Originally posted by carver9
If Gladiator fought at nano second speeds, how could Thor compete? Even though he has nano second fts, that doesn't mean that he will use it in a forum battle since he rarely fight that fast. Like I said, he will use his speed but he will not use it in the fashion that others are saying, he is hittable and Thor WILL hit him.
Originally posted by carver9
If Gladiator fought at nano second speeds, how could Thor compete?
Well IF Glads fought at nano second speeds then Thor possibly COULD compete IF he was also flying around at Light Speeds (with the aid of Mjolnir), IF he used Omni-Directional Light Speed Attacks, IF Thor used his teleportation to it's up most ability and IF he did all this using his Mirco-Second reaction time.
But btw just for the record are you admitting that IF Supes fought at nano second speeds then Hulk could not compete??
Originally posted by Hulkbuster1
thor can compete by amping his power through odin force or by going psycho warrior madness
Thor can compete period but if Gladiator is moving around at nano second speeds, Thor will not have the time to amp anything. He will be getting bust in the face by high Herald level strength 100s of time before even realizing the bell rung and this goes for Hulk as well. Too bad Gladiator doesn't fight like this. With that said, due to Gladiator being a cocky idiot majority of the time, Thor wins 8/10.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Well IF Glads fought at nano second speeds then Thor possibly COULD compete IF he was also flying around at Light Speeds (with the aid of Mjolnir), IF he used Omni-Directional Light Speed Attacks, IF Thor used his teleportation to it's up most ability and IF he did all this using his Mirco-Second reaction time.But btw just for the record are you admitting that IF Supes fought at nano second speeds then Hulk could not compete??
You don't know what nano second speed is.
As for your second question, if Superman have COMBAT fts of fighting that fast then yes, Hulk wouldnt be moving either. Hulk can take a punch better than Thor imo.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Gladiator wins. He would have won before when he kicked the hammer out of Thor's hand. He would have beat him if it wasn't for the help of Thor Girl and Amora.Gladiator is faster hands down. It's cis he dosen't fight at full speed.
That wasn't the real Gladiator that Thor fought, that was a Glads from the future. Thor and Glads fought once and it ended in a stalemate.
Originally posted by carver9
You don't know what nano second speed is.
So Thor teleporting or flying around at Light speeds or using Omni-Directional Light speed attacks, would not make a difference to Light speed attacks from Gladiator?
Note how I even added "Possibly" COULD
Btw are you saying Nano-second speed is way beyond Light speed?
Originally posted by carver9
As for your second question, if Superman have COMBAT fts of fighting that fast then yes, Hulk wouldnt be moving either. Hulk can take a punch better than Thor imo.
And Thor has better versatility to handle high level speedsters imo.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So Thor teleporting or flying around at Light speeds or using Omni-Directional Light speed attacks, would not make a difference to Light speed attacks from Gladiator?Note how I even added "Possibly" COULD
Btw are you saying Nano-second speed is way beyond Light speed?
And Thor has better versatility to handle high level speedsters imo.
Darth, it doesn't work like that. If I post a scan of Vulcan flying at superluminal speeds but failing to catch a bullet, would you understand the meaning of the scans?
Thor flying around with Mjlonir guiding him at light speed doesn't mean his.reactions is that fast. Firelord flying around at light speed doesn't mean his reactions is that fast. Ironman flying from Earth to the sun in mid sentence doesn't mean his reactions is that fast. Terrax flying around at 99% the speed of light doesn't make his reactions that fast.
All of this is simple...if Gladiator use his nano second reflexes, flight speed when the battle starts, Thor will not stand a chance. Again, Gladiator doesn't fight like this so it doesn't matter...he will lose.
Originally posted by Hyperion PrimeThat fact gets overlooked because thor needed living lightnings help, he needed thor girl and amoras help and above all he needed reeds speed amp to even be fast enough to work with the FF to steal weapons. If gladiator attacks thor the same way he attacked him when thor was amped by reeds tech, gladiator would destroy thor every time.
Gladiator wins. He would have won before when he kicked the hammer out of Thor's hand. He would have beat him if it wasn't for the help of Thor Girl and Amora.Gladiator is faster hands down. It's cis he dosen't fight at full speed.
LOL at people calling thor superior to someone who hits just as hard or harder and is stronger and a MILLION times faster and has had thor beat EVERYTIME they fought until thor NEEDED help from outside help. Then on top of that, the writers protect thor from death in the comics against gladiator anyway. This is a Forum fight. If gladiator can kick thors hammer away and KO thor across the sky for 60 second, then what do you think he can do in a non-biased forum fight?? You are very correct Hyperion prime.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor fought the real Gladiator once and was amazed at his power. Get over yourself. If Gladiator would have used a percentage of his speed, Thor would have been rocked. As for the fight, I'm giving this to Thor...Gladiator is above him but his cockyness will be his downfall.
Eric Masterson almost killed him. Thor beat the shit out of a future Gladiator who had prep, was willing to kill him, and took a hostage in the process. The sooner you can accept these facts, the sooner we can move on.
Lol, you're giving this match to Thor....but Gladiator is above him?
GTFO.
lol, I like how people *cough*country1000 and Carter*cough* conveniently forget that Gladiator attacked Jake Olsen first and took a hostage because he was too cowardly to fight Thor straight up.
