Kal-L Vs Kingdom Come Superman

Originally posted by quanchi112
Comics don't have to be consistent nor do they have to make sense. Less powerful characters cause less collateral damage sometimes. I gave you an example if you don't like it tough. If you don't like the fact reality was in an upheaval at the time; tough.

So what ? Comics are inconsistent; lol at you trying to say these things logically add up.

You're so boring and predictable. I've went up against far greater superman fans than you.

He's invulnerable. If I hit him with a baseball bat it won't faze him in the slightest.

He was hit in the chin. Superman was elbowed in the mouth/chin.

And you're either saying a)Superman didn't expect the punch that followed the elbow and basically he's an idiot.

b)The punch sent him back hundreds of feet so that's far worse than the elbow.

Let's compare the punch Superman received to the punch Earth 22 Superman received.

This is what you call a direct comparison, boss. 🙂

Your argument consists of ignoring context and flat out lying.

Look if you haven't read the source material it's not up to me to provide multiple scans to educate you on the matter. You keep wanting to just insult because you're upset.

K-nite from his own planet doesn't affect him either. It affected him even less. Do you even know who Earth 22 Superman is ? 😂

No, you're wrong. When people argue blinding speed right out of the gate then I say shields. If you want to powerset a debate I can do so as well. I think it's obvious that the Fallen One wasn't going 300 mph considering the circumstances but I just gave you an ironclad example, lurker. Stay in the shadows.

You are the one just basically asking for information due to a lack of knowledge. If you aren't familiar with the character Earth 22 then just leave the thread. Not up to me to inform you about his comings and goings.

Yeah, I can tell you lurk a lot. Most weak willed individuals do.

I am consistent in my debating. You aren't.

That's irrelevant to the thread what my opinion is. You seem like you want me to get upset.

You are arguing about a character you have little to no knowledge of. Your answers and points are hilarious and make it so easy to tell you just aren't aware about Earth 22 Superman.

Can't get any clearer than this.

So, what did KC Superman do that is above Kal-L?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Comics don't have to be consistent nor do they have to make sense. Less powerful characters cause less collateral damage sometimes. I gave you an example if you don't like it tough. If you don't like the fact reality was in an upheaval at the time; tough.

So what ? Comics are inconsistent; lol at you trying to say these things logically add up.

Once again, another dodge. So, Quan, what does Black Adam failing to break it under even worse circumstances tell us?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're so boring and predictable.

Call it boring if you want, but predictable? I'm telling the truth. You're a hypocrite. Plain and simple kid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I've went up against far greater superman fans than you.

Yeah, and I'm sure you think you've won. Nazis also thought they descended from Atlantean sorcerer gods, that doesn't mean they were.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's invulnerable. If I hit him with a baseball bat it won't faze him in the slightest.

Another strawman?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was hit in the chin. Superman was elbowed in the mouth/chin.

K, I was wrong that KC Superman wasn't hit. Doesn't change my stance that NE Superman simply was unprepared.

Originally posted by quanchi112

You made the scan just to add my name and insult me? Cute. Maybe one day you'll be proud of somebody making a mistake as large as expunging bacteria. Of course I doubt you'd comprehend the fail.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And you're either saying a)Superman didn't expect the punch that followed the elbow and basically he's an idiot.

Shit happens, Superman was being nicer than Herc deserved.

Originally posted by quanchi112
b)The punch sent him back hundreds of feet so that's far worse than the elbow.

Let's compare the punch Superman received to the punch Earth 22 Superman received.

This is what you call a direct comparison, boss. 🙂

Not really, since we never saw Superman trying his hand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your argument consists of ignoring context and flat out lying.

