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A) So, again, you have resorted to gimping Bauer of his feats. How pathetic 😂
B) Doesn't mean shit. Bauer's feats are better, and McClane can jack off in a dark corner with his "lone-wolfness". The fact that I have said this in about 10 posts already and you are still trying to pimp it out like a 70-year old transvestite hooker (along with past failed arguments, such as the "tazer" one) just proves how much of a reprehensible moronic troll you are making yourself out to be.
LOLOLOLOLOL Says the biggest ignorer of evidence on these boards...and the biggest troll and the most moronic of them...
You are too hypocritical to be taken seriously, Susan... now get back in that kitchens and make Daddy some muffins, b!tch.
Keep your tears out of the mixing bowl too.
Better to be the "lone wolf" than the CTU dependant cissyboy. McClane won ages ago: Deal with it.
It hasn't been a debate for many a page, since little scaredy Susan refused to look at the evidence and stamped her little feet and screamed above all voices trying to tell her the truth. She just repeats whatever objection you have to her lunatic patterns of denial, trollery and verbal abuse back at you as if you had been the one to do it.
Shes the intellectual equivalent of a total vacuum and evidently has completely lost her few remaining marbles..
The tazer argument never failed once. And certainly not "Just because she says so".
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
LOLOLOLOLOL Says the biggest ignorer of evidence on these boards...and the biggest troll and the most moronic of them...
You are too hypocritical to be taken seriously, Susan... now get back in that kitchens and make Daddy some muffins, b!tch.Keep your tears out of the mixing bowl too.
Better to be the "lone wolf" than the CTU dependant cissyboy. McClane won ages ago: Deal with it.
What's that, McBottomB!tch? No evidence still to prove McClane's win here still? Thats A OK. Just go on with your nonsensical irrelevant trolling. You embarrass no one but yourself 🙂
And look, just like I said, a reprehensible moronic troll who is still recycling a bullshit argument that was already proved completely irrelevant to the outcome of this thread.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It hasn't been a debate for many a page, since
........you've been trolling like an idiot since page 1
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The tazer argument never failed once.
Yeah, it did, you trolling liar. Right here:
Originally posted by Lestov16
You are strawmanning because you are bringing up a scenario whichA) Has nothing to do with McClane
, considering that the tazer in question was SEEN ONSCREEN to knock a man unconscious in 2 seconds, which leads to
B) Is [b] Horrendously false
C) Is Horrendously retarded, as you are referencing a time in which Bauer had a tazer held on his heart for 10 seconds. That would flatline anybody, including McClane. You would have to be a dumbass with no knowledge of the human body whatsoever to not know this.
D) Is Horrendously Ignorant, considering that a more hardened and experienced Bauer has later feats of withstanding 20 months of this:
YouTube video
And resisting their interrogation out of sheer willpower to the point of Not uttering a single word, so it's not like Bauer can't tank tazer electricityBut instead of comparing some speculative bullshit, let's focus on REAL COMPARATIVE DURABILITY FEATS, AKA the fact that Bauer took two knife wounds to the abdomen and a bullet to the torso and was still able to wrestle people to the ground and walk away from the scene. McClane took a bullet to the same area and fell immediately, and was helpless to stop Gabriel from lifting him, only gaining just enough strength to shoot the bullet into himself.
Unlike your bullshit scenario, this is actually comparable, not to mention this is both characters at their final appearances. So yeah
Bauer has better feats, no matter what way you look at it. Bauer wins. Stop being a retarded McTroll about it and concede. [/B]
I've posted this many times and you just blatantly ignore it? And then insult my intellectual capacity? B!tch please 😂 Bauer clearly wins this thread.
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Honestly, I can see either of them winning, depending on the setting and the goal.
Setting: WWE Ring
Goal: H2H fight to the death
Setting: Empty 42nd St. Subway Station
Goal: Gunfight
Setting: Initech Office Building
Goal: Melee
And before making your decision regarding any of those categories, just consider this about Bauer and McClane:
Originally posted by Lestov16
H2H Bauer kills him effortlessly. Bauer massively outclasses him in fighting skills (snaps necks with ease, both with his hands and feet, and even snapped man's neck by running up all wall). McClane had to struggle and fall down a flight to stairs to accomplish the same. McClane struggles horribly in all of his H2H fights.Also disagree about Damage soak. Bauer has a way higher pain tolerance than McClane. The Chinese tortured him for 20 months with the intent of getting info out of him:
Bauer didn't say a single wordout of sheer willpower and then proceeded to kill 50 people in the 24 hours period of his return, without any rest.
In another proof of Bauer's superior durability to McClane, in LFODH, McClane was shot in the torso and fell to the ground immediately. He was only able to shoot Gabriel because Gabriel, like a dumbass, decided to carry him.
