after him, maybe a direct impact, while he had absorbed the energy would simply cause a blunt blow to large for his physical body to handle.

Yeah I'm fishing.

Shaw took a grenade in his hands and then a RPG to the head, I think he can absorb energy nigh-instantly.

IIRC, Shaw's powers were down due to Xavier being in his head at the moment.

Shaw. Theres nothing they can do to him really.