Thor Vs Gladiator

Originally posted by -Pr-
We also take in to account personality.

I guess if We take into account his personality which is often portrayed in comics as not exploiting his full potential, then We might as well just say, this is a comic book fight.

The faster character will have to slow down in order to present a decent fight because that is how he has been portrayed over the years.

In the particular case of Gladiator who is a warrior, I don't see how his personality will prevent him to use his power at full potential in a warrior vs warrior match, but since comics often slow down speedsters to make comics longer than a single page. Not using their full speed becomes part of their modus operandi. So no matter how much potential they have to use their speed they will not use it, because they simple don't show it in comics.

Since Glads is fighting with handicap and He has always lost with this handicap Thor wins.

But by numbers and potential Glads should win more often than not.

Originally posted by biensalsa

But by numbers and potential Glads should win more often than not.

Based on what? Glads being faster? Glads using his full potential combat speed?

Well yeah sure. If you just ignore Thor's full potential of powers then that's exactly what would happen.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Based on what? Glads being faster? Glads using his full potential combat speed?

Well yeah sure. If you just ignore Thor's full potential of powers then that's exactly what would happen.

Originally posted by biensalsa

If this is a fight in which you take into account reaction capabilities of microseconds, nanoseconds and such. It means a character can react at microseconds but the other guy at nanoseconds is effectively 1,000 times faster than the microseconds guy, with the same strength packing punch or above.

I don't think I can defeat a guy who moves 1000 times faster than myself who hits as hard as me but if anyone does, feel free to do so.

Second
decisecond
centisecond
millisecond Human speed of thought 300 milliseconds
microsecond
nanosecond
picosecond
femtosecond Flash reaction time is 1 trillion times faster than average humans at his highest showing IIRC
attosecond
zeptosecond
yoctosecond

So make your own calculations and come to what ever conclusion you might want.

If You think Thor can perform a gods blast in a nanosecond, be my guest.

^ And exactly where in that response have you accounted for the full potential of all the powers at Thor's disposal?

Again:

Originally posted by Me
Based on what? Glads being faster? Glads using his full potential combat speed?

Well yeah sure. If you just ignore Thor's full potential of powers then that's exactly what would happen.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ And exactly where in that response have you accounted for the full potential of all the powers at Thor's disposal?

Again:

You don't get this do you?

What ever power He might have is rendered basically useless if the other guy is moving 1000 times faster. For the guy moving 1000 times faster everything that Thor does is, being done in slow motion.

He has plenty of time to dodge and move around Thor's attacks, how is He going to counter that?

let me give an example of how perception works

This is a humming bird at 30 frames per second, human brain is wired to process 30 fps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n71TgeWXd0

This is another hummingbird at 600 fps your perception has been increased 20 times, do you see a difference?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdmTBjhZmyc&feature=relmfu

^ trololololol lololol!

seriously, stop trolling.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Also on panel evidence of Thor being decidedly superior to Gladiator. 👆

Thor fought the real Gladiator once and was amazed at his power. Get over yourself. If Gladiator would have used a percentage of his speed, Thor would have been rocked. As for the fight, I'm giving this to Thor...Gladiator is above him but his cockyness will be his downfall.

Originally posted by biensalsa
I guess if We take into account his personality which is often portrayed in comics as not exploiting his full potential, then We might as well just say, this is a comic book fight.

The faster character will have to slow down in order to present a decent fight because that is how he has been portrayed over the years.

In the particular case of Gladiator who is a warrior, I don't see how his personality will prevent him to use his power at full potential in a warrior vs warrior match, but since comics often slow down speedsters to make comics longer than a single page. Not using their full speed becomes part of their modus operandi. So no matter how much potential they have to use their speed they will not use it, because they simple don't show it in comics.

Since Glads is fighting with handicap and He has always lost with this handicap Thor wins.

But by numbers and potential Glads should win more often than not.

In 90% of the fights Gladiator has been in, he has used his speed.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Based on what? Glads being faster? Glads using his full potential combat speed?

Well yeah sure. If you just ignore Thor's full potential of powers then that's exactly what would happen.

Why debate against a character you know nothing about? Gladiator has nano second fts.

Originally posted by carver9
In 90% of the fights Gladiator has been in, he has used his speed.

Yes at full potential? or has He being slowed down to make the comic longer?

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
^ trololololol lololol!

seriously, stop trolling.

If that is the only thing you can do, keep at it.

I have not seen anything from you that suggest you are a serious debater, the only thing I have seen from you is flaming posting.

Your trolling is so bad that even in threads were Superman is not in you put him in this is from What if WBH? thread:

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
supernman dies screeming like a pussy

Lol where in the Hell Superman was mentioned in that post?

Originally posted by biensalsa
Yes at full potential? or has He being slowed down to make the comic longer?

