Originally posted by DARTH POWERDarth, gladiator was koed at the end of that fight. He lost in the end. You know, the hero gets knocked around and then make a dramatic come-back thing.
Oh yeah I see what you mean. Kind of like when Gladiator attacked the Fantastic Four in their own comic but he just couldn't beat them up due to the comic code.He couldn't beat The Thing or The Human Torch or The Invisible Woman or Mr. Fantastic. Because they were all heroes, so that's why they all beat on him one by one.
Originally posted by country1000I could write a post about how that doesn't apply, nor has it for like 40 years, however, let's stick with simplicity here.
Do you not understand that marvel has kept the hero must win clause because they dont kids to think that bad is over good??? Your post only proves my point. They now rate comics as you have shown, not change the hero win thing, nice of you to own yourself fella.Thanks.
That's not a rule anymore. You're arguing about something that doesn't exist.
Originally posted by Sr J-BiebIt still exist and is still used. Marvel will not turn on the kids who look for their heros to win. Guess what happens to sales if they do.? DC blows them out the water fast.
I could write a post about how that doesn't apply, nor has it for like 40 years, however, let's stick with simplicity here.That's not a rule anymore. You're arguing about something that doesn't exist.
Originally posted by country1000It doesn't exist. Marvel dropped the Code of Authority.
It still exist and is still used. Marvel will not turn on the kids who look for their heros to win. Guess what happens to sales if they do.?
If you want to see the new system, it's at the end of the last page.
It's why Thanos can destroy everyone, and Dr Doom can punk Hulk with no consequences.
Originally posted by country1000The new system has no rules. That's why it doesn't have rules. Which explains why what you're talking about was never mentioned.
The new system ONLY sets an age limit thing. Marvel is not dumb enough to lose money they get from millions of hero fans. mostly kids and teens.
Marvel is also not dumb enough to keep referencing a non existant rule that was dropped from their company.
Or ignore countless cases of Villians succeeding.
Originally posted by country1000
Yet the earth remains in human control. Killing a mainstream hero is not heroic.
If it's to prevent millions of death's caused by said hero yes it is. Are you saying he needs to let the war that happens when Thor moves Asgard to Earth happen and the people die for it to be the right thing to do? 😐 Let it go.
Originally posted by country1000
And in the end what happened? What happened to WBH in the end? Where is asgard now?
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He didn't lose either. He went back in time to make Thor change it.
WBH, or WWH?
Because after WWH beat everybody, they managed to defeat him once after he let Iron Man hit him with a plot device super weapon.
Gladiator has never had the honors of beating everybody he's fought in a mini and losing to an inanimate super weapon, and Hulk was a pretty big villian in that arc too.
Asgard is around and kicking and ruled by Gaia, Freya, and Idunn...
I'm really not sure where you were going with that one.
Originally posted by Sr J-BiebBINGO!! Thors not ruling, asgards not on earth and the kiddies are happy.
WBH, or WWH?
Because after WWH beat [b]everybody, they managed to defeat him once after he let Iron Man hit him with a plot device super weapon.
Gladiator has never had the honors of beating everybody he's fought in a mini and losing to an inanimate super weapon, and Hulk was a pretty big villian in that arc too.Asgard is around and kicking and ruled by Gaia, Freya, and Idunn...
I'm really not sure where you were going with that one. [/B]
Originally posted by country1000lol
BINGO!! Thors not ruling, asgards not on earth and the kiddies are happy.
Anyway times Gladiator lost as a hero off the top of my head, and these are all against villians:
In The End when all the Shi'ar were wiped out
Against Black Cloak
When Cass Nova made him piss his pants
Against Tyrant
Against Champion
Against the Eldest
😆 c'mon guys, he's clearly trolling. no one could ACTUALLY be as stupid as he is pretending to be. basically, his argument is this--it would be bad for the youth of the world to see gladiator beat thor in a fight!
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yeah, that would be devastating!! can you imagine what people would think??? kids everywhere crying, losing faith in the world, turning to evil and shying away from good because they would suddenly know that goodness is only a fragile thing...... the horror.
all because marvel allowed gladiator to beat thor. seriously, when i think his posts absolutely can NOT get any dumber, he digs a new sub-basement in stupidity.....
i'll go out on a limb and say if gladiator beat thor in a fight, the world, and it's youth, would probably make it through that particular darkness.
i am curious though--what about all the dead heroes in the history of marvel? they weren't heroic enough for the now-defunct code to apply to them? i am in absolute awe of the unprecedented stupidity on dislplay in this thread. 😖hock:
Originally posted by leonidas
😆 c'mon guys, he's clearly trolling. no one could ACTUALLY be as stupid as he is pretending to be. basically, his argument is this--it would be bad for the youth of the world to see gladiator beat thor in a fight!😆
yeah, that would be devastating!! can you imagine what people would think??? kids everywhere crying, losing faith in the world, turning to evil and shying away from good because they would suddenly know that goodness is only a fragile thing...... the horror.
all because marvel allowed gladiator to beat thor. seriously, when i think his posts absolutely can NOT get any dumber, he digs a new sub-basement in stupidity.....
i'll go out on a limb and say if gladiator beat thor in a fight, the world, and it's youth, would probably make it through that particular darkness.
i am curious though--what about all the dead heroes in the history of marvel? they weren't heroic enough for the now-defunct code to apply to them? i am in absolute awe of the unprecedented stupidity on dislplay in this thread. 😖hock:
You just don't understand. The Marvel Earth is still there and spinning so every "loss" by any hero is simply to make plots more dramatic. Because EVENTUALLY everything turned out just fine like it always has.
oh and yeah I hope he is trolling. I've heard some crazy stuff but never for such a sustained time like this.
Originally posted by carver9
I corrected your error and I think you are enjoying warning me. It's ok though, I will be a mod before I get banned.
Don't start. Seriously.
You've been told about peddling your Vulcan misrepresentations before. This is the third time I've had to tell you. There probably won't be a fourth at this rate.
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Also, just in case anyone wasn't clear about it, the "hero always wins" isn't an excuse, nor a valid argument when a character gets beaten. period. guys like Thanos, Darkseid, Luthor AND Gladiator, have enough feats to establish a baseline of power and ability. If they get their ass kicked by the hero without PIS or CIS/CIP necessarily being involved, then they just got their ass kicked. Simple as that.
And, preemptively, before anyone says "but the hero always winning is PIS in itself", read arcs like Final Crisis, Half of the X-Men stuff ever published, Secret Invasion and so on and so forth.
Evil gets enough chances to show what it can do. Sometimes the heroes are just good enough to win.