Originally posted by zopzop
They had to build a new Serpent Crown because that's his touchstone to Earth (since Atum/Demogorge banished him the second time, after their millions year old stalemate).
So is the answer to this question :
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Or , does he always need a Serpent Crown to enter 616 ?
a "Yes" ?
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Exitar was only slightly cracked by an AMPED Mjolnir . As mere SIDE-EFFECTS of its strike , entire mountains collapsed , planet wide earthquakes were caused , and the brunt of the strike could only cause a tiny crack on Exitar's shell .
Yet Thor isn't doing anything but slightly tickling Juggs with the same attacks.
Originally posted by PillarofOsirisThor said he regained his strength though. Also how is thor cracking exitar armor pis when people like namor and juggernaut colossus can damage tiamuts armor?
Except Thor was weakened when he godblasted Juggernaut. A few panels earlier he could barely stand because of his illness. Not only that, but Thor even cracking Exitar's shell is PIS (much like him driving off Galactus with it). It falls along the same thing as Spiderman beating Firelord.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Thor said he regained his strength though. Also how is thor cracking exitar armor pis when people like namor and juggernaut colossus can damage tiamuts armor?
Tiamut wasn't in possession of his armor at that time , Mr Sinister was . Also , it was Mr Sinister who used the Celestial's reality warping abilities to break apart the armor into hundreds of individual fragments , which were used to distract the Extinction team .
Namor was only able to damage a thin fragment of the Celestial's armor , and we don't know whether Mr Sinister temporarily warped its durability to give them a brief moral boost , only to **** them up later . Its speculation either way .
However , neither Namor , nor Colossus , shattered the armor in its entirety . Only individual slivers were broken(and they immediately reformed afterwards) .
Originally posted by zopzop
Where was it stated that Mjolnir was amped? The Belt didn't amp anything, it was to reinforce Mjolnir so it could safely contain/channel the Godblast :
In that very scan , Thor admits "that not even sacred Mjolnir can safely contain energies of such incomparable intensity" . Thor has performed godblasts before(including on Juggernaut as well) , but in none of those cases did he need to wrap Mjolnir with the belt of power. This can only mean that this particular godblast was much more powerful than your regular godblast . Mjolnir needed to be physically stronger in order to withstand the kind of force it was about to unleash . What better way to strengthen it , than to wrap the belt of power(which enhances physical strength) around his hammer ?
Whatever way you look at it , Mjolnir was indeed strengthened beyond its normal level .
Hence the term AMPED .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
In that very scan , Thor admits "that not even sacred Mjolnir can safely contain energies of such incomparable intensity" . Thor has performed godblasts before(including on Juggernaut as well) , but in none of those cases did he need to wrap Mjolnir with the belt of power. This can only mean that this particular godblast was much more powerful than your regular godblast . Mjolnir needed to be physically stronger in order to withstand the kind of force it was about to unleash . What better way to strengthen it , than to wrap the belt of power(which enhances physical strength) around his hammer ?
Whatever way you look at it , Mjolnir was indeed strengthened beyond its normal level .
Hence the term AMPED .
How many times prior to this had Thor done a Godblast? I only count once, vs Galactus and that was in the 60s or something. The Juggernaut incident was after this.
This was one writer's take on it. Irregardless, the Hammer was in no way amped.
Originally posted by zopzop
How many times prior to this had Thor done a Godblast? I only count once, vs Galactus and that was in the 60s or something. The Juggernaut incident was after this.This was one writer's take on it. Irregardless, the Hammer was in no way amped.
Your words : "Mjolnir was just reinforced..."
Read your own words . Mjolnir was physically strengthened by the belt of power to withstand a higher than normal godblast that it was about to unleash . A blow , which as mere SIDE-EFFECTS , caused planet wide earthquakes , and shattered mountains several miles away . And the brunt of this blast only caused a tiny crack on Exitar's shell .
At the end of the day , whatever way you look at it , Mjolnir was indeed strengthened beyond its normal level .
Hence the term "AMPED" .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Your words : "Mjolnir was just reinforced..."Read your own words . Mjolnir was physically strengthened by the belt of power to withstand a higher than normal godblast that it was about to unleash . A blow , which as mere SIDE-EFFECTS , caused planet wide earthquakes , and shattered mountains several miles away . And the brunt of this blast only caused a tiny crack on Exitar's shell .
At the end of the day , whatever way you look at it , Mjolnir was indeed strengthened beyond its normal level .
Hence the term "AMPED" .
Higher than normal Godblast? There's degrees now? Well I guess you missed the part where Thor bragged to Juggernaut that
So be it! Thou hast forced me to unleash the most terrifying Asgardian power of all! A power which once hurled back Galactus, the World-eater, and e'en gave pause to an almighty Celestial! I must call forth the god-force which flows within my veins -- and unite it with the irresistible power of mine enchanted Uru mallet! And the God of Thunder shall become one with the hammer supreme! Let the Juggernaut FALL!
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Originally posted by zopzop
Higher than normal Godblast? There's degrees now? Well I guess you missed the part where Thor bragged to Juggernaut that
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Did he need to wrap up Mjolnir in the belt of power to do the godbalst against Juggernaut ? Also , did this particular godblast , as mere SIDE-EFFECTS , cause planet-wide earthquakes and shatter mountains across several miles ?
If not , then the Exitar-godblast is the most powerful incarnation of the attack we have seen so far and fully deserves to be called a "higher than normal godblast" .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Did he need to wrap up Mjolnir in the belt of power to do the godbalst against Juggernaut ? Also , did this particular godblast , as mere SIDE-EFFECTS , cause planet-wide earthquakes and shatter mountains across several miles ?
If not , then the Exitar-godblast is the most powerful incarnation of the attack we have seen so far and fully deserves to be called a "higher than normal godblast" .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerYou are confusing the godblast with the mighty slam on top of Exitar's head. The latter caused mountains TOPS to be destroyed and not the former. With that said, we also must go by writer's intentions. It was intended that Juggs get the same Godblast, as stated in the narrative. Even not, then you still must go astronomically higher to go from barely feeling something to being put a hole in or being cracked.
Did he need to wrap up Mjolnir in the belt of power to do the godbalst against Juggernaut ? Also , did this particular godblast , as mere SIDE-EFFECTS , cause planet-wide earthquakes and shatter mountains across several miles ?
If not , then the Exitar-godblast is the most powerful incarnation of the attack we have seen so far and fully deserves to be called a "higher than normal godblast" .
I think it's pretty obvious that exitar blast was more powerful than the one used on juggs, since after the juggs blast mjolnir was completly fine but in the exitar blast even when reinforced by the belt mjolnir broke from the amount of power channeled thru it. How can u say the blasts were the same when the effects of the blasts were completely different?
Originally posted by Raptor22
I think it's pretty obvious that exitar blast was more powerful than the one used on juggs, since after the juggs blast mjolnir was completly fine but in the exitar blast even when reinforced by the belt mjolnir broke from the amount of power channeled thru it. How can u say the blasts were the same when the effects of the blasts were completely different?
From Thor's own mouth
So be it! Thou hast forced me to unleash the most terrifying Asgardian power of all! A power which once hurled back Galactus, the World-eater, and e'en gave pause to an almighty Celestial! I must call forth the god-force which flows within my veins -- and unite it with the irresistible power of mine enchanted Uru mallet! And the God of Thunder shall become one with the hammer supreme! Let the Juggernaut FALL!
