Thanos vs. Goku.

Started by juggerman17 pages
It was a simple mistake about confusing ssj2 with 1 against Cell, but it still doesn't change the fact that he can not win in a energy battle, because Thanos himself will not allow it to be just purely a long range battle without gaining an advantage, which he has many which was already explained.

Was it also a "simple mistake" when you decided a Kamehameha could never harm Thor because it wasn't "hot enough"?

I actually corrected it by responding that it was a mistake with actual evidence that Goku's Kamehameha won't work. He can try puting Thanos down with the attack, but Thanos doesn't have the paitence or the kind of intelligence to wait for someone to flash attack that will appear to him to be slow enough to dodge or just counter by blasting Goku himself. He won't be summissive in this fight.

Thanks makes Goku do this:

The sad thing is, Thanos attacks wouldn't even touch Goku. Goku has the power to drop Thanos, don't know where Vamp is getting the idea that he doesn't have this power.

It might have something to do with Thanos surviving a two kilometer wide black hole.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It might have something to do with Thanos surviving a two kilometer wide black hole.

But getting dropped by a nuke size blast from the maker.

😕

The Maker.

The character with the power of a Big Bang at her fingertips, and is essentially just an aspect of the Beyonder.

Seriously dude?

Oh and managing to weather Odin's onslaught, since as outclassed as he was, he was unharmed by an attack that one-shot the Surfer, and managed to endure Odin for a while longer.

Come on man.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Maker.

The character with the power of a Big Bang at her fingertips, and is essentially just an aspect of the Beyonder.

Seriously dude?

Oh and managing to weather Odin's onslaught, since as outclassed as he was, he was unharmed by an attack that one-shot the Surfer, and managed to endure Odin for a while longer.

Come on man.

I never said Goku would one shot him but you thinking GOKU doesn't have the power to drop him is insane.

Goku isn't a millionth as powerful as Odin, and the difference between him and the Beyonder is so great that I really shouldn't have to mention it.

If Thanos just sits there and does nothing while Goku blasts him for days on end, oh sure, he may fall.

But Thanos's physical might eclipses Goku's, notably, he and Drax shattered a planet while fighting (Might be forgetting context but I don't think so), he has physically nearly killed the Surfer in like six punches, he can one-shot heralds as if they were flies, he can telepathically influence Goku, and also apparently he can kill you with his cock (quanchi told me so, and quanchi is the expert on Thanos's cock).

lol ...hilarious.

Nemebro, you have to think of everything as a hole when debating DBZ. At earlier power levels they were moon busters...these same moon busters wouldnt register to black hair Goku and would more than likely explode from a punch from this same Goku (let's not forget, in the earlier days, Goku was withstanding Nukes without a scratch). Then in the upper latter, they became planet buster but these same planet buster couldn't even put a dent on peak Super Saiyan. Frieza could blast Super Saiyan Goku all day and Goku would smile through it all. The chain goes on and on. Thanos withstanding an unknown attack from Surfer is nice and dandy but that doesn't mean he is withstanding attacks from a Goku that is unleashing on him. Thanos dropping Heralds isn't something new to DBZ characters either.

I would give Thanos the majority based on TP, anything outside of this and he WILL lose.

By the way, I don't think Thanos is stronger than Goku...it depends on how you look at strength. Everything isn't based off of lifting fts.

Originally posted by carver9
lol ...hilarious.

Nemebro, you have to think of everything as a hole when debating DBZ. At earlier power levels they were moon busters...these same moon busters wouldnt register to black hair Goku and would more than likely explode from a punch from this same Goku (let's not forget, in the earlier days, Goku was withstanding Nukes without a scratch). Then in the upper latter, they became planet buster but these same planet buster couldn't even put a dent on peak Super Saiyan. Frieza could blast Super Saiyan Goku all day and Goku would smile through it all. The chain goes on and on. Thanos withstanding an unknown attack from Surfer is nice and dandy but that doesn't mean he is withstanding attacks from a Goku that is unleashing on him. Thanos dropping Heralds isn't something new to DBZ characters either.

I would give Thanos the majority based on TP, anything outside of this and he WILL lose.

What the **** are you mentioning Surfer for?

He was weathering an onslaught from Odin.

End of DBZ characters were being killed by planet busting attacks, so your implications of powerscaling BS mean abso****inglutely nothing.

Thanos has tanked blasts from Odin, who could solo the entire cast of DBZ, he survived a two kilometer wide black hole, which would kill every DBZ character, and once more, he and Drax destroyed a planet by punching eachother, so he hits harder.

Speed is the only factor, Thanos is one of those weird characters who can hit incredibly fast characters like Surfer, yet be unable to tag Wolverine.

But then for reasons I have brought up in another thread, Wolverine is quantifiably faster than Skyfathers.

@Nemebro...

