Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You can't just pick and chose which fights you like and which you don't. In this case, High herald speedsters have used their speed against Thor. It just wasn't portrayed in the way you would like it to be.
When High Heralds used their speed against Thor it didn't look good for him. When they didn't use their speed against him it didn't look good for them.
With that said, Not only can we pick and choose within reason but everyone already does (EVERYONE here does). Characters have full capacity here and there is no mentioning of PIS. That alone allows us to pick and choose.
Spider-man beating Hulk with a random machine with gamma rays has nothing to do with what will happen in a forum fight. Thus we choose not to use that scene as proof that Spidey can beat Hulk. I can go on and on but I think you should get my point now.
But it's happened too often and too consistently to be considered PIS. It's just the rules of comics concerning Thor vs speedsters.
Often and consistently are irrelevant and subjective terms. Just because a character doesn't use their speed against Thor in comics doesn't mean that they won't in a forum fight. Many here are trying to make forum fights into 100% comic fights (or what will happen in a comic book).
In comics both characters rarely fight at their very best.
Again this is subjective (most non speedsters fight at their best or close). Also fighting at one's best implies MAIN POWERS (not rare exotic ones). Speedsters rarely fight at their best because EVERYONE KNOWS (even the writer) that if they did then not only would they be highly unbeatable but they would win too quick.
And we've told you time and time again the kind of power and versatility Thor could show if fighting at his very best. That's not something that only benefits high level speedsters.
Speed is greater than versatility and power. What good are those things if you don't have the time necessary to use them properly (or at all)?
If this was Gladiator vs Hulk then you'd have a good argument. Their one fight could be counted as PIS'ish, with Gladiator's speed not really used and Hulk having no versatility or extra power set to deal with such.
But CONSISTENTLY Thor has fought Hulk and other relatively slow beings while both were basically almost the same speed in combat against each other. Remember that versatility or extra power is not very effective against someone using great speed against you. Also, I can argue that since there exist a real character reason why Thor don't use his versatility much (he is a warrior that loves to fight) and while Glads don't use his speed because of writer's preference (not because of his character) means that in a typical forum fight Thor pretty much is not going to be very versatile against someone like Glads (just hammer throws, lightning, and melee) while Glads is going to use his speed.
But with Gladiator vs Thor?? Your playing the speed card in a whole different league.
Why does speed trumps all? Because it has a time manipulation element in it. Speed allows one to purposely slow down their opponent giving the speedster a huge advantage.