Thanos vs. Goku.

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Carver

When Goku hurled Frieza through two islands, it was because he flew into him with a dropkick. That's his best on-panel striking feat and it's certainly not a "punch". Thor w/o the belt of strength Thor-#156, can still shatter mountains.

Originally posted by carver

Marvel and DC hero's can fight in a populated area with no trouble,
DBZ characters can't do this without destroying a city with the slightest of punches.

When has anyone in DBZ destroyed a city with a punch? The reason why they fight in depopulated areas is because DBZ characters use attacks with large AOE.

Originally posted by carver9
So you are basically saying that Master Roshi can take out Frieza with his moon busting attacking? Instead of sending Goku to Namek, they should've sent Master Roshi instead? WTF. Moon busting don't mean a thing to DBZ characters. Just because Superman got koed by a moon busting attack doesn't mean that people like Goku or Frieza can't tank them.

Gohan died when Earth exploded and frankly, nothing points out towards him being able to push through a moon's crust and survive the impending explosion.

Originally posted by Bentley
Gohan died when Earth exploded and frankly, nothing points out towards him being able to push through a moon's crust and survive the impending explosion.

Gohan died because of Buu attack, not earth exploding. Earth vanished after Buus attack, not even a dust mite was visible. That's like me saying...Superman died by some window shattering punches from Doomsday. WTF. Just because some windows were broken doesn't mean we limit it to just that. Buu blast killed Gohan, not the planet's explosion. He was dead before the planet even lit up.

@NES...

So in your opinion Black hair Goku>Cell>Kid Buu since none of them have kicking fts matching that version of Goku. Good to know.

Also, reread the Thor comic...the guy had the belt of strength when he pulled that ft off. Sigh*.

Their physical attacks would lay waste to a city.

Originally posted by carver9
Gohan died because of Buu attack, not earth exploding. Earth vanished after Buus attack, not even a dust mite was visible. That's like me saying...Superman died by some window shattering punches from Doomsday. WTF. Just because some windows were broken doesn't mean we limit it to just that. Buu blast killed Gohan, not the planet's explosion. He was dead before the planet even lit up.

But Gohan didn't really survive a planet destruction, which is my point, you try to lowball the moon feat, yet the DB characters cannot replicate the feat.

Buu's body had to reform out of nothing after that planetary explosion and he could take much better some of the blast Vegeta threw at him during their fight without needing to reform in the same way. So I guess Planetary explosion >>> many attacks from SSJ2 Vegeta and SSJ3 Goku.

Originally posted by carver9

Also, reread the Thor comic...the guy had the belt of strength when he pulled that ft off. Sigh*.

I'm not talking about Pangoria feat, read the refrence carver.

Originally posted by carver9

So in your opinion Black hair Goku>Cell>Kid Buu since none of them have kicking fts matching that version of Goku

Carver, that wasn't a kick, Goku just flew into Frieza feet first. So, it's more of a ram. Anyone who can fly faster than Goku could do the samething.

@NES...

Thor has never crushed a mountain with a punch. Scans please.

Goku kicked him which resulted in Frieza ripping through an Island, Nameks crust, and then another Island. Looking at it from a moving visual aspect, the entire planet was shaking during this kick. This shouldn't be difficult...show me a Herald doing anything similar. You all throwing out these lifting fts are making you look silly...especially when this is a battle, and the characters have been in plenty of fights. If you can't find anything, then concede.

@Bentley...

What's wrong with you? Let's play your game. Superman died by a punch that didn't even destroy the city block they were fighting in.

http://m1180.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/galanpics/dos_supes21.jpg.html?src=www&action=view&current=dos_supes21.jpg

How does that make your lame argument look? Now what we CAN do is say that it was Doomsday power that killed Superman OOOOORRR, we can go the terrible route you are going and say building level power is enough to kill Supes. I can also post Doomsday knocking Superman out by slamming his head into a pillar. I can also post Doomsday koing Superman by slamming his head into a mountain. We know that this is pointless since Doomsday power dropped Superman rather than vice verse.

