who is stronger Captain america or Beast?

Originally posted by namorsubby
There those cap fans go again making up fake weights to make cap seem stronger than he is. What is the weight of that random, eagle-shaped statue in the scan? Undetermined

Cap is not a 2 tonner. He is not even a 1 tonner.

No, moron, the weight is very easily ball-parked by a calculation based on the material and apparent size of the object.

Not to mention, simple referencing of real life objects whose weights are known.

Since the statue's weight isn't explicitly told to us, we are completely given free reign to come to a conclusion of its weight.

Cap is definitely not a 2 tonner. He's definitely not a 1 tonner either. That's far too weak.

1-2 tons represents the weight range of a small to large sized 4 door car.

And Cap's feats are far above handling things as light as cars. Like, you know, the statue ripping feat I posted already.

Does it bother you, that Cap lives up his physical hype on the forums so thoroughly, with actual feats--unlike some other dude? I know it does. And I enjoy your whining. 🙂

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Does it bother you, that Cap lives up his physical hype on the forums so thoroughly, with actual feats--unlike some other dude?

Who are you talking about here?

Originally posted by red sabre
feats please , and i hope you are reffering to canon stories , as far as i know beast didnt do antyhing above 2 tons

Yes, Im referring to canon stories. I actually never thought Beast having superhuman strength, or Cap having peak human strength, was ever in question. I mean, this thread is kinda like whos faster, Flash or Quicksilver. One can run at lightspeeds, the other like Mach10, this isnt a hard topic to discuss really.

Originally posted by Don Corleone
No way. Never have I seen such a display of strength from Beast. I'm sure he's got strength feats ( I have one of him lifting 500 pounds one handed), but not as high up as you're claiming.

Yes, very possible. 🙂

Originally posted by DTM
Yes, Im referring to canon stories. I actually never thought Beast having superhuman strength, or Cap having peak human strength, was ever in question. I mean, this thread is kinda like whos faster, Flash or Quicksilver. One can run at lightspeeds, the other like Mach10, this isnt a hard topic to discuss really.

Ah, I didnt know that, is that new-ish? Then lets say old school QS then, he has superspeed but is clearly slower than Flash, Cap is very strong but clearly not as physically strong as Beast.

Or let's use current QS, and run with the analogy that shows that you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

If the answer was so obvious, methinks this thread wouldn't have stayed open and took so long to get any scans/feats for Beast.

And really, the stuff that has been displayed isn't out of Cap's range.

Not knowing QS can now run lightspeed means I dont know what Im talking about, even though about 90% of those speaking on this thread seem to agree with who Im supporting here?

Chill out man, no need to be so rude here, these are supposed to be for fun.

Oh, don't worry.

I'm still having fun.

Officially, Beast is stronger than Cap. In comics, Beast should be stronger than Cap. But it's Captain America. Because that's his name, he gets to do stuff that other people who are billed in the same range as him and sometimes slightly higher aren't capable of. Kinda like Batman hurting Wonder Woman or Darkseid with a kick just because he's Batman.

In a forum fight/contest though, all PIS/CIS/Wank aside, Beast is stronger.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
No, moron, the weight is very easily ball-parked by a calculation based on the material and apparent size of the object.

Not to mention, simple referencing of real life objects whose weights are known.

Since the statue's weight isn't explicitly told to us, we are completely given free reign to come to a conclusion of its weight.

Cap is definitely not a 2 tonner. He's definitely not a 1 tonner either. That's far too weak.

1-2 tons represents the weight range of a small to large sized 4 door car.

And Cap's feats are far above handling things as light as cars. Like, you know, the statue ripping feat I posted already.
Does it bother you, that Cap lives up his physical hype on the forums so thoroughly, with actual feats--unlike some other dude? I know it does. And I enjoy your whining. 🙂

Tell me what lead you to conclude that that statue weighed between 6-7 tons. Oh yeah, your raging cap boner.

you couldn't come close to providing anything concrete to support that made up estimation. If you guys are simply going to make up numbers as high as you desire for caps strengh feats then he's as strong as youre imagination dictates.