No, but your arguments consist of lying, dodging, and making false accusations.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Look if you haven't read the source material it's not up to me to provide multiple scans to educate you on the matter. You keep wanting to just insult because you're upset.

nah I'm not upset. Just shows your poor judgement and reading comprehension, and just comprehension in general. I guess though it's too much for me to ask for you to back your case, especially since you've proven to be less than trustworthy, both in honesty AND ability to understand what's happening on panel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
K-nite from his own planet doesn't affect him either. It affected him even less. Do you even know who Earth 22 Superman is ? 😂

Yes, I do. In fact he had said something along the lines of, "Kryptonite? Wrong Superman." And it still hurt his eyes. Do you always read what you're actually responding to?

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you're wrong. When people argue blinding speed right out of the gate then I say shields. If you want to powerset a debate I can do so as well. I think it's obvious that the Fallen One wasn't going 300 mph considering the circumstances but I just gave you an ironclad example, lurker. Stay in the shadows.

No, you're either misremembering, or flat-out lying. Both make you less than credible.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are the one just basically asking for information due to a lack of knowledge. If you aren't familiar with the character Earth 22 then just leave the thread. Not up to me to inform you about his comings and goings.

Yet you had no problem making a scan to prove me wrong? Hey, I'm not some mindless sheep who just loves characters who don't give a f*ck like a certain KC Superman fan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, I can tell you lurk a lot. Most weak willed individuals do.

This is even worse than "expunged bacteria." But what should I expect from a shortbus passenger?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am consistent in my debating. You aren't.

How much you dodge certainly is consistent, so in that you are correct.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's irrelevant to the thread what my opinion is. You seem like you want me to get upset.

It's irrelevant to the thread, but I was discussing something that came-up with someone OTHER than you. And you think I wanted to get you upset? You do have far too high of an opinion of yourself. I was saying for you to continue to argue it is dumb because it IS dumb. It's arguing for the sake of arguing, but you just HAVE to continue it. But because of your overblown ego, if I just ignore this point you'll be creaming your pants going, "VICTORY!! HAH!! I am so superior!!" because, well, you're slow.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are arguing about a character you have little to no knowledge of. Your answers and points are hilarious and make it so easy to tell you just aren't aware about Earth 22 Superman.

I'm saying I've seen nothing to actually prove that KC Superman is so superior like is claimed. I've pointed it out, I asked for proof. You just gave me references, when I told you I don't trust either your honesty nor credibility in knowing what's actually going on. If it's so hard for you to show me scans that's your fault, not mine. Otherwise if you were bright, you'd just move on and with your ego claim victory.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
So, what did KC Superman do that is above Kal-L?

Apparently it's our job to prove Quanchi's claim, not his job to back his argument and show it when asked.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Apparently it's our job to prove Quanchi's claim, not his job to back his argument and show it when asked.

I hate when Quan spams my threads. I actually prefer KC Superman to Kal-L, but Kal is the clear winner in high end feats and sheer quantity.

Originally posted by carver9
Can't get any clearer than this.

I like you and all Carver, but I gotta say, looking at your past posts for debating, your switch to cheerleading Quan is an upgrade for ya.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I hate when Quan spams my threads. I actually prefer KC Superman to Kal-L, but Kal is the clear winner in high end feats and sheer quantity.

Well, while you disagree with Quan, maybe you can actually SHOW me these examples he keeps claiming prove KC is superior to NE. I've been curious myself, and when I keep telling Quan I want to see them, he basically goes, "Nope, I'm winning because you have to prove my point for me!!"

Originally posted by carver9
Can't get any clearer than this.

Quan and Carver... Bada and I will have to do something abolut this...

Originally posted by -Pr-
Quan and Carver... Bada and I will have to do something abolut this...

hmmmmmmmm 😖hifty:

(walks away) 😗

Originally posted by -Pr-
Quan and Carver... Bada and I will have to do something abolut this...

Join us?

Originally posted by carver9
Join us?

Bada and Pr are bi-curious? jawdrop 😱

Or is it just you and Quan are hopeful?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Once again, another dodge. So, Quan, what does Black Adam failing to break it under even worse circumstances tell us?

