Kal-L Vs Kingdom Come Superman

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're quick to insult so I am sure you were quick to use your ban power n those who disagreed with you. I heard you insulted all the time but banned them for the same behavior.

You weren't there. And your assumption is incorrect. I did not ban people for the same behavior. I'm not a hypocrite. Those who claim I did are either lying or too stupid to realize what they did.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already put up two scans. You haven't put up any.

You put-up one example that is well seen. I asked for these other examples, because really the Hercules thing is utterly unconvincing when taken into context. But you're a NE Superman hater so of course you'll dismiss what Is ay as fanboyism.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, and I am Russia from ww2. You do know what happened, right ? Went right over your head. Irony ftw.

Yes, I'm aware of what happened with World War Two. Too bad Russia didn't exist during World War Two, so I guess you're saying that you hid until the Nazis were gone?

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you admit his invulnerability doesn't change then you admit that it had nothing to do with Hercules attacks. He also was aware of the punch and went back flying. Kc no sold it. Pretty easy to comprehend that scan but you are pretending it doesn't matter/count. I don't post scans for those who are deluded unless I feel like it. Bottom line.

hahah Greater invulnerability won't stop someone from being knocked away if they're not prepared. What KC Superman did was a feat of strength, not strictly invulnerability. Unless you think that KC Superman wouldn't have moved if he were sucker punched?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You say you are done responding so lurk away. You never see anything through.

Clearly you've gained no wisdom in your old age.

Originally posted by Delta1938
You weren't there. And your assumption is incorrect. I did not ban people for the same behavior. I'm not a hypocrite. Those who claim I did are either lying or too stupid to realize what they did.

You put-up one example that is well seen. I asked for these other examples, because really the Hercules thing is utterly unconvincing when taken into context. But you're a NE Superman hater so of course you'll dismiss what Is ay as fanboyism. [/B]

Yes, I'm aware of what happened with World War Two. Too bad Russia didn't exist during World War Two, so I guess you're saying that you hid until the Nazis were gone? [/B]

http://www.2worldwar2.com/russia.htm

Are you from this planet ? I mean really. The best part is it blew over your head.

hahah Greater invulnerability won't stop someone from being knocked away if they're not prepared. What KC Superman did was a feat of strength, not strictly invulnerability. Unless you think that KC Superman wouldn't have moved if he were sucker punched?[/B]

Clearly you've gained no wisdom in your old age. [/B]

Originally posted by quanchi112
You make it so obvious you did what they claimed you did. But whatevs you're in kmc now not that little island.

I know you're going to believe what you want, and since you don't like me, you'll believe the worst. But the truth is, people were not banned for disagreeing or insulting. In fact, the only person I can ever remember even getting warned, let alone banned, for insulting someone was this Hulk fanboy. In discussion with someone else, I had mentioned I was adopted. He jumped in and said, "hahah Figures you're so worthless not even your parents love you." Which actually didn't bother me at all, but the admin felt it went too far and warned him.

But think what you want. It says a lot that you're sticking to second-hand stories and not asking me yourself, when you continuously dismiss me as, "Not knowing enough about the character." Well, you don't know what actually happened.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you won't acknowledge one clear cut example why will I put up another one. I am not going to the trouble for you to to pretend something isn't an example. I have already listed enough examples myself. I am not posting scan after scan just because you're begging me to.

I'm not begging, I'm pointing-out that you're not backing your case like you claim. Figures from you, though.

Originally posted by quanchi112
http://www.2worldwar2.com/russia.htm

Are you from this planet ? I mean really. The best part is it blew over your head.

I'm from Earth. I'm correct. It was the United Soviet Socialist Republic that participated in World War Two. They dissolved into many smaller countries, the largest being the Russian Federation, in the early 90's. So, you just hid until the Nazis were long gone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it will. If greater invulnerability wouldn't then a bullet would pierce his skin if he wasn't prepared. It won't. The level of power needs to be great enough to hurt him but since he has invulnerability a really strong man still can't hurt Superman or knock him backward if he catches him off guard. I am sick of you downplaying Superman's durability and his invulnerability. Jellyrobes would never downplay Superman and doesn't run from anyone.

