Silver Surfer vs Hulk

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer should never be touched by anyone save Galactus 😖hifty:.

That said, he is, C/PIS permits characters like Thor to compete with Surfer, so why rule out such C/PIS for this situation?

Hulk would wreck Surfer, in either WWH or WBH mode, if Surfer was tangible (and even as energy, he would be tangible to Hulk), but Surfer can/should be able to keep WWH at bay and work a stalemate.

Having the fight in a wormhole or any such thing would be bad for Surfer, as it is on-panel proven that even pre-GreenScar, Hulk was durable enough to shrug off the effects of a powerful wormhole that knocked Surfer out for days.

On-top of this, Hulk is pretty much immune to heat and cold as much as (if not more than) the Surfer, so taking the fight to the sun wouldn't guarantee a victory either.

Surfer should outlast Hulk as WWH/WBH is just a mode of operation for Banner and eventually he will grow bored and weaken/lose interest.

The only way I see Surfer 'winning' is if he were to merge with WWH/WBH and just mentally takeover control of the amalgam. He's done it to Skaar, so he can obviously control members of the gamma family, but it might be that WBH is just too 'angry' for Surfer to calm down ....

I read this a couple times for the lulz. I'm convinced it's all sarcasm, but it's damn well hidden. Kudos if that's the case. If it's serious, well, good luck to you.

Originally posted by Digi
I read this a couple times for the lulz. I'm convinced it's all sarcasm, but it's damn well hidden. Kudos if that's the case. If it's serious, well, good luck to you.

Anyway, Surfer can only win via some outlasting or maybe just entrapping Hulk in the microverse... I can't see Surfer winning by blasting or attempting to drain energy (Surfer tires out, has been tired out and Hulk at either WWH or WBH levels is well beyond Surfer given that Rulk wouldn't do it).

🙂

I'm not so sure about that. While I'm personally of the school of thought that in a forum fight Surfer would take a majority over Thor, in a comic and taking their portrayals as peers into account, even post Annihilation and Cancerverse War, Surfer doesn't have the mentality of a warrior necessary to use his powers to the degree it would take to continuously dominate Thor. He has the firepower, lacks the determination and brutality.

Also I'm fairly certain Surfer beats all versions of Hulk shown so far. HotM be damned.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer should never be touched by anyone save Galactus 😖hifty:.

That said, he is, C/PIS permits characters like Thor to compete with Surfer, so why rule out such C/PIS for this situation?

Hulk would wreck Surfer, in either WWH or WBH mode, if Surfer was tangible (and even as energy, he would be tangible to Hulk), but Surfer can/should be able to keep WWH at bay and work a stalemate.

Having the fight in a wormhole or any such thing would be bad for Surfer, as it is on-panel proven that even pre-GreenScar, Hulk was durable enough to shrug off the effects of a powerful wormhole that knocked Surfer out for days.

On-top of this, Hulk is pretty much immune to heat and cold as much as (if not more than) the Surfer, so taking the fight to the sun wouldn't guarantee a victory either.

Surfer should outlast Hulk as WWH/WBH is just a mode of operation for Banner and eventually he will grow bored and weaken/lose interest.

The only way I see Surfer 'winning' is if he were to merge with WWH/WBH and just mentally takeover control of the amalgam. He's done it to Skaar, so he can obviously control members of the gamma family, but it might be that WBH is just too 'angry' for Surfer to calm down ....

If this is serious, I'm not sure you understand what it means to take out PIS/CIS.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If this is serious, I'm not sure you understand what it means to take out PIS/CIS.

Surfer's either trying to prevent some greater calamity (Galactus' Seed ish) or trying to reason with Thor or he's just been depowered and imprisoned on Earth (the early fights).

A sufficiently non-crippled Surfer can three-punch BRB without trouble. Or atomise creatures instantly with a touch.