Call it boring if you want, but predictable? I'm telling the truth. You're a hypocrite. Plain and simple kid. [/B]

Yeah, and I'm sure you think you've won. Nazis also thought they descended from Atlantean sorcerer gods, that doesn't mean they were. [/B]

Another strawman? [/B]

K, I was wrong that KC Superman wasn't hit. Doesn't change my stance that NE Superman simply was unprepared. [/B]

So if I swung a baseball bat at an unprepared Superman would his nose bleed ?

He also was prepared toe the punch.

You made the scan just to add my name and insult me? Cute. Maybe one day you'll be proud of somebody making a mistake as large as expunging bacteria. Of course I doubt you'd comprehend the fail. [/B]

Shit happens, Superman was being nicer than Herc deserved. [/B]

Not really, since we never saw Superman trying his hand. [/B]

No, but your arguments consist of lying, dodging, and making false accusations. [/B]

nah I'm not upset. Just shows your poor judgement and reading comprehension, and just comprehension in general. I guess though it's too much for me to ask for you to back your case, especially since you've proven to be less than trustworthy, both in honesty AND ability to understand what's happening on panel. [/B]

Yes, I do. In fact he had said something along the lines of, "Kryptonite? Wrong Superman." And it still hurt his eyes. Do you always read what you're actually responding to? [/B]

No, you're either misremembering, or flat-out lying. Both make you less than credible. [/B]

Yet you had no problem making a scan to prove me wrong? Hey, I'm not some mindless sheep who just loves characters who don't give a f*ck like a certain KC Superman fan. [/B]

This is even worse than "expunged bacteria." But what should I expect from a shortbus passenger? [/B]

How much you dodge certainly is consistent, so in that you are correct.

It's irrelevant to the thread, but I was discussing something that came-up with someone OTHER than you. And you think I wanted to get you upset? You do have far too high of an opinion of yourself. I was saying for you to continue to argue it is dumb because it IS dumb. It's arguing for the sake of arguing, but you just HAVE to continue it. But because of your overblown ego, if I just ignore this point you'll be creaming your pants going, "VICTORY!! HAH!! I am so superior!!" because, well, you're slow. [/B]

I'm saying I've seen nothing to actually prove that KC Superman is so superior like is claimed. I've pointed it out, I asked for proof. You just gave me references, when I told you I don't trust either your honesty nor credibility in knowing what's actually going on. If it's so hard for you to show me scans that's your fault, not mine. Otherwise if you were bright, you'd just move on and with your ego claim victory. [/B]

Originally posted by quanchi112
That writing is inconsistent. More powerful characters do less collateral damage than less powerful characters. It isn't proof of anything.

So, again, you don't want to admit it matters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're just predictable and are already catching heat on kmc.

You throw around "predictable" so much like it's a magic word that makes you win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You ran your own site and banned those who disagreed with you from what I hear.

I never ran my own site. And you heard wrong. Nobody was banned for DISAGREEING. They were all butthurt and either made it up to justify what happened, or were too stupid to comprehend what happened.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just debate with me if you can.

How do you expect people to be able to debate with you when you dance around the issues and dodge things? I mean you're basically saying, "You're wrong because you have to prove me right." That's a fact. Let me guess? I'm so predictable?

Originally posted by quanchi112
In that case you're the Nazi, amirite ?

If I'm the Nazi, you're france.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this all you say ? Concede more.

Explain how pointing-out your argument was irrelevant is conceding.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It feels good to hear you were wrong. It feels awesome. I knew by your posts you were completely unaware of Kc Superman.

See? This is exactly why I say you've got serious mental issues. You get one admittance to someone being wrong and you celebrate like you just had your way with 3 supermodels at once. Yet you make as massive a mistake as "expunged bacteria" and you never admit to being wrong. I mean I remember you being all proud because someone was trying to figure-out exactly how much they disagreed on you with a certain issue that YOU specifically wanted to debate on, and after refusing to tell, claimed it was a victory, that they were trying to nitpick to get a win. Maybe this is all an act, but you certainly give the impression that you need therapy. And no, that's not an insult, a flame, ect. That's my honest opinion on you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So if I swung a baseball bat at an unprepared Superman would his nose bleed ?

