Thor Vs Gladiator

Originally posted by country1000
Gladiator held that girl to draw thor out..lol As for the rest of your post, people know the context of those fights, thor had and needed help in every fight. BUT YOU FORGET THAT for known reasons. Oh, and he failed to kill thor by WRITERS CHOICE. The writers are not members of this site, they cannot help thor here, kind of like how they helped spidy beat firelord.lol

AKA Gladiator is a coward who needs every advantage possible to try and beat Thor.

What help did Thor need in order to beat Gladiator? Post scans or cite issue numbers. I have the issues in question, so it won't be much trouble to find what it is you're talking about. 🙂

lol @ this writer's bullshit excuse. So all of Gladiator's feats don't count because the writer's wanted him to break apart a giant space rock and be clocked at flying 100 times lightspeed?

LMFAO @ equating Thor's epic ass kicking of Gladiator (twice, I might add) to being on the same level as Spider-Man/Firelord.

Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Darth, it doesn't work like that. If I post a scan of Vulcan flying at superluminal speeds but failing to catch a bullet, would you understand the meaning of the scans?

Thor flying around with Mjlonir guiding him at light speed doesn't mean his.reactions is that fast. Firelord flying around at light speed doesn't mean his reactions is that fast. Ironman flying from Earth to the sun in mid sentence doesn't mean his reactions is that fast. Terrax flying around at 99% the speed of light doesn't make his reactions that fast.

All of this is simple...if Gladiator use his nano second reflexes, flight speed when the battle starts, Thor will not stand a chance. Again, Gladiator doesn't fight like this so it doesn't matter...he will lose.

I understand this Carver. But despite Thor's reactions having been quantified in the micro-seconds in the past, you don't think him flying around around at Light speed while blasting Light speed Omni-Blasts and/or teleporting all over the place, would help when fighting a Light speed speedster?

You gave the example of Iron man.. Well I personally do think Iron Man's supersonic speed, and Light speed energy blasts would help him a lot in a fight against say Classic Quicksilver.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
AKA Gladiator is a coward who needs every advantage possible to try and beat Thor.

What help did Thor need in order to beat Gladiator? Post scans or cite issue numbers. I have the issues in question, so it won't be much trouble to find what it is you're talking about. 🙂

lol @ this writer's bullshit excuse. So all of Gladiator's feats don't count because the writer's wanted him to break apart a giant space rock and be clocked at flying 100 times lightspeed?

LMFAO @ equating Thor's epic ass kicking of Gladiator (twice, I might add) to being on the same level as Spider-Man/Firelord.

PREACH BROTHER JAKE!! 😂

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Originally posted by h1a8
Read the forum rules again. It says,

[b]Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

See the bold parts. This rule was specifically stated because in comics a character doesn't always fight at full capacity. If we don't allow a character to use their full capacity (as shown before) then all we accomplished was handicapping them. A handicapped Gladiator loses to Thor soundly. [/B]

and.......

show the cis rule. where it states characters will fight IN CHARACTER. in character, glads has never used his supposed superman-esque combat speed. he blitzes. he does not combat blitz. he would certainly blitz thor in a forum fight. but...so what? his blitz only worked because of the 60sec issue thor still had. not a problem. assume he even separated thor from his hammer again. that didn't work out very well for angrir/thing......

fact is, his speed IS taken into account in a forum fight--in the manner it is most often shown. he would blitz thor, get in a couple shots, thor would take them as he always does and reply then the fight would procede and thor would pummel him, like he always does.

and it's hilarious how many cry about how glads is dummied down by writers, but the only thing thor ever does with glads is hit him in the face repeatedly. not sure how many know this, but....thor has other powers. he is just dummied down by the writers when he fights glads. if he wasn't the fights would be over too quickly. 😐

Originally posted by leonidas
and.......

show the cis rule. where it states characters will fight IN CHARACTER. in character, glads has never used his supposed superman-esque combat speed. he blitzes. he does not combat blitz. he would certainly blitz thor in a forum fight. but...so what? his blitz only worked because of the 60sec issue thor still had. not a problem. assume he even separated thor from his hammer again. that didn't work out very well for angrir/thing......

fact is, his speed IS taken into account in a forum fight--in the manner it is most often shown. he would blitz thor, get in a couple shots, thor would take them as he always does and reply then the fight would procede and thor would pummel him, like he always does.

and it's hilarious how many cry about how glads is dummied down by writers, but the only thing thor ever does with glads is hit him in the face repeatedly. not sure how many know this, but....thor has other powers. he is just dummied down by the writers when he fights glads. if he wasn't the fights would be over too quickly. 😐

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"Forum Fight" doesn't mean you can cannibalize feats and just make shit up based on hypothetical guess work on how someone might be able to use their given power in some sort of way. All the forum does is remove plot device and plot stupidity (ie. civilians getting in the way for the hero to save or enchantments which no longer apply in this case). Otherwise you may as well say screw the comics altogether and just debate hypothetical power sets and how they'd apply in the real world under real world logic and physics.

And if Gladiator was "dumbed down", Thor was functionally retarded based on everything we've actually seen him do on panel.

And for Gladiator's sake, I hope no one wants to go into a high end feat war concerning him and Thor.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

And if Gladiator was "dumbed down", Thor was functionally retarded based on everything we've actually seen him do on panel.

And for Gladiator's sake, I hope no one wants to go into a high end feat war concerning him and Thor.

Exactly!