I also like how they conveniently forget that Thor was holding back the majority of the fight and after they saved the plane from crashing - due to Gladiator's idiocy - Thor pummeled him into oblivion. Unfortunately, some of us actually have the comic itself on hand.
Gladiator literally had the entire plot working in his favor and couldn't beat Thor. He attacked Thor's mortal vessel, took Mandy as a hostage, temporarily disarmed him and exploited a weakness which no longer applies to current Thor, and still failed to achieve his goal, which was to kill Thor. But, yeah, Gladiator didn't use his speed to maximum potential so he was jobbing and he wasn't fully confident or some other lame ass excuse.
Oh, well, at least Gladiator agrees when he's outmatched.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Eric Masterson almost killed him. Thor beat the shit out of a future Gladiator who had prep, was willing to kill him, and took a hostage in the process. The sooner you can accept these facts, the sooner we can move on.Lol, you're giving this match to Thor....but Gladiator is above him?
GTFO.
Masterson got that a** tapped ending with Gladiator standing above him laughing. Masterson hits a laughing Gladiator in the back with lightning which stuns him. Masterson takes advantage of this opportunity. If Gladiator would have took advantage of his attack on Masterson, Masterson that couldn't even get up during the time because his legs went out from a punch from Glads, Masterson would have died.
Lol...Thor fought a Gladiator that we have no idea on his power level. When you realize this, then you'll truly understand comics.
Sin...shut the h*** up.
Originally posted by carver9
Masterson got that a** tapped ending with Gladiator standing above him laughing. Masterson hits a laughing Gladiator in the back with lightning which stuns him. Masterson takes advantage of this opportunity. If Gladiator would have took advantage of his attack on Masterson, Masterson that couldn't even get up during the time because his legs went out from a punch from Glads, Masterson would have died.Lol...Thor fought a Gladiator that we have no idea on his power level. When you realize this, then you'll truly understand comics.
Sin...shut the h*** up.
Gladiator was almost killed by Masterson. Wonder Man and Vision literally had to get him to stop otherwise he would have straight up died. Gladiator being an idiot and not fighting like how you'd want him to doesn't detract from that statement.
Yeah, we do. Stop being dense. He was obviously intended to be on a holding back Thor's level of formidability, which is still in the range of mid/high herald. Thor just can kick it up to another level Gladiator can't.
The sad thing is that I actually do both read AND understand comics, which is why I'll always be one step ahead of you.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Gladiator at full potential should be based on what we actually see in the comics. This is how strength, durability, superpowers, weaknesses and fighting skills are measured. Speed isn't anything different. It should never be and that's only fair. Throwing around time measurement errata doesn't obfuscate that.While this is true:
[b]Character A not using FTL blitzes in comics much (if at all) =/= Character A not being able to do it in comics.
Protesting the very material these characters inhabit as being "compromised" is a patent false dichotomy:
Character A not using FTL blitzes in comics much (if at all) =/= Character A being purposefully dumbed down by comic authors.
Now you can try to argue against all that (good luck) but the following statement should not be controversial:
Character A not using FTL blitzes in comics much (if at all) = there being little on-panel proof that Character A will use FTL blitzes by any reliable measure in a KMC forum fight. [/B]
Read the forum rules again. It says,
Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.
See the bold parts. This rule was specifically stated because in comics a character doesn't always fight at full capacity. If we don't allow a character to use their full capacity (as shown before) then all we accomplished was handicapping them. A handicapped Gladiator loses to Thor soundly.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankGladiator held that girl to draw thor out..lol As for the rest of your post, people know the context of those fights, thor had and needed help in every fight. BUT YOU FORGET THAT for known reasons. Oh, and he failed to kill thor by WRITERS CHOICE. The writers are not members of this site, they cannot help thor here, kind of like how they helped spidy beat firelord.lol
lol, I like how people *cough*country1000 and Carter*cough* conveniently forget that Gladiator attacked Jake Olsen first and took a hostage because he was too cowardly to fight Thor straight up.I also like how they conveniently forget that Thor was holding back the majority of the fight and after they saved the plane from crashing - due to Gladiator's idiocy - Thor pummeled him into oblivion. Unfortunately, some of us actually have the comic itself on hand.
Gladiator literally had the entire plot working in his favor and couldn't beat Thor. He attacked Thor's mortal vessel, took Mandy as a hostage, temporarily disarmed him and exploited a weakness which no longer applies to current Thor, and still failed to achieve his goal, which was to kill Thor. But, yeah, Gladiator didn't use his speed to maximum potential so he was jobbing and he wasn't fully confident or some other lame ass excuse.
Oh, well, at least Gladiator agrees when he's outmatched.
Originally posted by country1000I am going to give you a fair warning. Tread carefully. If you continue to persist the hammer will be effectively dropped on you.
Gladiator held that girl to draw thor out..lol As for the rest of your post, people know the context of those fights, thor had and needed help in every fight. BUT YOU FORGET THAT for known reasons. Oh, and he failed to kill thor by WRITERS CHOICE. The writers are not members of this site, they cannot help thor here, kind of like how they helped spidy beat firelord.lol