I'd point-out this is yet another strawman, but you'd say, "How predictable. Thanks for conceding."

Originally posted by quanchi112
He also was prepared toe the punch.

Huh? Even if "toe" was a typo of "to" that still doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The scan is correct since you are wrong. That isn't an insult it's a fact. I didn't ay delta is stupid or ugly. Those are insults. Learn what words mean before using them in a sentence. Keep bringing that up. 🙂

OK, "insult" was the wrong word to use, but you clearly made the scan to mock me. And before you get all excited at another making mountain ranges out of molehills for your "victories," it says quite a bit that you'd go to that much effort but not show the examples I ask for. That, and, well you make a far bigger mistake later on, that's in the same style.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman was hit once. I guess you think he's unbelievably stupid to be hit again after he's bleeding from an elbow shot.

He's overly nice. So what?

Originally posted by quanchi112
One Superman is completely unfazed while one is launched back hundreds of feet. That's as good as a comparison you are going to get in a comic.

No, if both Supermans(Supermen? I dunno) were braced THEN you'd have as good a comparison as you're going to get in a comic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're boring me.

Maybe I am. But it's the truth.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You admitted you were wrong so either you lied or were just ignorant. Pick one.

Or I misremembered, genius.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Earth 22 developed an immunity to it while Ne Superman has yet to do so. You really have no idea about Earth 22 Superman.

Yes, I have an idea. But your reading comprehension isn't that great. For someone who's immune to Kryptonite, he sure got his eyes hurt by some gas or dust or whatever of it. From, as far as I'm aware, a different Earth. Which, even if he were very vulnerable to it, shouldn't even effect him in the first place. He even stated "Wrong Superman" so it wasn't a mistake on the writer's part.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You were the one who admitted he was wrong not me. You admitted to me you're wrong. Glorious.

I'm sure that you would make a rather big deal over, "You keep bringing-up expunged bacteria. That's all you have." But you're still in ecstasy over "you admitted you were wrong." That says so much considering "bacteria expunged" is irrelevant in your eyes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I post scans when I feel like it. It's clear you don't know enough about Kc to even debate this issue by your reasoning but it's fun to show you up when I feel like it anyway.

So in other words, you're afraid to actually show the scans? It's really dumb for you to do this. "You're wrong because you have to prove me right."

Originally posted by quanchi112
And you bring it up again. 😂

So says the guy who's brought-up, "You admitted you were wrong" 3 times so far.

Originally posted by quanchi112
More insults from you. Sign of a weak debater.

Quote and highlight, without altering what I actually said, where I insulted you in that paragraph. Stating you have an overly high opinion of yourself is correct(especially since you had assumed that I had said something with the intention to get you mad, when it was far from it) and where I pointed-out that you're slow. Pointing-out that you're slow is not an insult, it's actually a nicer way to say what could be said, since you believed "expunging bacteria" was literal, refused to acknowledge a similar situation which, by your standards, would mean Galactus is an insect(huh, no wonder he gets punked so much), or that you actually thought I was trying to get you mad because I said what you were doing was stupid and ridiculous. But then again, maybe the being slow part is just on purpose to bother others.

If you fail to highlight an actual insult, I'll accept your admittance that you're wrong.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have given proof. You admitted you were wrong. I showed you scans and you said you were wrong. Game. Set. Match.

No. You refer to examples, and when I say I want to see them because I don't trust your judgement, you basically go, "Hah!! You concede because you can't prove I'm right. I win." If you don't have the scans, just say so. But you're proving why so few people like you because you're basically claiming victory because I can't confirm or deny your claims.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
So, what did KC Superman do that is above Kal-L?