No, he always blitz. He blitz Nova, blitzed Wonderman (and almost took his head off), blitzed Thing, blitzed Human Torch, blitzed Hyperion, blitzed Cannonball, blitzed Reed Richards, blitzed Masterson, blitzed Rachel and a Phoenix, blitzed Rachel again...and the list goes on. He utilize his speed in all of his battles, so it is a common thing for him.

He just doesn't consistently use it like here.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WOK03-021.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WOK03-022.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WOK03-023.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WOK03-024.jpg

He doesn't walk around in a blur.

Originally posted by biensalsa
You don't get this do you?

What ever power He might have is rendered basically useless if the other guy is moving 1000 times faster. For the guy moving 1000 times faster everything that Thor does is, being done in slow motion.

He has plenty of time to dodge and move around Thor's attacks, how is He going to counter that?

No it's you who just doesn't get it.

I've said 2 or 3 times "Are you not going to allow Thor to use his fullest potential like your adamant on Gladiator doing?"

And each time instead of asking "What potential" you've just carried on with your speed rant!

Thor could be flying at speeds approaching Light (or faster) with the aid of Mjolnir. And it won't necessarily just be "travel" speed. So how will that look like Thor being forzen in time.??

Thor could send Light speed energy attacks in all directions. So how will those attacks be moving in slow motion to Gladiator??

Thor can send the full power of Tornadoes from a thousand worlds combined in all directions which would I'm sure at least slow Gladiator down.

Thor could be INSTANTLY teleporting all over the place (if you want to use the full potential of characters powers never actually displayed). Will he still look frozen in time to Gladiator??

And all this on top of the fact that Thor CAN PERCEIVE Speedsters. He can perceive Objects moving beyond Light Speed. And has reaction time has been quantified in Micro-seconds. (Yes slower than nano-seconds but fast enough to react to a blitz).

Now are you going to keep up this charade of this imaginary scenario where Gladiator (and/or any heavyweight speedster) uses their speed beyond the fullest potential ever displayed in combat, while not allowing Thor the same privelage (of using his full array of powers to their up most potential)???

Originally posted by biensalsa
Yes at full potential? or has He being slowed down to make the comic longer?

I see where you are going with this but no, he doesn't use it at full potential but people saying that he possibly won't use it in a forum battle is wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
Why debate against a character you know nothing about? Gladiator has nano second fts.

It amazes me you think Glads will speed blitz Thor, and yet Supes can not speed blitz the Hulk.

As for your comment, we're talking about Thor responding to a Blitz from Glads, so Glads reaction feats are not really that relevant imo.

What is relevant is the speed Glads can move at and if Thor can react to such movements. And if he can't initially, then how many hits will he take before he can??

Originally posted by biensalsa
Yes at full potential? or has He being slowed down to make the comic longer?

While this is true:

Character A not using FTL blitzes in comics much (if at all) =/= Character A not being able to do it in comics.

Protesting the very material these characters inhabit as being "compromised" is a patent false dichotomy:

Character A not using FTL blitzes in comics much (if at all) =/= Character A being purposefully dumbed down by comic authors.

Now you can try to argue against all that (good luck) but the following statement should not be controversial:

Character A not using FTL blitzes in comics much (if at all) = there being little on-panel proof that Character A will use FTL blitzes by any reliable measure in a KMC forum fight.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It amazes me you think Glads will speed blitz Thor, and yet Supes can not speed blitz the Hulk.

As for your comment, we're talking about Thor responding to a Blitz from Glads, so Glads reaction feats are not really that relevant imo.

What is relevant is the speed Glads can move at and if Thor can react to such movements. And if he can't initially, then how many hits will he take before he can??

When did I say Gladiator would win? When did I say he would win via speed blitz? I already gave Thor the win.

Thor will get blitzed but I don't think it will happen in the fashion that most believe. Heralds doesn't fight like that consistently so Thor WILL be hitting him.

Originally posted by carver9
When did I say Gladiator would win? When did I say he would win via speed blitz? I already gave Thor the win.

Thor will get blitzed but I don't think it will happen in the fashion that most believe. Heralds doesn't fight like that consistently so Thor WILL be hitting him.

Fair enough, but just so you know I got that impression from this:

Originally posted by carver9
If Gladiator would have used a percentage of his speed, Thor would have been rocked.

And this:

Originally posted by carver9
Why debate against a character you know nothing about? Gladiator has nano second fts.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Fair enough, but just so you know I got that impression from this:

And this:

If Gladiator fought at nano second speeds, how could Thor compete? Even though he has nano second fts, that doesn't mean that he will use it in a forum battle since he rarely fight that fast. Like I said, he will use his speed but he will not use it in the fashion that others are saying, he is hittable and Thor WILL hit him.