The Avengers vs The Machines (The Matrix)

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
It runs on the arc reactor in his chest. It never said what kind of energy it put out iirc.

Why would you assume it doesn't run on electricity?

Why did the lightning charge him up?

I believe there was lots of electricity when the big arc reactor in Iron Man 1 when it was being pushed to overdrive or whatever. And yea, it supplied powers to homes etc. Just like the thing he installed in the Avengers powered up his Tower. Guess what, it runs on electricity, not sound waves, or light or heat or whatever else. Either way, you don't think his suit is made from electronic tech regardless of what form of energy the reactor outputs?

I don't think the machines can harm Thor or Hulk, it's nice to say they have lasers that can break through ships, but so did Ironman and it wasn't like they were causing much damage to the more durable creatures like the Leviathon's and I would say Thor or Hulk are both tougher than those things.

Even if all Thor does is Fly up through the hole when it first forms he would take out a ton of Sentinels just flying through them hammer first. Until he reaches the sky and calls Forth massive amounts of lightning down on them from above.

Heck Thor could probably fly towards the central control area if IM can direct him and threaten the lead machine. I don't think there is really anything they can do to stop him.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
It runs on the arc reactor in his chest. It never said what kind of energy it put out iirc.

On a sidenote, the "arc" in the arc reactor is a play on electric arcs which have incredibly high current densities.

Originally posted by Placidity
Guess what, it runs on electricity, not sound waves, or light or heat or whatever else. Either way, you don't think his suit is made from electronic tech regardless of what form of energy the reactor outputs?

Arc Reactor produces electrical current, it's just a self sustaining and apparently "clean" power source. Unless it's been specifically stated that Tony build in EMP protection, there's no reason to assume his suit would be immune in a Vs match. But personally, I find it hard to believe his suit isn't insulated to survive and EMP burst, guys a genius.

One thing I didn't understand, why he lost power when he went into Chitauri space, it seems like he needs to have a connection with Stark Tower to run the suit.

Originally posted by Robtard
Arc Reactor produces electrical current, it's just a self sustaining and apparently "clean" power source. Unless it's been specifically stated that Tony build in EMP protection, there's no reason to assume his suit would be immune in a Vs match. But personally, I find it hard to believe his suit isn't insulated to survive and EMP burst, guys a genius.

One thing I didn't understand, why he lost power when he went into Chitauri space, it seems like he needs to have a connection with Stark Tower to run the suit.

Understandable, I don't recall Jarvis mentioning him be low. But that's likely it.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The arc reactor was stated to output 3 gigawatts of power. So yeah, Tony's armor does run on electricity and his systems getting charged up to 400% + power when hit by Thor's lightning is further proof of that.

On a sidenote, the "arc" in the arc reactor is a play on electric arcs which have incredibly high current densities.

Actually, I think it was stated to be 3 gigajoules per second and that was the one he built in the cave, his later ones were far more powerful.

Originally posted by Robtard
Understandable, I don't recall Jarvis mentioning him be low. But that's likely it.

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't think the machines can harm Thor or Hulk, it's nice to say they have lasers that can break through ships, but so did Ironman and it wasn't like they were causing much damage to the more durable creatures like the Leviathon's and I would say Thor or Hulk are both tougher than those things.

Even if all Thor does is Fly up through the hole when it first forms he would take out a ton of Sentinels just flying through them hammer first. Until he reaches the sky and calls Forth massive amounts of lightning down on them from above.

Heck Thor could probably fly towards the central control area if IM can direct him and threaten the lead machine. I don't think there is really anything they can do to stop him.

Well the chitauri ships were hurting Hulk when they ganged up on him. He was powerless to stop them then until the chitauri's mothership blew. And if they could do that to Hulk, then it would probably be similar with Thor.

I haven't watched Matrix in quite some time so I'm not sure what kind of firepower those machines have, but if they have anything to equal the firepower of the chitauri gunships, then thousands of them will give even Hulk and Thor problems.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well the chitauri ships were hurting Hulk when they ganged up on him. He was powerless to stop them then until the chitauri's mothership blew. And if they could do that to Hulk, then it would probably be similar with Thor.

I haven't watched Matrix in quite some time so I'm not sure what kind of firepower those machines have, but if they have anything to equal the firepower of the chitauri gunships, then thousands of them will give even Hulk and Thor problems.

Also it wasn't like the lasers they had instantly cut through ships either, I would say Ironman's laser was way more impressive than the Sentinels'. I would also say that the Chitauri weapons were more powerful as well. I don't see Matrix style ships taking more than a couple of those blasts and like I said it wasn't like a Sentinel laser was instantly cutting through the ships as far as I remember.

So unless I'm missing some big feat that those lasers did I don't see them being enough to hurt Hulk or Thor especially if they aren't standing still.

Originally posted by Newjak
I just attributed Stark losing power at the end to him using up all his power reserves, not him losing contact with Stark Tower. He did just go through a huge fight and was using massive amounts of power.

Or did he lose power before that?

Originally posted by Mindset
I thought he lost power because he was near the nuclear explosion and his suit was damaged.

Or did he lose power before that?

Mindset.

Don't ask questions.

Originally posted by Mindset
I thought he lost power because he was near the nuclear explosion and his suit was damaged.

Or did he lose power before that?

I could be remembering it wrong though, but I'm pretty sure that's how it went.

Originally posted by Placidity
Mindset.

Don't ask questions.

Is there even a reason he lost power? Was it the cold of space or what?

Originally posted by omgchos
Is there even a reason he lost power? Was it the cold of space or what?

Didn't Iron Man's suit lose power in the Chitauri space from the EMP from the nuke?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Didn't Iron Man's suit lose power in the Chitauri space from the EMP from the nuke?

I think he lost power before the Nuke went off, therefore I think he just ran out of power.

If he did lose power after the nuke went off the lose of power could have stemmed from an emp but not completely concrete.

Also he didn't lose power in one swift moment I think. I think his eyes blinked a couple of times before going off. If it had been an emp my guess would have been that his eyes would have shut off without the blinking.

Originally posted by Robtard
One thing I didn't understand, why he lost power when he went into Chitauri space, it seems like he needs to have a connection with Stark Tower to run the suit.

His chest plate was running on an entirely new element(absent from the Periodic Table) afterall. An element he created utilizing his father's notes that were written from studying the tesseract.

Edit: Although that depends on whether Avengers takes place before or after Iron Man 2.