Nothing.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Nothing.

Can you help me with scans for these examples Quan claims proves him right? Or is it all in my head that his argument is coming down to, "I'm right because you have to prove what I say?"

I remember one feat for KC. The JSA team dogpilled him and he got out of it. Starman was also trying to increase his weight. Still not Kal-L level/.

You know what, Quanchi? Unless you provide the scans I asked for, I'm going to assume you're either lying, or simply not confident in your "proof" of being "right."

"Debating" with you is pretty much ramming your head into a brick wall. You never concede even when there's galaxies worth of evidence proving you wrong, you are all smug when you see just a hint of someone saying they could be wrong, you dodge numerous points and questions, and it's ridiculous how you're claiming victory because I want to see you back your claims. Not to mention your double standards.

I feel it's pointless to continue what we're doing, because you'll just continue arrogantly claiming victory because I ask you to back your claims, and you're too stubborn to drop thing that are irrelevant because I guess you have to argue for the sake of arguing. I'd have just replaced my previous response with this, but it's too late for me to.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, again, you don't want to admit it matters.

You throw around "predictable" so much like it's a magic word that makes you win. [/B]

I never ran my own site. And you heard wrong. Nobody was banned for DISAGREEING. They were all butthurt and either made it up to justify what happened, or were too stupid to comprehend what happened. [/B]

How do you expect people to be able to debate with you when you dance around the issues and dodge things? I mean you're basically saying, "You're wrong because you have to prove me right." That's a fact. Let me guess? I'm so predictable? [/B]

If I'm the Nazi, you're france. [/B]

Explain how pointing-out your argument was irrelevant is conceding. [/B]

See? This is exactly why I say you've got serious mental issues. You get one admittance to someone being wrong and you celebrate like you just had your way with 3 supermodels at once. Yet you make as massive a mistake as "expunged bacteria" and you never admit to being wrong. I mean I remember you being all proud because someone was trying to figure-out exactly how much they disagreed on you with a certain issue that YOU specifically wanted to debate on, and after refusing to tell, claimed it was a victory, that they were trying to nitpick to get a win. Maybe this is all an act, but you certainly give the impression that you need therapy. And no, that's not an insult, a flame, ect. That's my honest opinion on you. [/B]

I'd point-out this is yet another strawman, but you'd say, "How predictable. Thanks for conceding." [/B]

Huh? Even if "toe" was a typo of "to" that still doesn't make sense. [/B]

OK, "insult" was the wrong word to use, but you clearly made the scan to mock me. And before you get all excited at another making mountain ranges out of molehills for your "victories," it says quite a bit that you'd go to that much effort but not show the examples I ask for. That, and, well you make a far bigger mistake later on, that's in the same style.
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He's overly nice. So what? [/B]

No, if both Supermans(Supermen? I dunno) were braced THEN you'd have as good a comparison as you're going to get in a comic. [/B]

Maybe I am. But it's the truth.

Or I misremembered, genius.

Yes, I have an idea. But your reading comprehension isn't that great. For someone who's immune to Kryptonite, he sure got his eyes hurt by some gas or dust or whatever of it. From, as far as I'm aware, a different Earth. Which, even if he were very vulnerable to it, shouldn't even effect him in the first place. He even stated "Wrong Superman" so it wasn't a mistake on the writer's part. [/B]

Yes, your ignorance. You were unaware you were wrong aka ignorant.

He developed a high immunity to it but it seems it could still bother his eyes. In kc it didn't at all but in jsa it barely affected his eyes. Ne Superman has been shown to almost die on occasion to it. He said wrong Superman because it doesn't affect him the same way it affects Ne Superman. It isn't a weakness of his like it is to Ne Superman because he's superior.

