Silver Surfer vs Hulk

Started by abhilegend6 pages

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Hulk even touching surfer would be PIS of epic proportions. There's a reason they don't even meet up that often in comics and why there are very important details involved as to why hulk ever lays a finger on him. Surfer has way too many options. While hulk has one. Punching.

CIS is still on. Surfer isn't a blitzing type of character outside of CBR.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Considering a SATELLITE drained him, what makes you think the SS couldn't?

Considering it was intelligencia's plot device weapon which drained hulk, not tony's satelite its moot.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Hulk even touching surfer would be PIS of epic proportions. There's a reason they don't even meet up that often in comics and why there are very important details involved as to why hulk ever lays a finger on him. Surfer has way too many options. While hulk has one. Punching.

mophucka...you're wearing the wrong ranger as your set.

There is no way to argue that WWH wasn't drained. You can call it anything you want, it's a fact.

1) Satellites have drained WWH.

2) SS has drained Hulk before.

3) SS is more powerful than satellites.

There is simply no way to argue that SS can't drain WWH. Arguing otherwise is just being dishonest.

Oh, and arguing plot devices in WWH storyline...well...that entire arc was a piece of crap...so that fits in nicely with it.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
There is no way to argue that WWH wasn't drained. You can call it anything you want, it's a fact.

1) Satellites have drained WWH.

2) SS has drained Hulk before.

3) SS is more powerful than satellites.

There is simply no way to argue that SS can't drain WWH. Arguing otherwise is just being dishonest.

Oh, and arguing plot devices in WWH storyline...well...that entire arc was a piece of crap...so that fits in nicely with it.


Surfer is more powerful than satellites?
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SS would beat WWH
but likely lose to WBH if he didnt resort to the real exotic stuff.

SS at his best? Easy

Surfer

Originally posted by abhilegend
CIS is still on. Surfer isn't a blitzing type of character outside of CBR.

He doesn't have to blitz. But at his BEST surfer doesn't even get touched while he's free to use the power cosmic at his will.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
mophucka...you're wearing the wrong ranger as your set.

Would you prefer the white one? 😛

Surfer isn't matching either in a physical contest and isn't draining either Hulk, at least not for a KO there's far too much radiation. Savage Hulk was able to resist being devolved by High Evolutionary and every Hulk has feats of resisting transmutation, the more rage-filled the Hulk the harder he is to manipulate and there are none angrier than WBH or WWH.

That being said Surfer at his best should beat WWH through a combination of his powers (not sure how seeing as though Sentry couldn't and no BFR) but WBH is definitely a level too high for Surfer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer's lack of combat speed feats?

Irrelevant if he fights smart, with even a marginal percentage of his power set.

I think SS could drain any Hulk. He already drained the Hulk before. And as Pillar said, satellites did drain the Hulk. He could make a black hole right on top of him and drop him in. He could fly around Hulk so fast that the Hulk couldn't touch him (he searched the entire Earth in seconds). He's used telepathy on the Hulk before. He could fly into space and use telepathy on him until he broke him down. Surfer's telepathy has a galactic range. Hulk couldn't even get to him. He could stay out in space and blow up the earth. Sit in orbit and blast the Hulk until he's dead. He can phase. he can teleport. He can go back in time before the Hulk went WBH and kill him. How the hell can the Hulk win?

Originally posted by keiththegreat
How the hell can the Hulk win?

He can call upon the power of the Fanboy Force 😉

The whole worldbreaker thing seems a bit ridiculous anyway. Not that he isn't powerful, but it's like they threw a parade for Hulk when he finally produced a high-end feat that starts to compete with Surfer's best.

Considering the fact that Surfer very recently drained the old power out of Skaar, and sealed it away into the planet, draining Hulk should be feasible. Skaar during that fight was amped by his entire home world's old power (enough power to satisfy Galactus' hunger for 100,000 years). Unless you think WWH has that much energy in him at a given time, then draining Hulk's energy is within current Surfer's capacity. Not sure about World Breaker Hulk though.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Surfer isn't matching either in a physical contest and isn't draining either Hulk, at least not for a KO there's far too much radiation.

Based on what? Do you know something about the upper limit of the radiation the SS can absorb that I don't?

Here's what the satellites did to WWH after DRAINING HIM:

Originally posted by The Sorrow

Savage Hulk was able to resist being devolved by High Evolutionary and every Hulk has feats of resisting transmutation, the more rage-filled the Hulk the harder he is to manipulate and there are none angrier than WBH or WWH.

That being said Surfer at his best should beat WWH through a combination of his powers (not sure how seeing as though Sentry couldn't and no BFR) but WBH is definitely a level too high for Surfer.

What makes you think Sentry failing to beat WWH has anything to do with the Surfer being able to? First, Sentry fought like a moron. Second, SS is far more versatile than the Sentry.

Surfer in both and without much difficulty.

Savage Hulk and WWH are two different beings. The rate in which WWH gains energy is much higher than the rate of Savage Hulk. SS can possibly drain WWH but it is iffy. And wasn't the energy absorb from WWH is what created Rulk? And didn't Rulk absorb SS. So again SS draining WWH is iffy. Especially if WWH doesn't just sit there and allow it to happen. SS was grabbing on to Savage Hulk's hands when he did it the first time. So I don't see it going down like that again.

With that said, SS beats WWH but loses to WBH unless he stays away and black hole WBH or something nasty like that.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Surfer in both and without much difficulty.

SS wins in the second only if he employs very rare and exotic tactics (like black holes). Otherwise, he won't be able to affect WBH at all.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Based on what? Do you know something about the upper limit of the radiation the SS can absorb that I don't?

Here's what the satellites did to WWH after DRAINING HIM:

What makes you think Sentry failing to beat WWH has anything to do with the Surfer being able to? First, Sentry fought like a moron. Second, SS is far more versatile than the Sentry.


First off there is a huge difference between WWH and Savage so using that first scan where Surfer (who was amped) drained him as definitive proof it works on WWH is a fail in and of itself. Secondly the satellites drained Hulk after he allowed it to because he wanted to be stopped. As has been shown everytime anyone has attempted to drain him since, it won't work if he doesn't allow it.
Darwin tried and failed (he also stated Hulk's radiation had no end), Red Hulk completely drained Surfer himself and Savage Hulk but couldn't when he tried to against WWH, Arm'Chedon successfully defeated Surfer by using his own power against him this same tactic failed against WWH.

If you read my post I gave Surfer the benefit of the doubt and gave him the win over WWH because of his very exotic powers. Sentry has more raw power than Surfer so I don't see him simply blasting Hulk into submission. Some of the methods I have seen in this thread for those pro Surfer have never even been done on panel and are completely out of character.