The fact is there is nothing legit to suggest cap could lift 2000lbs over his head, much less double that.

Even if that statue was solid all the way through. It had to be light enough for a group of men to move into position. It might have weighed a ton or two, but it's not incredibly heavy. It's a small statue.

Beast can and has easily lifted and thrown cars. He is definitely stronger then cap. Which makes perfect sense seeing as hes ranked higher in strength.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

Who are you talking about here?

😆 You sure showed him Dad ✅

Originally posted by namorsubby
Even if youre the peak of human potential strengh wise that does not make you super humanly strong. If it is within human potential it is not beyond human capability you moron. Super human strength is.

When you make up fake imaginary weight measurements for "your" feats you can make whoever youre siding with seem as strong as you want. However cap is no where near any of those ridiculous made up numbers strengh wise.

Please take the time to learn about characters you include in threads. Beast is not simply stated at a higher level of strengh, but he is actually stronger. His lowest level of 2 tons is higher than cap alone. He's been upgraded several times. No one would have to spoon feed you feats to prove his general strength level if you actually knew the character. But for good measure, look at what some of the feats these nice people have mentioned within this thread.

you dumbass why do you keep repeating Cap is peak human? who said he is peak human? your wiki collection did? your ignorance is just ignorant Lol, i dont care what some 30 20 year old bio say i care about feats and how writers constantly portraying the character and Cap by feats is a super human so i dont give a **** where you came from with the peak human crap but going by feats Cap is a legit super human

blah blah blah beast had upgrades blah blah blah, i will repeat it again specially for special people like yourself, do you have feats for beast to suggest he is indeed stronger than Cap by strength? because as of right now all i heard is " he is stronger because he is super human"

me: can someone please show me feats of beast being superior to Cap in strength?
namorsnubby : **** you i aint showing you nothing beast is super human and cap is peak human thats it
me: but if we look at feats and consistant portrayel Cap is Super Human and beast didnt present any feats that i am aware off that put him above cap
namorsnubby: i said i dont give a crap beast is super human and cap isnt i dont need to prove anything

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime

nice feats but how do you know to what degree beast helped them? maybe they did together 99% and beast only added the 1% that needed to overpower those bars?

beast punching someone out is a greater strength feat than Cap has? really? do i need to show who Cap can take out in a fighting? Lol do i need to show captain america owning beast himself in a fight? lets stick to strength feats and not fighting feats

beast in the beginning of his career was suppose to be the powerhouse of the x men team however marvel droped that idea very fast, so even if beast got some feats that i can count on 1 hand that show me being a powerhouse i still think its invalid to use them since it was a different and long time ago portrayel of the character, beast those days is not even half of what he was during that very very very short run

Originally posted by DTM
Yes, Im referring to canon stories. I actually never thought Beast having superhuman strength, or Cap having peak human strength, was ever in question. I mean, this thread is kinda like whos faster, Flash or Quicksilver. One can run at lightspeeds, the other like Mach10, this isnt a hard topic to discuss really.

then you wont have any problem proving it right? go ahead then

Originally posted by red sabre
nice feats but how do you know to what degree beast helped them? maybe they did together 99% and beast only added the 1% that needed to overpower those bars?

beast punching someone out is a greater strength feat than Cap has? really? do i need to show who Cap can take out in a fighting? Lol do i need to show captain america owning beast himself in a fight? lets stick to strength feats and not fighting feats

beast in the beginning of his career was suppose to be the powerhouse of the x men team however marvel droped that idea very fast, so even if beast got some feats that i can count on 1 hand that show me being a powerhouse i still think its invalid to use them since it was a different and long time ago portrayel of the character, beast those days is not even half of what he was during that very very very short run

Do you have any idea who Frenzy is?