Also...what makes your argument even worse is, Master Roshi and a Piccolo at a power level lower than 400 destroyed a moon effortlessly. On their best day, they couldn't even put a scratch on Raditz body...I don't even have to use a Super Saiyan. This has been proven on panel. Even though Roshi can effortlessly destroy a moon, that doesn't mean he can harm Frieza. Moon busting power means nothing to elites in DBZ. Hell, Raditz, one of the weakest villains in DBZ could tank that crap. So get out of here with Goku being dropped by ramming his face into a moon because that's a lie.

Planet busting means crap to DBZ characters. On panel it was stated that Saiyan Saga Vegeta could lay waste to a planet. He put everything he had in stock and threw it at Frieza and he was at a MUCH higher level of power and Frieza smiled at that crap. He then got his most powerful blast kicked effortlessly by Frieza pinky toe. Moral of story...its not the planet destruction that's killing any of the DBZ characters, its the power from the enemy that is doing it...common sense. The planet being destroyed is just a side effect. Frieza withstood a planet blowing up on him and he was near death when it happened...Trunk turned Frieza to dust with a casual blast and Earth was still intact. 1+1=2..do the math.

Planet busting means crap to DBZ characters because they're always dying by them.

1. Goku died by Cell self destruct
2. Goku died by Piccolo (it wasn't a planetary blast)
3. Freeza was beaten twice by being cut in half (once by dying and he would have died by his own attack if it wasn't for Goku lending him some of his power).
4. Trunks died by Cell none planet destroying attack
5. Yamcaha died by a none planetary attack and clearly the creator was sending a message that they can't destroy the moon (no point in fighting when you can destroy a huge part of the planet; ever wonder why Master Roshi where sunglasses?)
6. Buu couldn't survive a planetary blasts but he can create one

Find someone who could actually survive a planetary blasts?

I already pointed to one of the weakest surviving a planet explosion "while dying". That was the ONLY time in DBZ someone was in the heart of a planet explosion and it was tanked. Again, its not the planets explosion that is killing the DBZ characters, its the attack.

Cell power killed Goku.
Buu power killed Gohan.
Frieza withstood multiples of planetary attacks...the only time he was damaged was when he faced someone more powerful than him.

Something is wrong with you Vampire. Do you really want me to name what DC and Marvel characters have died from that didn't destroy a planet, let alone a city.

Originally posted by carver9
@Bentley...
Planet busting means crap to DBZ characters. On panel it was stated that Saiyan Saga Vegeta could lay waste to a planet. He put everything he had in stock and threw it at Frieza and he was at a MUCH higher level of power and Frieza smiled at that crap. He then got his most powerful blast kicked effortlessly by Frieza pinky toe. Moral of story...its not the planet destruction that's killing any of the DBZ characters, its the power from the enemy that is doing it...common sense. The planet being destroyed is just a side effect. Frieza withstood a planet blowing up on him and he was near death when it happened...Trunk turned Frieza to dust with a casual blast and Earth was still intact. 1+1=2..do the math.

The only character than survived a planet exploding is Frieza, as you mentioned it, which has more to do (imo) in the physical consitution of his alien body that allows him to survive space than anything else. But of course, he was also pretty much destroyed by Goku before that, so I give it to Frieza, he's one though Muthaf_cker -who then got cut by a sword, meh-. Also, the explosion was an slow one triggered by a chain reaction, I bet that if you throw a super powerful misile -Superman- through the planet's center the explosion would be more violent.

Buu's body was destroyed by a planet exploding? Are you ignoring this? Or are you claiming that Buu blasted himself just for the kicks? Obviously a planet exploding affected Buu up to the point he had to reform and Buu is leagues above your "Roshi" level fighting.

Originally posted by carver9
Something is wrong with you Vampire. Do you really want me to name what DC and Marvel characters have died from that didn't destroy a planet, let alone a city.

I do. I want you to name them and explain the circumstances. I am curious.

Not that it is at all relevant to Thanos, who has withstood beyond planet busting multiple times, or characters who can ****ing destroy galaxies the way I destroy anthills.