I'm downplaying Superman's durability? You're not even making sense. Either you have no idea what you're talking about, or you're strawmanning. And you dodged my question. Do you think KC Superman would've still stood there if he'd been sucker-punched?

Originally posted by Delta1938
I know you're going to believe what you want, and since you don't like me, you'll believe the worst. But the truth is, people were not banned for disagreeing or insulting. In fact, the only person I can ever remember even getting warned, let alone banned, for insulting someone was this Hulk fanboy. In discussion with someone else, I had mentioned I was adopted. He jumped in and said, "hahah Figures you're so worthless not even your parents love you." Which actually didn't bother me at all, but the admin felt it went too far and warned him.

But think what you want. It says a lot that you're sticking to second-hand stories and not asking me yourself, when you continuously dismiss me as, "Not knowing enough about the character." Well, you don't know what actually happened.[/B]

I'm not begging, I'm pointing-out that you're not backing your case like you claim. Figures from you, though. [/B]

I'm from Earth. I'm correct. It was the United Soviet Socialist Republic that participated in World War Two. They dissolved into many smaller countries, the largest being the Russian Federation, in the early 90's. So, you just hid until the Nazis were long gone.[/B]

I'm downplaying Superman's durability? You're not even making sense. Either you have no idea what you're talking about, or you're strawmanning. And you dodged my question. Do you think KC Superman would've still stood there if he'd been sucker-punched? [/B]

Look at my sig. I claimed he batted away magical energy from Gog. It's right in my sig. Man, I am good.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, I don't believe you as you have a habit of ignoring everything that doesn't fit into your world. You even describe the poster as a fanboy while others might deem you a fanboy yourself.
Ok, I will.

I know you will think what you want Quanny. If your mom committed murder, and there was DNA evidence, a weapon was used that she owned, there were multiple credible witnesses who all passed polygraphs, there were several high-quality videos of it from different angles clearly showing what happened, she had intent and had made previous threats, and she gave a signed confession, I'm sure you'd still stick to she didn't do it.

By the way, that Hulk fanboy? Do you think someone who said that Hulk would single-handedly curb-stomp the JLA with ease isn't a Hulk fanboy? He also said Superman would never get one win against any version of Hulk. And no, he wasn't joking or trolling or anything. He meant it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already cited multiple examples and actually posted scans. Have you ? Nah.

You said them, I want to see them. Your refusal to do it and attitude of I have to prove YOUR claim means one of three things. You're lazy, just an ass, or don't have them/aren't confident.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You pretended Superman wasn't ready like he's some kind of idiot or something with lives on the line.

I said shit happens.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is when I say Russia you know who I mean.

Excuses, excuses. You were wrong. Russia didn't exist during WWII. Deal with it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't have to type in Soviet Union for ww 2 to get to that link either.

I guess to accommodate idiots or those too young to know on the Internet? Whatever the case, if you were to be tested and put "Russia" down for WWII, you'd be wrong.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The way you're acting is that I could hurt him if you catch him off guard. That's simply untrue. Superman wouldn't feel your attacks or budge from them whether he was asleep and you were hitting him with a crowbar.

No I'm not. I'm talking about the being knocked away part. How did me asking if KC Superman would've still stood unmoved if sucker-punched not scream that?

Originally posted by Delta1938
I know you will think what you want Quanny. If your mom committed murder, and there was DNA evidence, a weapon was used that she owned, there were multiple credible witnesses who all passed polygraphs, there were several high-quality videos of it from different angles clearly showing what happened, she had intent and had made previous threats, and she gave a signed confession, I'm sure you'd still stick to she didn't do it.

By the way, that Hulk fanboy? Do you think someone who said that Hulk would single-handedly curb-stomp the JLA with ease isn't a Hulk fanboy? He also said Superman would never get one win against any version of Hulk. And no, he wasn't joking or trolling or anything. He meant it.[/B]

You said them, I want to see them. Your refusal to do it and attitude of I have to prove YOUR claim means one of three things. You're lazy, just an ass, or don't have them/aren't confident.
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You need to actually do a little research about who Earth 22 Superman is you just don't seem knowledgeable. But here is another instance of Earth 22 Superman being able to hear something Superman can't even hear. That's a direct comparison. He's just more than Ne Superman was and has always been portrayed as such.

