Originally posted by quanchi112
That for starters. Surfer was weakened as well and he isn't a melee fighter like the Hulks is.
Surfer is already a high class 100, even without amping. That's not the case with a depleted Hulk. Hulk powers is to amp, take that away from him and he isn't as strong as a top tier. This doesn't apply to Surfer at all. So overall, your post is boo boo.
What else do you have?
He's referring to the numerous instances where a character A has better on panel strength feats than character B, but in a direct confrontation character B is unequivocally depicted as superior to character A despite character A's on panel resume.
Examples being Hulk vs. Zeus, Hulk vs. Thanos, Hulk vs. Titannus, etc
Originally posted by MF DELPH
He's referring to the numerous instances where a character A has better on panel strength feats than character B, but in a direct confrontation character B is unequivocally depicted as superior to character A despite character A's on panel resume.Examples being Hulk vs. Zeus, Hulk vs. Thanos, Hulk vs. Titannus, etc
But even in those cases, general feats show superiority. It's how we know they're superior.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
He's referring to the numerous instances where a character A has better on panel strength feats than character B, but in a direct confrontation character B is unequivocally depicted as superior to character A despite character A's on panel resume.Examples being Hulk vs. Zeus, Hulk vs. Thanos, Hulk vs. Titannus, etc
When did Thanos over power Hulk? Titannus was draining Hulk during their encounter.
Originally posted by MF DELPHI knew it!
He's referring to the numerous instances where a character A has better on panel strength feats than character B, but in a direct confrontation character B is unequivocally depicted as superior to character A despite character A's on panel resume.Examples being Hulk vs. Zeus, Hulk vs. Thanos, Hulk vs. Titannus, etc
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Originally posted by -Pr-
But even in those cases, general feats show superiority. It's how we know they're superior.
Prior to Zeus beating Hulk to a pulp what feats of physical strength did Zeus have that, when compared to Hulk's feats of strength, would let you know he would manhandle Hulk physically like that?
Originally posted by Digi
So...he destroys the planet he's on, then continues to syphon that much energy into Hulk. Or just jets around picking his shots until he discovers a weakness. Or instead of BFR'ing into the sun, he just makes the damn fight on the fight. Or the black hole to the brain thing Surfer fans love trotting out (or at least a more reasonable variation).It's comic vs. forum fight again. If he uses his powers intelligently, Surfer might have a helluva time putting Hulk down, but he should never be touched or hurt. I literally can't fathom how it would go down otherwise, unless we're just ignoring capabilities and making the fight go in such a way that Hulk could win. What am I missing?
That said, he is, C/PIS permits characters like Thor to compete with Surfer, so why rule out such C/PIS for this situation?
Hulk would wreck Surfer, in either WWH or WBH mode, if Surfer was tangible (and even as energy, he would be tangible to Hulk), but Surfer can/should be able to keep WWH at bay and work a stalemate.
Having the fight in a wormhole or any such thing would be bad for Surfer, as it is on-panel proven that even pre-GreenScar, Hulk was durable enough to shrug off the effects of a powerful wormhole that knocked Surfer out for days.
On-top of this, Hulk is pretty much immune to heat and cold as much as (if not more than) the Surfer, so taking the fight to the sun wouldn't guarantee a victory either.
Surfer should outlast Hulk as WWH/WBH is just a mode of operation for Banner and eventually he will grow bored and weaken/lose interest.
The only way I see Surfer 'winning' is if he were to merge with WWH/WBH and just mentally takeover control of the amalgam. He's done it to Skaar, so he can obviously control members of the gamma family, but it might be that WBH is just too 'angry' for Surfer to calm down ....
Originally posted by janus77
Surfer should never be touched by anyone save Galactus 😖hifty:.That said, he is, C/PIS permits characters like Thor to compete with Surfer, so why rule out such C/PIS for this situation?
Hulk would wreck Surfer, in either WWH or WBH mode, if Surfer was tangible (and even as energy, he would be tangible to Hulk), but Surfer can/should be able to keep WWH at bay and work a stalemate.
Having the fight in a wormhole or any such thing would be bad for Surfer, as it is on-panel proven that even pre-GreenScar, Hulk was durable enough to shrug off the effects of a powerful wormhole that knocked Surfer out for days.
On-top of this, Hulk is pretty much immune to heat and cold as much as (if not more than) the Surfer, so taking the fight to the sun wouldn't guarantee a victory either.
Surfer should outlast Hulk as WWH/WBH is just a mode of operation for Banner and eventually he will grow bored and weaken/lose interest.
The only way I see Surfer 'winning' is if he were to merge with WWH/WBH and just mentally takeover control of the amalgam. He's done it to Skaar, so he can obviously control members of the gamma family, but it might be that WBH is just too 'angry' for Surfer to calm down ....