And did carver juse use ****ing Death of Superman as evidence against Supes?

Talk about outdated.

Originally posted by Bentley
The only character than survived a planet exploding is Frieza, as you mentioned it, which has more to do (imo) in the physical consitution of his alien body that allows him to survive space than anything else. But of course, he was also pretty much destroyed by Goku before that, so I give it to Frieza, he's one though Muthaf_cker -who then got cut by a sword, meh-. Also, the explosion was an slow one triggered by a chain reaction, I bet that if you throw a super powerful misile -Superman- through the planet's center the explosion would be more violent.

Buu's body was destroyed by a planet exploding? Are you ignoring this? Or are you claiming that Buu blasted himself just for the kicks? Obviously a planet exploding affected Buu up to the point he had to reform and Buu is leagues above your "Roshi" level fighting.

You don't make one bit of sense. Not one bit. Buu power annihilated him and Buu GUI body as shot through by bullets. Using him as evidence isn't good enough. Goku was more durable then Frieza which was shown in their fight and Goku blast blew his face off whereas he withstood a planet shagerring last. Dont know why you are denying this.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do. I want you to name them and explain the circumstances. I am curious.

Thor recently died by a blast that didnt even level a mountain. Lesson...its not the destruction of the blast that matters, it the source. Would you like more?

Originally posted by carver9
You don't make one bit of sense. Not one bit. Buu power annihilated him and Buu GUI body as shot through by bullets. Using him as evidence isn't good enough.

First of all, prove that Buu annihilated himself and it wasn't because of the explosion. If you can prove it I'm honestly wrong, but I didn't see it like that as it was displayed.

Piercing durability isn't impact durability, did Buu get vaporized with every energy beam throw at him? If not, you'd have to assume all those blasts he tanked weren't really all that powerful.

Originally posted by carver9
Goku was more durable then Frieza which was shown in their fight and Goku blast blew his face off whereas he withstood a planet shagerring last. Dont know why you are denying this.

Planet Shattering Blast isn't the same as an actual planet exploding, as Frieza proved because he destroyed a planet, without a planetary level explosion such as the one Superman used. Again, I'm talking about surviving an actual planetary explosion, because you were so quick to call it a "weak feat" -Superman has destroyed moons without being koed, also-, but I don't see any DB character replicating it. I'm talking about actually taking a planet explosion in the face -the character durability-, and not planet destroying blasts -which are related with the planet's durability... And the planet doesn't fight back-. You think this is some lazy weak feat? Prove it. There are examples of that in DB so let's stick to those instead of claiming the blasts are sooooooo powerful when you cannot prove -most of- those blasts are planet destroyers to begin with.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor recently died by a blast that didnt even level a mountain. Lesson...its not the destruction of the blast that matters, it the source. Would you like more?

**** yes, I would like more. A lot more, if you have them. If you have the time, make points like this in cascades.

Originally posted by carver9

Thor has never crushed a mountain with a punch. Scans please.

I said with his hammer and I gave you the issue reference.

Originally posted by carver9

Goku kicked him which resulted in Frieza ripping through an Island, Nameks crust, and then another Island. Looking at it from a moving visual aspect, the entire planet was shaking during this kick. This shouldn't be difficult...show me a Herald doing anything similar. You all throwing out these lifting fts are making you look silly...especially when this is a battle, and the characters have been in plenty of fights. If you can't find anything, then concede.

The planet didn't shake carver, c'mon.

Also, again it's not a kick it's more of a ram or flying kick since he flew into him.

Originally posted by Classic NES
The planet didn't shake carver, c'mon.

Also, again it's not a kick it's more of a ram or flying kick since he flew into him.

I'll tell you a time that Goku caused an entire planet to shake: when he powered up to SSJ3 for the first time. 🙂

And he was trying to be careful.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'll tell you a time that Goku caused an entire planet to shake: when he powered up to SSJ3 for the first time. 🙂


Well, they shake planets by powering up. But not with the blow up their punches.