I said shit happens.[/B]

Excuses, excuses. You were wrong. Russia didn't exist during WWII. Deal with it.[/B]

I guess to accommodate idiots or those too young to know on the Internet? Whatever the case, if you were to be tested and put "Russia" down for WWII, you'd be wrong.

No I'm not. I'm talking about the being knocked away part. How did me asking if KC Superman would've still stood unmoved if sucker-punched not scream that? [/B]

If he stood in a defensive posture and defended himself that could be the case. He let Hercules punch him in the face. He didn't move. He's more invulnerable/durable. It's obvious that you are deluded. I'd love to ask the writer because you know he'd laugh at you.

Now accept my mercy and just move on. You have never had the intestinal fortitude to stand against someone like me. You're a lurker. That's fine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't dispute facts. I'd never say the sky wasn't blue. This is the norm for you; apparently.

Why are you lying?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have seen Superman fans argue the same kind of ridiculousness all the same. Hulk's best showings he'd definitely take on the jla since bricks have posed problems for them all the same but that's neither here nor there.

Dodge.

"Do you think someone who said that Hulk would single-handedly curb-stomp the JLA with ease isn't a Hulk fanboy? He also said Superman would never get one win against any version of Hulk."

Would you say he's a Hulk fanboy? Yes or no? Failure to answer "yes" or "no" will be accepted concession.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's just amusing to see you beg. To keep you at bay when I want to do so if I want to do so. You haven't offered any proof and fully admit you were wrong when it comes to Earth 22 Superman.

If you're serious, get therapy Quan. You desperately need it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to actually do a little research about who Earth 22 Superman is you just don't seem knowledgeable. But here is another instance of Earth 22 Superman being able to hear something Superman can't even hear. That's a direct comparison. He's just more than Ne Superman was and has always been portrayed as such.

Clearly you're capable of either making scans yourself, or having someone else do it. So I guess it's only now hitting you how stupid it is to base your argument on I have to prove you right.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's not a retort. That's a copout.

It's the truth. You should know better than anybody about doing stupid things.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I wasn't wrong. You acted like you were clueless with what I said about Russia. If you don't speak like a human being please learn how.

Yes, you were wrong. Russia was not around during WWII. You said at the beginning that you'd never dispute facts. You were wrong and that is a fact that you're disputing. Whining that I should've "known what you meant" doesn't change anything. You should've thought ahead and made sure you were correct. Now you're just disputing a historical fact after you said, "I don't dispute facts."

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't a test or school environment.

Too bad, Quan. You were wrong. Whine to someone who cares.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You didn't know what I meant because it blew right over your head. Not my fault.

And the sky isn't blue too, right?

Originally posted by quanchi112
If he stood in a defensive posture and defended himself that could be the case. He let Hercules punch him in the face. He didn't move. He's more invulnerable/durable. It's obvious that you are deluded. I'd love to ask the writer because you know he'd laugh at you.

I'm laughing because you have to set-up that KC Superman just happens to be in a prepared defensive position so he can tank a sucker punch, and you somehow think that proves me wrong. Then you throw-out a strawman about you'd love to ask the writer. Concession accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Now accept my mercy and just move on. You have never had the intestinal fortitude to stand against someone like me. You're a lurker. That's fine.

Thank you for the laugh about your "mercy." You're about as fearful as a kitten and a puppy playing together. And you just contradicted yourself. You claim I never had the intestinal fortitude to stand against someone like you, yet, here I am. Genius, Quan. Genius. In a single post you said you don't dispute facts, then dispute one, followed by saying that KC Superman having to be prepared to take a sucker punch proves you right, then you say I don't have the balls to face you when I've been doing so for a while.

Great job. thumbs_up

Originally posted by Delta1938
Why are you lying?