Bauer received a gunshot to roughly the same area and two knife wounds to the abdomen, and was still able to tackle a Delta Force soldier to the ground while tied up and then walk away from the sceneAnd of course, the face that Bauer rips out people's throats with his teeth 🙂
Gunfight Bauer has shown pinpoint precision in his shots, to where he can shoot the guns out of peoples hands, shoot the locks off doors (while wearing a heavy mask), and even shoot down assault helicopters. And not that pussy "shoot-the-wire" stuff either....Alright fine, that shot McClane made was impressive, but still, doesn't change the main point. Bauer and McClane are about equal in accuracy and given that Bauer is a former black ops soldier, I believe he has the edge
MeleeJust look at LFoDH, when he tries to employ melee against Mai Lihn and gets near-instantly disarmed. McClane is only good in melee if his opponent is distracted. Bauer on the other hand has genuine melee feats of using everything in his vicinity from chains, to axes, to screwdrivers, to syringes, to backhoes, to his opponents tie, to even biting. Given how easily McClane got disarmed, I'm certain Bauer would maul him, and given that McClane doesn't get to retaliate with a vehicle after getting BFRed, I'm not seeing him win this
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This is the conclusion I came up with after examining all of their feats. Maybe there's some variables I'm not looking at, or some feats of McClane's I'm not remembering, but I'm 98% sure that after considering the aggregate sum of both Bauer's and McClane's feats, this is the logical outcome. If there is something I'm not seeing, could you please explain it to me?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Its already been addressed Susie. Repeatedly. Go back and read through.
Quote them then. Otherwise what you are saying is utter bullshit and you are a trolling liar
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Good to see that you know its your name, by the way..
Yea. You called me a girl's name. I bet you are really proud of yourself. You pat yourself on the back
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And no. By saying you had a single digit IQ I wasn't insulting you, I was bolstering you up from your true figure of zero.
Again, keep patting yourself on the back. I'm so glad that you think that some dumb quip will supplement the fact that you can't comprehend basic evidence out of sheer ignorance. Yep, keep patting......
Bauer wins 24/7
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Bauer.50/50.
McClane.
May I ask why you think McClane wins the melee? He has onscreen weaknesses of getting disarmed easily in DH4, and Bauer has proven feats of mauling opponents in melee (look at Abu Fayed's death). Bauer also has better durability and better H2H skills. I think combined Bauer should get a decisive win in melee. But then again, that's why I'm asking you.
As far as the gunfight, I edged it to Bauer because of Bauer's combat experience, but yea it's about even for them.
Why should I do your work for you...your assumption is as false as anything you could imagine...trying to blackmail me into restating that which has been stated so verily and repeatedly...grow up.
Its more attention whoring from you, basically.
Requoting has done you zero good.
Well you have earned it by behaving like spoilt little girly brat throughout these threads, Susie.
You can talk! You INVENTED the form. Invented it, pioneered it, championed it and dragged it out long after having been called on it.
Your conclusion is absurdly delusional.
McClane wins all day both in situ, and by virtue of the fact that Bauer doesn't even qualify here in the 1st place.
(He may have doen in your other butthurt threads in the AVF, but after he lost and you flipped they were closed..)
Bauer is NOT more durable than McClane.
McClane never died even once.
Karl would probably have killed Bauer H2H.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthBauer is NOT more durable than McClane.
McClane never died even once.
But Jack win the day in season 2 with a damaged heart. He was incredibly handicapped and still won the day. And dont forget that the only reason Mac did not die is because he had others saving his life for him.
Karl would probably have killed Bauer H2H.No, Jack was better than Karl. Jack was running up walls, matrix style, snapping necks.
Originally posted by Lestov16
😆What a bullshit misleading and nonsensical analogy. McClane needs less resources because he only has to cut down branches, compared to Bauer, who has to uproot entire trees in comparison
Bauer takes on [b]farrrrrrrrrrrrrr
more complex and dangerous threats and situations than McClane and thus requires more resources..Are you saying McClane could withstand the eight 24 days without any of the resources Bauer had? 😂 What crap
Not that it matters anyway, as the amount of resources they used means nothing when Bauer clearly has better irrefutable H2H, (equivalent) gunfight, melee, and counter-terrorism feats than McClane. Nothing you say and no bullshit you spew changes these blatant facts.
Bauer wins this thread. Sure, he may have used more resources, but he has better feats, and that's all that matters. McClane can go jack off in a corner with his "Lone-wolfness" 🙂 [/B]
Incorrect.
Arguable, but at least you're agreeing now that Bauer does receive a lot more help. That's a step in the right direction.
No, McClane would likely need an Al, Zeus or Farrell, as is his standard support requirements. But if you're asking, McClane + the massive support Bauer has = 24 being cut down to about 2.9 hours. And it'd probably be a blockbuster hit.
incorrect.
Incorrect, McClane wins. Correct, Bauer relies far more heavily on resources and needs to be saved many a time. McClane might just go "jack off", but only after the day's been saved and his enemies have been smote on the side of the express way.