Thor flying drop kicks Gladiator's head off

Thor

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Also on panel evidence of Thor being decidedly superior to Gladiator. 👆

That too.

Originally posted by janus77
Gladiator's cool, Thor's an ass, we support Gladiator? 😕

Cool ain't shit, tbh.

Originally posted by biensalsa
I guess if We take into account his personality which is often portrayed in comics as not exploiting his full potential, then We might as well just say, this is a comic book fight.

The faster character will have to slow down in order to present a decent fight because that is how he has been portrayed over the years.

In the particular case of Gladiator who is a warrior, I don't see how his personality will prevent him to use his power at full potential in a warrior vs warrior match, but since comics often slow down speedsters to make comics longer than a single page. Not using their full speed becomes part of their modus operandi. So no matter how much potential they have to use their speed they will not use it, because they simple don't show it in comics.

Since Glads is fighting with handicap and He has always lost with this handicap Thor wins.

But by numbers and potential Glads should win more often than not.

that is only if you assume that Gladiator is too fast for Thor, which a lot of people don't.

Originally posted by leonidas
and.......

show the cis rule. where it states characters will fight IN CHARACTER. in character, glads has never used his supposed superman-esque combat speed. he blitzes. he does not combat blitz. he would certainly blitz thor in a forum fight. but...so what? his blitz only worked because of the 60sec issue thor still had. not a problem. assume he even separated thor from his hammer again. that didn't work out very well for angrir/thing......

fact is, his speed IS taken into account in a forum fight--in the manner it is most often shown. he would blitz thor, get in a couple shots, thor would take them as he always does and reply then the fight would procede and thor would pummel him, like he always does.

and it's hilarious how many cry about how glads is dummied down by writers, but the only thing thor ever does with glads is hit him in the face repeatedly. not sure how many know this, but....thor has other powers. he is just dummied down by the writers when he fights glads. if he wasn't the fights would be over too quickly. 😐

You don't understand the CIS rule do you? CIS has nothing to do with the frequency a character using one of his MAIN powers. For example, It's not in Superman's character to kill, so he would hold back a bit. But that doesn't mean Superman is barred from using speed because he can and has. But it is in Gladiator's character to use speed in a fight because he can and has.

If a character does a main power in a comic then it is in their character to do, otherwise they wouldn't have done it. Glads has blitz opponents multiple times in comics. Glads has proven to not only blitz his opponents but fight and operate at ftl speeds (like when fighting hyperion). This is one of his main powers and not some exotic super rare power (like the ones Thor has).

Understand CIS and Full Capacity. They don't contradict each other.

There goes that h1 and his posts again.

I need to stop clicking them. 😐

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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"Forum Fight" doesn't mean you can cannibalize feats and just make shit up based on hypothetical guess work on how someone might be able to use their given power in some sort of way. All the forum does is remove plot device and plot stupidity (ie. civilians getting in the way for the hero to save or enchantments which no longer apply in this case). Otherwise you may as well say screw the comics altogether and just debate hypothetical power sets and how they'd apply in the real world under real world logic and physics.

And if Gladiator was "dumbed down", Thor was functionally retarded based on everything we've actually seen him do on panel.

And for Gladiator's sake, I hope no one wants to go into a high end feat war concerning him and Thor.

See that's not what's being done here. Why the hell will Glad not choose to use his speed, especially when he is losing? Because writers don't want him to win at times.

Why in the forum rules did it explicitly imply that flash can and will clock his opponents out at full speed in a forum fight but we know he very well doesn't do that in a comic (the forum rule even states that he doesn't in comics, yet says he can here in the forum).

It's clear as day. Full capacity is always on.
CIS implies the stupidity and the easily understood purposeful choosing of not operating a certain way.

Originally posted by h1a8
See that's not what's being done here. Why the hell will Glad not choose to use his speed, especially when he is losing? Because writers don't want him to win at times.

Why in the forum rules did it explicitly imply that flash can and will clock his opponents out at full speed in a forum fight but we know he very well doesn't do that in a comic (the forum rule even states that he doesn't in comics, yet says he can here in the forum).

It's clear as day. Full capacity is always on.
CIS implies stupidity and nothing else.

Not really.

Lol half the posters on this site have no idea what context is

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not really.

You right, I edited it. I added

CIS implies the stupidity and the easily understood purposeful choosing of not operating a certain way.

Originally posted by h1a8
You right, I edited it. I added

CIS implies the stupidity and the easily understood purposeful choosing of not operating a certain way.

Not always. And it's not stupidity not to endanger lives.

Something I haven't seen brought up (I only browsed, granted) is the fact that even if we grant a speed edge to Gladiator, he'd still be able to be hit by lightning, which has none of Thor's potential speed problems. A couple solid hits from the lightning and Kallark would be stunned and eating some hammer.

So even if we grant Glads his dubious speed edge, that's a helluva equalizer. All the "Thor wasn't written well either" comments are mostly about this, though we could also draw from his more exotic powers and having him creating dark matter and magical barriers around himself to ward off attacks.

Originally posted by Digi
Something I haven't seen brought up (I only browsed, granted) is the fact that even if we grant a speed edge to Gladiator, he'd still be able to be hit by lightning, which has none of Thor's potential speed problems. A couple solid hits from the lightning and Kallark would be stunned and eating some hammer.

So even if we grant Glads his dubious speed edge, that's a helluva equalizer. All the "Thor wasn't written well either" comments are mostly about this, though we could also draw from his more exotic powers and having him creating dark matter and magical barriers around himself to ward off attacks.

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
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