Dodge.[/B]

"Do you think someone who said that Hulk would single-handedly curb-stomp the JLA with ease isn't a Hulk fanboy? He also said Superman would never get one win against any version of Hulk."[/B]

Would you say he's a Hulk fanboy? Yes or no? Failure to answer "yes" or "no" will be accepted concession.[/B]

If you're serious, get therapy Quan. You desperately need it.[/B]

Clearly you're capable of either making scans yourself, or having someone else do it. So I guess it's only now hitting you how stupid it is to base your argument on I have to prove you right.[/B]

Your lack of a response and personal attacks are another form of concession.

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It's the truth. You should know better than anybody about doing stupid things.

Yes, you were wrong. Russia was not around during WWII. You said at the beginning that you'd never dispute facts. You were wrong and that is a fact that you're disputing. Whining that I should've "known what you meant" doesn't change anything. You should've thought ahead and made sure you were correct. Now you're just disputing a historical fact after you said, "I don't dispute facts."
[/B][/QUOTE] Just stop. You aren't witty enough to even get to me.

If you don't know what I meant and want to pretend this is a college test by all means go ahead. It blew right over your head. It's fine. Just move on already.

Too bad, Quan. You were wrong. Whine to someone who cares.

And the sky isn't blue too, right?[/B]

It is blue but your shade of blue in your mind is red.

I'm laughing because you have to set-up that KC Superman just happens to be in a prepared defensive position so he can tank a sucker punch, and you somehow think that proves me wrong. Then you throw-out a strawman about you'd love to ask the writer. Concession accepted.
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I didn't concede. You did. You know the writer would mock anyone with your viewpoint. You don't comprehend the obvious due to loving the other character.

Thank you for the laugh about your "mercy." You're about as fearful as a kitten and a puppy playing together. And you just contradicted yourself. You claim I never had the intestinal fortitude to stand against someone like you, yet, here I am. Genius, Quan. Genius. In a single post you said you don't dispute facts, then dispute one, followed by saying that KC Superman having to be prepared to take a sucker punch proves you right, then you say I don't have the balls to face you when I've been doing so for a while.

Great job. thumbs_up [/B]

Still Kal-L.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm not lying but the delusional such as yourself can't be reasoned with.

You're lying. And you have no place to accuse anybody of delusions.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False.

That's not the issue I am sure you are twisting things. I don't take what you say at face value. You insult those who disagree with you. I've seen you do it here numerous times now you want to act like you are fair and impartial.
I don't take your word for anything. Send me a link where it's stated. if you can't then you;re probably twisting things like you do here.

It's a dodge. You can't answer my question, because it proves my point. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant. I'm not lying(unlike you have been). If the site wasn't still under development, I'd look to see if I could find it, since it was a few years ago. Doesn't change the fact that you are incapable of answering a simple "yes or no" question.

And the fact is, I didn't do what you've heard I did. They're the one twisting things. You weren't there, you're clueless(wouldn't be the first time), and you're disputing a fact.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B] Stick to the topic.

You claim I'm begging and I'm the one who needs to stick to the topic?

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]I just posted more proof that Earth 22 was just greater than Ne Superman. He is basically immune to k-nite, has been in the sun longer, stood unfazed by a punch from Herc which rocked Superman. The writer makes it plain as day he's just more formidable than Ne Superman.
Your lack of a response and personal attacks are another form of concession.

Don't accuse others of doing concession until you can answer a simple question. Based on what I told you, would you say he's a Hulk fanboy? Yes, or no? You already conceded.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Just stop. You aren't witty enough to even get to me.

Who said I was trying to get to you? You sure have a big ego to think everybody's out to get you. By the way, you wouldn't know wit if it stabbed you 50 times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]If you don't know what I meant and want to pretend this is a college test by all means go ahead. It blew right over your head. It's fine. Just move on already.

No, you f*cked up and aren't man enough to admit it. After you claimed you don't dispute facts. And you say I need to move on when I told you that what you did was stupid and pointless on arguing something you had no business arguing with? Great going, gramps.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]You obviously do. You said you were done responding. You have been online all night waiting for me as I watched the game. You won't see this through anyway. You will just disappear into the shadows.

It is blue but your shade of blue in your mind is red.

