So much spite.
Quartermain and Nemo get sniped by Hawkeye.
Hulk rips Hyde to pieces.
Sawyer gets some Black Widow crotch in his face before he gets taken down.(I'd happily trade with him, btw)
That just leaves Dorian, Vampirella and Invisible Guy.
Dorian's immortal, but he can be hurt and presumably ko'd or electrocuted into submission.
The vampire lady gets lightning striked to death.
Invisible Guy shows up on Iron Man's sensors and goes down.
Such a stomp.
Originally posted by KingD19
Thor showed arc lightning capabilities. If she turns into a flock of bats, they all get sizzled. If she stays normal, she just gets beaten to a pulp.
You can interpret it a few ways, but since you believe the lightning will only KO Gray, it should at most have the same effect on Nina. She is immortal as well afterall barring staking, sunlight etc.
BTW, I remember the "lightning arc" only affects the general vicinity, not hit specific targets.
Originally posted by Placidity
You can interpret it a few ways, but since you believe the lightning will only KO Gray, it should at most have the same effect on Nina. She is immortal as well afterall barring staking, sunlight etc.BTW, I remember the "lightning arc" only affects the general vicinity, not hit specific targets.
Gray is immortal in the way that all age and damage that befalls him is transferred to his picture. He stood up to a machine gun at point blank range and healed in around 30 seconds, but he experiences pain and he does bleed, shown by Mina stabbing him in the back and testicles and then the gut. That leads to believe that he experiences damage like a normal person. So a lightning strike would probably affect him just like a normal person and flash fry him and ko him. He'd heal, but he'd be out of the fight.
She's immortal and can heal, but Dorian's blade caused her pain during their fight, and a stab in the chest immobilized her and "killed" her until Dorian removed his sword, and while she's strong, her agility and speed aren't superhuman in a fight. Thor's lightning would do the same to her and probably worse since flames would more than likely be her end.
He can also summon lightning pretty quick and the flock tends to fly closely together.
Originally posted by KingD19
Gray is immortal in the way that all age and damage that befalls him is transferred to his picture. He stood up to a machine gun at point blank range and healed in around 30 seconds, but he experiences pain and he does bleed, shown by Mina stabbing him in the back and testicles and then the gut. That leads to believe that he experiences damage like a normal person. So a lightning strike would probably affect him just like a normal person and flash fry him and ko him. He'd heal, but he'd be out of the fight.She's immortal and can heal, but Dorian's blade caused her pain during their fight, and a stab in the chest immobilized her and "killed" her until Dorian removed his sword, and while she's strong, her agility and speed aren't superhuman in a fight. Thor's lightning would do the same to her and probably worse since flames would more than likely be her end.
Let me see if I understand you:
- Gray is immortal
- Gray has a healing factor but experiences pain
- Gray can only be killed via "painting"
* Nina is immortal
* Nina has a healing factor but experiences pain
* Nina can only be killed via vampiric weaknesses.
You say Thor can only KO Gray, but can kill Nina with lightning BECAUSE it may create a fire, which is possibly a vampiric weakness? Just asking.
Thor can only KO gray because his can't die as long as his painting survives and he doesn't see it. Mina wasn't absolutely sure about her immortality. She told him something along the lines of, "you're unable to die, maybe I am too."
She doesn't have anything other than her own body to heal her, so maybe the extremely high temperatures of the lightning zapping her consistently set her ablaze and it's too much for her to handle. Or maybe if she gets zapped in bat form she dies. I dunno, it's a possibility. But she can be immobilized and KO'd too, as she basically died when Dorian stabbed her, and it wasn't through her heart, as she said he'd missed it when he stabbed her.
Regardless, both of them can be handled without too much trouble because despite their healing factors, their physical stats aren't too impressive. Kinda like Wolverine.
Originally posted by ImpedimentGray just stands there and gets pummeled to no end, but still doesn't win.
He's ageless and has a superb healing factor, but his durability is still pretty much human. Hulk or Thor would turn him into a wet-spot with a single hit. I imagine one of Tony's various mini-missile would liquify him as well.
Originally posted by KingD19
So much spite.Quartermain and Nemo get sniped by Hawkeye.
Hulk rips Hyde to pieces.
Sawyer gets some Black Widow crotch in his face before he gets taken down.(I'd happily trade with him, btw)
That just leaves Dorian, Vampirella and Invisible Guy.
Dorian's immortal, but he can be hurt and presumably ko'd or electrocuted into submission.
The vampire lady gets lightning striked to death.
Invisible Guy shows up on Iron Man's sensors and goes down.
Such a stomp.
Good post.
Though I don't see Thor electrocuting Nina so easily. I see her possibly reaching Cap, BW or HE and attacking them.
Nina is probably the most effective member on the team. But there is only so much she can do to the grounded Avengers before the heavy hitters mop up everyone.
If she stays in her human form a lightning strike or hammer will will do wonders. In her bat form if the flock stays together, the lightning will arc between them. As for reaching Cap, Widow or Hawkeye, it once again all hinges on how she goes about it. They'd have a hard time with bats(unless Hawkeye just got a lucky shot with an explosive arrow), but her human form's combat skills aren't all that great.