No DBZ character has died from planet busting power. Cell POWER killed Goku and the backlash of his power destroyed the planet. Buu power killed the Z fighters, not the planet exploding. The planet being destroyed is a side affect. The Maker was weakened when she faced Thanos by the way but let me use your example. The Maker koed Thanos with a blast that probably wouldn't have leveled a city so was it the collateral damage that took out Thanos or do we look at the source? Think Nemebro, THINK. Cell powers killed Goku, the planet being annihilated was a side effect had nothing to do with it. We know Z fighter can withstand planets explosions because Frieza tanked that sh** and Goku was more durable than Frieza and this was proven on panel.

Odin wasn't going all out on Thanos either so I don't know why you keep bringing that up.

Originally posted by carver9
@Nemebro...

No DBZ character has died from planet busting power.

Stopped reading.

Edit: Okay but seriously, you are aware that there is a huge difference between destroying, say, Earth, and destroying Jupiter, right?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Stopped reading.

Edit: Okay but seriously, you are aware that there is a huge difference between destroying, say, Earth, and destroying Jupiter, right?

Yes and if it showed Goku standing on Earth and the planet explode ending with him dying, then I would agree with you. What is shown is Cell blast killing Goku and the planet exploding as a side affect. What is shown is the Z fighters dying because of Buus attack and the planet exploding as a side effect. Like I said before, we have proof that Z fighters can withstand Planetary destruction...Frieza tanked planetary explosions more than once and Goku was more durable than him. This is simple Nemebro.

Show me a single blast in DBZ that was above planet destroying.

Unlike DBZ characters, the Maker and Odin have feats that put them at far above planetary in power, universal and multi-galactic, respectfully.

Also, you're a ****ing hypocrite.

Freeza level beings being unable to do much damage to end of DBZ characters?

Proof of planetary+ durability!

Thanos weathering Odin's onslaught!

Pft, Odin's blasts were obviously weak!

Also... Freeza didn't tank shit. It was only due to his unique biology that he survived the destruction of Namek.

Even if we take Cell's statement as fact (And I frankly don't), that isn't near Thanos's black hole feat.

Thanos would not only maul Goku, but he'd crush the entire DB universe by himself.

Goku would get spank into oblivion by Silver Surfer, let alone Thanos

@Nemebro...

It was stated on panel that Goku is above Planetary, even at Super Saiyan 1 levels. Babidi said it takes 300 kilos to destroy a planet, he read Goku level of power and it was at 3000 kilos and that was at Super Saiyan 1. That's 10 planets worth of power. Again, this was stated on panel. The rest of your post is pointless. Frieza at .025% of his power destroyed planet Vegeta with his index finger...Goku fought a far more powerful Frieza and tanked his attacks with a smile.

Prove that Frieza physique had something to do with it. Mystique might could shape shift but she isn't withstanding a planetary explosion. Also, Frieza father stated that a planet explosion is meaningless to someone as powerful as Frieza...he didn't say Frieza physical makeup had anything to do with it.

Originally posted by carver9
@Nemebro...

It was stated on panel that Goku is above Planetary, even at Super Saiyan 1 levels. Babidi said it takes 300 kilos to destroy a planet, he read Goku level of power and it was at 3000 kilos and that was at Super Saiyan 1. That's 10 planets worth of power. Again, this was stated on panel. The rest of your post is pointless. Frieza at .025% of his power destroyed planet Vegeta with his index finger...Goku fought a far more powerful Frieza and tanked his attacks with a smile.

Prove that Frieza physique had something to do with it. Mystique might could shape shift but she isn't withstanding a planetary explosion. Also, Frieza father stated that a planet explosion is meaningless to someone as powerful as Frieza...he didn't say Frieza physical makeup had anything to do with it.

Ten times Earth busting levels is still merely planet busting.

You're terrible. You just shot your argument in the nuts and have the audacity to think everything is fine, but your argument hates you right now carter.

Freeza was blown in half and missing half his head. The ability to survive any injury short of total destruction is part of Freeza's biology.

Keep up.

I didn't destroy my argument at all...Frieza surviving being cut in half is impressive but that doesn't mean his physique had anything to do with him tanking a planetary blast. Goku had a hole blown completely through his chest by Picollo and was still capable of fighting and beating him. Again, he had a hole in his freaking chest. Picollo has been broken into pieces which included him being broken in half...can he survive Planetary explosions as well? You don't have any proof of this. Your argument is flawed and there are plenty of character that has done things with damaged bodies.

The planet explosion isn't what killed them since again, they die before the planet is even gone, its the power source the blast is coming from since we know Cell does have the power to kill Goku. We also know that Picollo, Goku, Vegeta, etc...became far more powerful and durable than Frieze, someone who withstood planetary destruction. That alone is proof that Z fighters>a planet's destruction.

I don't see anything that makes Thanos stronger or more powerful than Goku at Super Saiyan 1 levels. At Super Saiyan 2...he dies.