Sebastion Shaw Vs. The Avengers

Started by NemeBro3 pages

The coin went through his head because a class 100 pushed it through, and Shaw was effectively frozen in time and unable to use his powers.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The coin went through his head because a class 100 pushed it through, and Shaw was effectively frozen in time and unable to use his powers.

What do you mean frozen in time? Xavier just froze his mind, like he did to all those people in the mall in X2.

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Watch 1:51-1:54, that's what exactly would and should have happened to Shaw as the coin pushed against it. Doesn't matter if it's class 1 or class 1 billion it would have the same effect in that situation.

Regardless of the physics issue that a slow object would have pushed Shaw instead of cutting into him, it's clear that his powers were effectively nullified due to Xavier being in his mind.

It's little different with the suspension of belief we had to have when Superman lifts that island, when he should have drilled right through it instead, when we factor in the power he was exerting over the surface area of his body and the composition on the island.

Originally posted by Placidity
What do you mean frozen in time? Xavier just froze his mind, like he did to all those people in the mall in X2.

YouTube video

Watch 1:51-1:54, that's what exactly would and should have happened to Shaw as the coin pushed against it. Doesn't matter if it's class 1 or class 1 billion it would have the same effect in that situation.

I know how Xavier's powers work. But also notice that a physically normal girl was able to push a grown man and tilt him, which she could not do were he not frozen.

Also, lol. This is a comic book movie. I don't see you complaining about Hulk's fist traveling slow enough for guys like Captain America to react to, but being capable of busting a building sized leviathan thing with a punch (His fist would have to be traveling at some ridiculous hypersonic speed to manage that shit, velocity x mass ****er).

It's the exact same principle.

Shaw died 'cause he needs to concentrate to absorb the energy. A telepath is the only real way to beat him... otherwise, he'll just wait out the attacks.

Originally posted by Robtard
Regardless of the physics issue that a slow object would have pushed Shaw instead of cutting into him, it's clear that his powers were effectively nullified due to Xavier being in his mind.

It's little different with the suspension of belief we had to have when Superman lifts that island, when he should have drilled right through it instead, when we factor in the power he was exerting over the surface area of his body and the composition on the island.

Also @NemeBro

I completely understand the suspension of belief sentiment, and under other circumstances, I would not feel the need to question it or put it up against critical scrutiny.

However, it is different in this case, because people are trying to use this single and illogical (in my reasoning) feat to infer how Shaw's ability works, and then use that as a basis for another argument.