I'm sure that you would make a rather big deal over, "You keep bringing-up expunged bacteria. That's all you have." But you're still in ecstasy over "you admitted you were wrong." That says so much considering "bacteria expunged" is irrelevant in your eyes. [/B]

So in other words, you're afraid to actually show the scans? It's really dumb for you to do this. "You're wrong because you have to prove me right." [/B]

So says the guy who's brought-up, "You admitted you were wrong" 3 times so far.

Quote and highlight, without altering what I actually said, where I insulted you in that paragraph. Stating you have an overly high opinion of yourself is correct(especially since you had assumed that I had said something with the intention to get you mad, when it was far from it) and where I pointed-out that you're slow. Pointing-out that you're slow is not an insult, it's actually a nicer way to say what could be said, since you believed "expunging bacteria" was literal, refused to acknowledge a similar situation which, by your standards, would mean Galactus is an insect(huh, no wonder he gets punked so much), or that you actually thought I was trying to get you mad because I said what you were doing was stupid and ridiculous.

If you fail to highlight an actual insult, I'll accept your admittance that you're wrong.
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Saying someone is slow is an insult. It's an insult at someone's intelligence. You prove time and time again you don't know what the word insult means.

No. You refer to examples, and when I say I want to see them because I don't trust your judgement, you basically go, "Hah!! You concede because you can't prove I'm right. I win." If you don't have the scans, just say so. But you're proving why so few people like you because you're basically claiming victory because I can't confirm or deny your claims. [/B]

You said you were wrong and I agree.

Here look at my sig. That's all the more proof you're getting. He's batting the magical power of third world Gog.

Yw.

🙂

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Nothing.

Like I figured Quanny, you wouldn't put-up the scans, or even say you will. I'm just gonna bother replying to a few things.

"If they disagree with your opinion I guess that makes them too stupid. Point proven."

It had NOTHING to do with them disagreeing. Tons of people disagreed with me that didn't get banned. People convinced themselves that was the reason.

"No, I am Russia."

WOOSH!! Over your head, Quanny. I didn't say you were french, as in ethnically. I was saying if I'm the Nazis, then you're the country of france. Or do I have to give you a bit of a lesson on World War Two?

"I already got you to admit you were wrong and you pretended Superman's invulnerability is dependent on him being aware or prepared."

Well I'm actually man-enough to admit when I'm wrong. But you can't admit you're wrong in such glaring errors, which is pretty bad for an old timer like you. So I guess Galactus is an insect, too?

By the way, I never claimed nor pretended Superman's invulnerability was dependent on preparedness. You're either proving poor reading comprehension, or putting words in my mouth. Which is it?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Like I figured Quanny, you wouldn't put-up the scans, or even say you will. I'm just gonna bother replying to a few things.

"If they disagree with your opinion I guess that makes them too stupid. Point proven."

It had NOTHING to do with them disagreeing. Tons of people disagreed with me that didn't get banned. People convinced themselves that was the reason.

"No, I am Russia."

WOOSH!! Over your head, Quanny. I didn't say you were french, as in ethnically. I was saying if I'm the Nazis, then you're the country of france. Or do I have to give you a bit of a lesson on World War Two?

"I already got you to admit you were wrong and you pretended Superman's invulnerability is dependent on him being aware or prepared."

Well I'm actually man-enough to admit when I'm wrong. But you can't admit you're wrong in such glaring errors, which is pretty bad for an old timer like you. So I guess Galactus is an insect, too?

By the way, I never claimed nor pretended Superman's invulnerability was dependent on preparedness. You're either proving poor reading comprehension, or putting words in my mouth. Which is it?

Yes, and I am Russia from ww2. You do know what happened, right ? Went right over your head. Irony ftw.

If you admit his invulnerability doesn't change then you admit that it had nothing to do with Hercules attacks. He also was aware of the punch and went back flying. Kc no sold it. Pretty easy to comprehend that scan but you are pretending it doesn't matter/count. I don't post scans for those who are deluded unless I feel like it. Bottom line.

You say you are done responding so lurk away. You never see anything through.