There again with your ego. I haven't been waiting for you at all. While I'm not afraid of you in the least, I do don't like having to deal with you. Not because of how awesome you've convinced yourself you are, but how annoying you are. You lie, you dodge, you prove to be a hypocrite, you dismiss facts like these pointed-out to you as being "predictable and boring." But you're clearly trying to convince yourself I'll disappear. I mean you did say I lack the intestinal fortitude to face someone like you, yet I have been.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Are you serious ? He's standing there without even trying to dodge at all. He doesn't move an inch yet Superman was thrown back hundreds of feet and you want to pretend this isn't a comparison. This is why I don't post scans because you're biased.

I didn't concede. You did. You know the writer would mock anyone with your viewpoint. You don't comprehend the obvious due to loving the other character.
Says the guy who said he was done responding but continues to respond. I'm in your head. You waited all night for me. You will continue to respond but eventually fade into the darkness.

I asked you if KC Superman would've just stood there if he were sucker-punched. You had to set-up a scenario where he's for some reason braced for a sucker-punch. Concession accepted.

Not much to say really, the "Original" Superman Kal-L wins

I really can't wait to bring Super baby feats

Originally posted by biensalsa
Not much to say really, the "Original" Superman Kal-L wins

I really can't wait to bring Super baby feats

Is it so bad baby Kal-L could win?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Why are you lying?

Dodge.

"Do you think someone who said that Hulk would single-handedly curb-stomp the JLA with ease isn't a Hulk fanboy? He also said Superman would never get one win against any version of Hulk."

Would you say he's a Hulk fanboy? Yes or no? Failure to answer "yes" or "no" will be accepted concession.

If you're serious, get therapy Quan. You desperately need it.

Clearly you're capable of either making scans yourself, or having someone else do it. So I guess it's only now hitting you how stupid it is to base your argument on I have to prove you right.

It's the truth. You should know better than anybody about doing stupid things.

Yes, you were wrong. Russia was not around during WWII. You said at the beginning that you'd never dispute facts. You were wrong and that is a fact that you're disputing. Whining that I should've "known what you meant" doesn't change anything. You should've thought ahead and made sure you were correct. Now you're just disputing a historical fact after you said, "I don't dispute facts."

Too bad, Quan. You were wrong. Whine to someone who cares.

And the sky isn't blue too, right?

I'm laughing because you have to set-up that KC Superman just happens to be in a prepared defensive position so he can tank a sucker punch, and you somehow think that proves me wrong. Then you throw-out a strawman about you'd love to ask the writer. Concession accepted.

Thank you for the laugh about your "mercy." You're about as fearful as a kitten and a puppy playing together. And you just contradicted yourself. You claim I never had the intestinal fortitude to stand against someone like you, yet, here I am. Genius, Quan. Genius. In a single post you said you don't dispute facts, then dispute one, followed by saying that KC Superman having to be prepared to take a sucker punch proves you right, then you say I don't have the balls to face you when I've been doing so for a while.

Great job. thumbs_up

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Originally posted by Delta1938
You're lying. And you have no place to accuse anybody of delusions.

It's a dodge. You can't answer my question, because it proves my point. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant. I'm not lying(unlike you have been). If the site wasn't still under development, I'd look to see if I could find it, since it was a few years ago. Doesn't change the fact that you are incapable of answering a simple "yes or no" question.[/B]

And the fact is, I didn't do what you've heard I did. They're the one twisting things. You weren't there, you're clueless(wouldn't be the first time), and you're disputing a fact.[/B]

You claim I'm begging and I'm the one who needs to stick to the topic?
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Don't accuse others of doing concession until you can answer a simple question. Based on what I told you, would you say he's a Hulk fanboy? Yes, or no? You already conceded.[/B]

Who said I was trying to get to you? You sure have a big ego to think everybody's out to get you. By the way, you wouldn't know wit if it stabbed you 50 times.

No, you f*cked up and aren't man enough to admit it. After you claimed you don't dispute facts. And you say I need to move on when I told you that what you did was stupid and pointless on arguing something you had no business arguing with? Great going, gramps.[/B]

No, I didn't but one thing is a fact you admitted you were wrong before mighty Quan.