Originally posted by janus77
It means that whenever Surfer fights Thor, it is the case that Surfer doesn't want to fight and forgets how to fight.

Surfer's either trying to prevent some greater calamity (Galactus' Seed ish) or trying to reason with Thor or he's just been depowered and imprisoned on Earth (the early fights).

A sufficiently non-crippled Surfer can three-punch BRB without trouble. Or atomise creatures instantly with a touch.

...No.

Originally posted by -Pr-
...No.

I don't think he can three punch BRB, but I can see him being a god damn beast.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer should never be touched by anyone save Galactus 😖hifty:.

That said, he is, C/PIS permits characters like Thor to compete with Surfer, so why rule out such C/PIS for this situation?

Hulk would wreck Surfer, in either WWH or WBH mode, if Surfer was tangible (and even as energy, he would be tangible to Hulk), but Surfer can/should be able to keep WWH at bay and work a stalemate.

Having the fight in a wormhole or any such thing would be bad for Surfer, as it is on-panel proven that even pre-GreenScar, Hulk was durable enough to shrug off the effects of a powerful wormhole that knocked Surfer out for days.

On-top of this, Hulk is pretty much immune to heat and cold as much as (if not more than) the Surfer, so taking the fight to the sun wouldn't guarantee a victory either.

Surfer should outlast Hulk as WWH/WBH is just a mode of operation for Banner and eventually he will grow bored and weaken/lose interest.

The only way I see Surfer 'winning' is if he were to merge with WWH/WBH and just mentally takeover control of the amalgam. He's done it to Skaar, so he can obviously control members of the gamma family, but it might be that WBH is just too 'angry' for Surfer to calm down ....

I like this post.

Originally posted by carver9
I like this post.

Because its wrong??

Originally posted by carver9
I like this post.

For you, I'm not surprised.

Originally posted by janus77
It means that whenever Surfer fights Thor, it is the case that Surfer doesn't want to fight and forgets how to fight.

Surfer's either trying to prevent some greater calamity (Galactus' Seed ish) or trying to reason with Thor or he's just been depowered and imprisoned on Earth (the early fights).

A sufficiently non-crippled Surfer can three-punch BRB without trouble. Or atomise creatures instantly with a touch.

Originally posted by janus77

Surfer's either trying to prevent some greater calamity (Galactus' Seed ish) or trying to reason with Thor or he's just been depowered and imprisoned on Earth (the early fights).

Kind of like the time they fought when the SS was amped by Loki to be more powerful than he's ever been before, and then admitted Thor was the one holding back.

Or just recently when Thor was severely injured fighting SS.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris

Or just recently when Thor was severely injured fighting SS.

Surfer any day, twice on sundays.

If Hulk can resist getting maner manip because of his hf active, then what is stop Surfer from just freezing time around hulk so his hf isn't active and just transmuting him from there?

I was reading an old comic where SS flat out said he could cure Hulk. Has that been shown recently?

he did it twice in the same comic

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Surfer any day, twice on sundays.

If Hulk can resist getting maner manip because of his hf active, then what is stop Surfer from just freezing time around hulk so his hf isn't active and just transmuting him from there?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he did it twice in the same comic

He did? I don't remember this

Originally posted by -Pr-
...What?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Lol. Read the Defenders, The Order, Incredible Hulk #250 and Sub Mariner #35. Hulk is regularly shown as stronger than Surfer.

Originally posted by Existere
This quote should be saved.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
He's referring to the numerous instances where a character A has better on panel strength feats than character B, but in a direct confrontation character B is unequivocally depicted as superior to character A despite character A's on panel resume.

Examples being Hulk vs. Zeus, Hulk vs. Thanos, Hulk vs. Titannus, etc

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Prior to Zeus beating Hulk to a pulp what feats of physical strength did Zeus have that, when compared to Hulk's feats of strength, would let you know he would manhandle Hulk physically like that?

Originally posted by biensalsa
WTF Quanicake?