Originally posted by Sabro
Where were Celestials when Chaos King was devouring the multiverse. Gaea had to step in, remember.
This is one of the most moronic arguments I've ever heard. First, I clearly showed Gaea herself doesn't consider herself a match for Celestials. Second, I can use that same argument about the Living Tribunal, Fulcrum, the phoenix force, etc. Are you telling me that since Gaea "stepped in" and they didn't, she is more powerful than them? I hope you're not that delusional.
Why doesn't Superman just go to Gotham for one day and eliminate all of Batman's villains? Why doesn't Thor get involved in Spiderman's battles? Where is Thor when Carnage is going on a rampage? He could end any storyline with a Spiderman villain in 10 seconds.
That and Greg Pak is moron.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
This is one of the most moronic arguments I've ever heard. First, I clearly showed Gaea herself doesn't consider herself a match for Celestials. Second, I can use that same argument about the Living Tribunal, Fulcrum, the phoenix force, etc. Are you telling me that since Gaea "stepped in" and they didn't, she is more powerful than them? I hope you're not that delusional.Why doesn't Superman just go to Gotham for one day and eliminate all of Batman's villains? Why doesn't Thor get involved in Spiderman's battles? Where is Thor when Carnage is going on a rampage? He could end any storyline with a Spiderman villain in 10 seconds.
That and Greg Pak is moron.
Gaea might not be a match for a host of Celestials but surely she might be a match for one Celestial.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol this thread went from 0 to retarded in no time at all.
Yup, this thread shouldn't have been created when Exitar has been damaged by attacks that Juggernaut barely felt. Celestials can reform and have vast offensive power so it doesn't suprise me if they aren't more durable than Juggs.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I saw your respect thread , and I'll admit that it was not a "simple exorcism spell" as I originally thought , but "an ancient ritual of exorcism" and in Strange's own words "a spell that will forever exorcise the mind of Set from this plane of reality" .
In the scans that you posted , apart from the cosmic cube (and that ancient exorcism spell) , no other artifact seems to seems to have been used .
So , my original statement isn't entirely wrong , as Set is still sufficiently above a CCU , such that it can't destroy him(although it can destroy the merged Serpent Crown , when in possession of 3 or more persons) : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/marvelteamupannual19823.jpg/
However , when used in conjunction with high level exorcism magic , the CCU can (permanently?) banish Set from our reality , but at the cost of getting completely drained of power :
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/marvelteamupannual19823.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/marvelteamupannual19824.jpg/Credits for the scans go to you , of course .
So to banish Set it took an exorcism spell invoking Strange's artifacts backed by the full power of a Cosmic Cube (wielded by 4 people). If anyone of those things hadn't been available to Strange, they would never have banished him from the Earth. So once his talismans were gone, there went the spell.
Originally posted by zopzop
Here is the scan that explains what I meant :So to banish Set it took an exorcism spell invoking Strange's artifacts backed by the full power of a Cosmic Cube (wielded by 4 people). If anyone of those things hadn't been available to Strange, they would never have banished him from the Earth. So once his talismans were gone, there went the spell.
But that scan also mentions that Ghaur and LLyra had to build a new Serpent Crown to bring him back , which means he apparently wasn't strong enough to return to the 616 dimension under his own power .
Or , does he always need a Serpent Crown to enter 616 ?
Originally posted by h1a8
Juggs durability enchantment is much greater than his unstoppable enchantment. Over riding the lessor doesn't mean you can over ride the greater.Lastly the fact that Exitar was penetrated by an attack that Juggs barely felt should end the thread.
That's like saying Wonder Woman is more durable than Superman , because she can't be affected by kryptonite . A very fallacious argument .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That's like saying Wonder Woman is more durable than Superman , because she can't be affected by kryptonite . A very fallacious argument .
Originally posted by h1a8
Gaea might not be a match for a host of Celestials but surely she might be a match for one Celestial.
What? No. Again, it wasn't just Gaea, it would have been her and every god and goddess on earth. The Celestials had the power to trap them in their own dimensions. Thor said that Odin is nothing to a single Celestial (grated Odin is below an Elder god, but I've seen nothing to suggest he would be manhandled like that by an Elder). And there are single Celestials that are more powerful than the entire host, such as Exitar. So even by your own logic you're wrong.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
But that scan also mentions that Ghaur and LLyra had to build a new Serpent Crown to bring him back , which means he apparently wasn't strong enough to return to the 616 dimension under his own power .
Or , does he always need a Serpent Crown to enter 616 ?
Originally posted by h1a8
How is it? Exitar was penetrated by a hammer slam and a Godblast.
But the Godblast and a blunt force hammer slam isn't kryptonite to Celestials. hyperspace energy is.
Exitar was only slightly cracked by an AMPED Mjolnir . As mere SIDE-EFFECTS of its strike , entire mountains collapsed , planet wide earthquakes were caused , and the brunt of the strike could only cause a tiny crack on Exitar's shell .