I guess 33 is ancient in your world. Ok, kiddo.

There again with your ego. I haven't been waiting for you at all. While I'm not afraid of you in the least, I do don't like having to deal with you. Not because of how awesome you've convinced yourself you are, but how annoying you are. You lie, you dodge, you prove to be a hypocrite, you dismiss facts like these pointed-out to you as being "predictable and boring." But you're clearly trying to convince yourself I'll disappear. I mean you did say I lack the intestinal fortitude to face someone like you, yet I have been.
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I asked you if KC Superman would've just stood there if he were sucker-punched. You had to set-up a scenario where he's for some reason braced for a sucker-punch. Concession accepted. [/B]

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am not. Unlike you I have provided proof. You just keep begging for more scans since you aren't aware of Earth 22 Superman. Clearly.

False. You look at a scan and pretend it's something other than it isn't. That's delusional.
You won't provide proof just like I suspected. You are twisting what happened. No surprise. I have seen you do it here.

I just posted a scan and you ignored the direct comparison. Ne Superman couldn't hear what Earth 22 Superman because the writer is showing us he's just flat out better by comparison. It's just one more example like the k-nite, etc.
I don't trust your word so if you can't provide the link so I can verify it myself then I don't believe you.

Your attempts at humor are laughable but not in the way you are aiming for.

No, I didn't but one thing is a fact you admitted you were wrong before mighty Quan.

I guess 33 is ancient in your world. Ok, kiddo.

You've lurked for years and a few posts back and forth isn't really facing me. This is like the Superbowl for you but to me it's like a Thursday. Just pull yourself together and clear your mind.
Yes, he'd stand there since his invulnerability is greater than Superman's. Hercules doesn't have the power to hurt him like he does against Ne Superman. If someone hits Ne Superman with a baseball bat while he's sleeping it won't faze him. Now for the last time quit downplaying his invulnerability.

All that matters gramps is that you've indirectly admitted you're a liar, you've proven you will grasp at straws no matter how wrong you are(Russia didn't even exist during WWII, deal with it old timer), you've proven your over-inflated sense of self-worth, and you have to set-up a specific scenario just so you can try to say KC Superman will stand-up to the sucker-punch. All while proving incapable of comprehending what my initial question was. That is all.

That and Kal-L wins.

Originally posted by Delta1938
[B]I didn't see the example myself, but I recall Wally cracking an alternate Anti-Monitor's shell, when AM was allegedly more powerful because of some different circumstances, when participating in COIE in an alternate timeline. Sooooooo.....

Originally posted by cdtm

So he DID do it. Thanks for showing.

No problem.

Although, I wouldn't say this proves he can "hit" with the force of galaxies, as he was phase disrupting. For a time, whenever he phased through something, it became unstable and exploded like a bomb. He had no control over this, but eventually learned to control his phasing and only blow things up when intended..

Originally posted by cdtm
No problem.

Although, I wouldn't say this proves he can "hit" with the force of galaxies, as he was phase disrupting. For a time, whenever he phased through something, it became unstable and exploded like a bomb. He had no control over this, but eventually learned to control his phasing and only blow things up when intended..

Actually I was just pointing-out that the statement wasn't necessarily as outlandish as was claimed. I've seen butthurt people take things I've said out of context and present them as me being delusional/idiotic/ect.

Originally posted by Delta1938
All that matters gramps is that you've indirectly admitted you're a liar, you've proven you will grasp at straws no matter how wrong you are(Russia didn't even exist during WWII, deal with it old timer), you've proven your over-inflated sense of self-worth, and you have to set-up a specific scenario just so you can try to say KC Superman will stand-up to the sucker-punch. All while proving incapable of comprehending what my initial question was. That is all.

That and Kal-L wins.

Kc Superman tanked it without budging. Superman ne did not. Pretty clear. Kc superman could hear things Ne Superman could not. Direct comparison. Kc Superman wasn't hurt by k-nite at all while it's almost killed Ne Superman before.

Earth 22 wins. By comparison he was greater than Ne Superman while Kal-L was his equal.