The Avengers vs The Machines (The Matrix)

Started by Silent Master7 pages

Iron-man's laser cut through the metal on the Helicarrier just fine.

Also, Thor tackled the Hulk through a bulkhead on the carrier...Thor's durability >>>>>> metal

Sentinels win.

The Avengers were hard pressed against the Chitauri. Against the more numerous and dangerous Sentinels they lose.

What makes the Sentinels more dangerous?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What makes the Sentinels more dangerous?

What makes you think they're not? Those sentinels were ripping through steel like sheet metal. No chitauri ever showed that kind of strength.

Sentinels also needed multiple gun shots to get put down. Chitauri were getting put down by Hawkeye smacking them with his bow.

Sentinels can also fly on their own. Meaning that makes them more versatile and a lot more agile and harder to hit than normal chitauri.

Originally posted by FrothByte
What makes you think they're not? Those sentinels were ripping through steel like sheet metal. No chitauri ever showed that kind of strength.

Sentinels also needed multiple gun shots to get put down. Chitauri were getting put down by Hawkeye smacking them with his bow.

Sentinels can also fly on their own. Meaning that makes them more versatile and a lot more agile and harder to hit than normal chitauri.

The Chitauri had way more firepower and the Leviathons as well.

Originally posted by Newjak
The Chitauri had way more firepower and the Leviathons as well.

Yes I admit, they had more firepower. But they weren't quite as durable, strong, or fast as the sentinels.

The leviathans were near useless anyway in terms of a fight anyway. They had no firepower to speak of and were too slow. They had incredible defense though and were great at destroying buildings. But in terms of offense, they didn't have much to offer.

Looking back at the scene, it looks like Thor used a charged hammer strike against Cap's sheild without summoning lightning.

Which means the Machines are in ever bigger trouble.

Hulk grabs Cap's shield and throws it destroying all the machines in one move.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes I admit, they had more firepower. But they weren't quite as durable, strong, or fast as the sentinels.

The leviathans were near useless anyway in terms of a fight anyway. They had no firepower to speak of and were too slow. They had incredible defense though and were great at destroying buildings. But in terms of offense, they didn't have much to offer.

My point is look what it took to even slow down the Hulk despite the Aliens having more firepower than the Sentinels.

Thor is almost as durable as the Hulk.

Also the Leviathons are way more durable than the Sentinels and look how easily Hulk and Thor were taking them out.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes I admit, they had more firepower. But they weren't quite as durable, strong, or fast as the sentinels.

The leviathans were near useless anyway in terms of a fight anyway. They had no firepower to speak of and were too slow. They had incredible defense though and were great at destroying buildings. But in terms of offense, they didn't have much to offer.


Thats because they seemed to be armored personnel carriers. Or something along those lines.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Iron-man's laser cut through the metal on the Helicarrier just fine.

Also, Thor tackled the Hulk through a bulkhead on the carrier...Thor's durability >>>>>> metal

Can't remember how thick that piece of debris was. Can someone pls link me to a vid/pic of it so I can check? Been looking for it but can't find it.

Being tossed thru a bulkhead doesn't translate to being immune to swarms of steel cutting lasers and steel rending tentacles, tho.

I see a lot of valid arguments here, tbh. But I still see it unlikely for Thor and Hulk to be completely immune to the cutting lasers. Especially in these numbers.

Numbers don't matter if you're immune in the first place.

It's not like 100,000+ spitballs are going to harm you, though you might contract Hep C if it's Nemebro doing the spitting, but that's unrelated.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Can't remember how thick that piece of debris was. Can someone pls link me to a vid/pic of it so I can check? Been looking for it but can't find it.

Being tossed thru a bulkhead doesn't translate to being immune to swarms of steel cutting lasers and steel rending tentacles, tho.

I see a lot of valid arguments here, tbh. But I still see it unlikely for Thor and Hulk to be completely immune to the cutting lasers. Especially in these numbers.

Thor has been hit with energy from Iron-man, Odin's spear and the Bi-Forst explosion and was never injured...There is literally no reason to assume that the machine's lasers will hurt him.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Derp

Iron man's repulsory blast is kinetic force, so its irrelevant, an explosion is also kinetic force. And we have establised before derp, that odins blast is unquantifiable, except for odin disintegrating laufey. Who was not wearing asguaridan armor. For all we know thor's face is not immune to lasers. Im not saying its true, for sure. You just shouldn't talk in absolutes.

Originally posted by Robtard
Numbers don't matter if you're immune in the first place.

I don't think the side for the Machines has agreed they are immune at all. I see all of them as susceptible, and only Hulk surviving due to healing factor.

Originally posted by Robtard

It's not like 100,000+ spitballs are going to harm you, though you might contract Hep C if it's Nemebro doing the spitting, but that's unrelated.

Lol. But 100,000^100,000 spit balls would drown you.

I see it more like fire ants vs a large bird.

Originally posted by omgchos
Iron man's repulsory blast is kinetic force, so its irrelevant, an explosion is also kinetic force. And we have establised before derp, that odins blast is unquantifiable, except for odin disintegrating laufey. Who was not wearing asguaridan armor. For all we know thor's face is not immune to lasers. Im not saying its true, for sure. You just shouldn't talk in absolutes.

Do you have any evidence to indicate that the lasers would hurt Thor?

Originally posted by Placidity
I don't think the side for the Machines has agreed they are immune at all. I see all of them as susceptible, and only Hulk surviving due to healing factor.

Lol. But 100,000^100,000 spit balls would drown you.

I see it more like fire ants vs a large bird.

Well no, wasn't implying that Thor and Hulk are immune. Just that more of something doesn't necessarily mean it's going to now harm where it couldn't before as some default.

Though Thor and Hulk being immune to what amounted to as being a plasma cutter makes more sense. It's not like the Sentinals were slicing through the ship hulls like butter, it was taking time.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Derp

Again you have succeeded missing the point entirely derp. You just flat out said "literally" nothing can hurt thor.... you dont know how a vs forum works.
And btw,YOU have to prove he is immune. I dont have to prove hes not. If i told you i could jump 10 feet in the air, and you said i couldn't, the burden of proof would be on me. And ill bet you anything all you're gonna do now is give a brief response, that neither proves anything or is even relevant. Maybe another stupid question.

Originally posted by omgchos
Again you have succeeded missing the point entirely derp. You just flat out said "literally" nothing can hurt thor.... you dont know how a vs forum works.
And btw,YOU have to prove he is immune. I dont have to prove hes not. If i told you i could jump 10 feet in the air, and you said i couldn't, the burden of proof would be on me. And ill bet you anything all you're gonna do now is give a brief response, that neither proves anything or is even relevant. Maybe another stupid question.

Where did I say that "nothing" can hurt Thor?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Derp

Thats all you ever say derp "odin's staff is pure magical force and thor tanked it" is your default response. And you just sat there and said there is literally no reason to assume the machines can hurt thor. Basically saying thor is invincible is like your motto in these forums. And what did i say about short answers?