Originally posted by Kazenji
Yeah because people can accept an alien invasion happening & Norse gods walking around but not that..... 🙄
If Ironman was the versatile character from the comic books I would accept it.
And your examples are also extremely downgraded representations, which the Mandarin would've had to become as well.
Ben Kingsley has filmed another Marvel project
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/10/22/ben-kingsley-has-already-filmed-another-marvel-movie-project/
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I'd actually find Mandarin with alien super tech rings a lot more viable than fire breathing, super healing mutated humans.Would be even more viable if (just for the movie) Manadarin was seeking the Arc reactor technology to power up his alien tech.
Well the fire breathing thing was from the original Extremis arc.
Actually the whole point of Extremis was adaptive soldiers who could take on high level opposition.
The film just downplayed Extremis. Which it would the Mandarin if they decided on using the ring bearing version.
I'm not opposed to IM3 having such a Mandarin. But with such a script I was happy with the twist.
I just wasn't happy with replacing Stark with Potts in being the receiver of Extremis. It felt like a last minute script re-write. Especially considering Downey requested Paltrow get more action scenes in the sequel.
Originally posted by Lestov16
The Mandarin's comic backstory would have worked fine here (the 10 rings coming from an alien spaceship part; they would probably need to update his motivations though)
Considering that there really wasn't any thorough explanation to the, "mandarins" abilities I think any backstory would have worked.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Ben Kingsley did an exemplary job playing fake Mandarin, however, I think the role would have had more power and reverence had there been no twist.
That's my view on it as well. I didn't mind the twist, but I would have definitely preferred if they played the Mandarin straight throughout. He still could have been a pawn of Killian. This is not due to loyalty to the comics, but merely because I was digging the hell out of Kingsley as this ominous, intimidating terrorist. It's like finding out that Hannibal Lecter was a party clown who was framed for the cannibal murders. It completely robs the menace of the character.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Considering that there really wasn't any thorough explanation to the, "mandarins" abilities I think any backstory would have worked.
Indeed. As I stated, I would have preferred if Mandarin was a real terrorist, but still Killian's puppet. At least that way you aren't making your most intimidating villain a punk bytch.
BTW, where the phuck was Captain America and SHIELD during the finale? I know the Winter Soldier situation is important, but you'd think the POTUS about to be flamed grilled over an oil pit might take some precedence over that. It's very odd that after 2 films with heavy SHIELD presence, they are not even mentioned in this film.
It's one of those movies that you can see and enjoy while watching it, but as soon as it's over, you realize the overwhelming stupidity of it all. I didn't hate the film, but I sure as hell am not anxious to rewatch it. RDJ really had to carry virtually the entire film on his back. His acting is the only thing that elevates this above a Fantastic Four-level film.
Yea, as long as you can watch the movie without thinking there is some enjoyment to be had. I hate to be so critical with movies like this but when so much is invested in them and when everyone involved takes the story so serious I think everyone has to be critical. I think i'm also tired of seeing RDJ as, Stark.
Ben Kingsley's secret project
The real Mandarin
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=89219#0OWduODqPjV7bXKe.99
According to sources, Marvel wants to make it up to fans so in the one shot, the REAL Mandarin is furious with Aldrich Killian and Ben Kingsley’s character Trevor Slattery for the mockery they made of the real Mandarin’s identity and legacy. The real Mandarin wants to set the record straight.
The twist, upon first viewing was alright. Funny even. But upon second viewing, it seemed very forced. Now, RDJ, Guy Pearce and Ben Kingsley are all great actors. They did a good job with their presence here. But it's surprising how much I enjoyed the film less on a television versus big screen, and re-evaluating some of the developments.
However, I agree with Neph that Stark's PTSD was the highlight of the movie and they needed to work on that more.