Name the Top 5 Most Powerful Mutants.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Marvel: 1985 (mini)

Fantastic Four Adventures (1 issue)

Wolverine 2003 (one-shot)

Fantastic Four: Master of Doom (562-569)

I got em all, read em all, am I missing something,
where the MoD actually does something besides teleporting heroes and villains into his realm?

Besides making a star go super-nova?

Besides summoning Galactus? (impressive)

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Oh yea, you mean the ambiguous panel where he states he's "seen realms" where Eternity, Love and Hate are,
but never call them his "his" Gods, like he said "his heroes/villains"

Anyway,
not a single cameo of any Skyfather or better is depicted in the battle scene next page.

that wasn't summoning dummkopf. It was a metaphysical representation of a conflict between the MoD and his younger self. If it was a summoning then there would be a lot of dead characters as there was no one to resurrect them afterwards. So the MoD and Clyde's fight was them creating their champions... also we know it was a real fight because Reed was able to absorb real energy from the fight and redistribute it for seconds to the FF4... Oh and MoD is pretty casual at destroying universes when he actually does it and his multi-millenial sojourn is confirmed and he was pwning every universe he came across while he was at it. So all things considered I'm fairly certain he's come accross some pretty up their individuals trying to stop him and I'm pretty sure Eternity of the other universes would just sit around to be destroyed.

MoD comes it at number 1 on my list over Braddock, Jim and others. We'll never know 100% certainty how strong he was but considering it took himself, the combined power of their fight in the ff4 pummeling away at him and Doom who had been learning from him for a rather lengthy period of time.

Re: Name the Top 5 Most Powerful Mutants.

And still this:

1 - Marquis of Death
2 - Mad James Jaspers
3 - Adult Franklin Richards
4 - True Legion (David Haller)
5 - Jamie Bradock

We will be getting more info on Legion in the incoming months. On the other hand. If I wanted to extend the list, to the next 6-10.

6 - Darwin/Deadly Genesis Vulcan
Near limitless evolving ability, enough to usurp Hel's power.
7 - Proteus
Massive reality warping powers.
8 - Wanda
Hex magic is broken, and big enough to endanger the planet.
9 - Hope Summers
Can mimic any mutant power, or take control of them.
10 - New Sun
Massive energy manipulation, killed of all the known hero's in his reality.

1. Mad Jim Jaspers
2. Adult Franklin
3. Legion
4. Marquis of Death
5. Mr. M

Reason why Wanda isn't there is because of that phoenix-like entity in children's crusade altering her powers. Including her would mean including Jean Grey as well who doesn't seem that special base level.

extra

6. Proteus
7. Nate Grey
8. Cable (full potential)/ Stryfe
9. Gabriel Summers
10. Kid Omega
11. Apocalypse

Sans children crusade. In the whole, AvX fiasco. When Wanda collided with Hope. The world briefly turned into Lego Blocks.

That's very good and all but remember that hope mimiced Wanda's power (which hope normally amplifies) so we really don't know whether it's 1/2 or 1/3 or whatever percentage was Wanda's contribution to that feat. While impressive, that's waaay beyond her norm and what she's normally capable of drawing. That could be a high end feat but on average, she's not doing any planet wide stuff atm.

Re: Name the Top 5 Most Powerful Mutants.

1 - Marquis of Death
2 - True/Complete Legion
3 - Mad James Jaspers
4 - Adult Franklin Richards
5 - Jamie Bradock

For the purposes of this thread, are you considering child Franklin a completely different character than adult Franklin? If so, I'd put him over Jamie, personally...

6 - Proteus
7 - Onslaught (Minus Nate/Franklin)
8 - Shaman X-Man
9 - New Sun
10 - Vulcan (Deadly Genesis)

Originally posted by Galan007
For the purposes of this thread, are you considering child Franklin a completely different character than adult Franklin? If so, I'd put him over Jamie, personally...

Well I consider Child and Adult Franklin the same person. With the feats done and to be done canon to his older self.

Otherwise I have him higher too.

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Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Originally posted by "Id"
Well I consider Child and Adult Franklin the same person. With the feats done and to be done canon to his older self.

Otherwise I have him higher too.

I agree.

Case in point: child Franklin creating(what he perceived as) the Nexus of realities, along with ALL of the pocket realities within it:
http://imgur.com/Ciahha4

And as this scan confirms, there were "countless" realities:
http://i.imgur.com/OfklpGs.jpg

The kid is an absolute beast. 👆

Adult Franklin Richards
Mad James Jaspers
Marquis of Death
True/Complete Legion
Jamie Bradock

Franklin

Re: Re: Name the Top 5 Most Powerful Mutants.

1 - Marquis of Death
2 - True/Complete Legion
3 - Mad James Jaspers
4 - Adult Franklin Richards
5 - Jamie Bradock
6 - Proteus
7 - Onslought
8 - Shaman X-Man
9 - New Sun
10 - Hyperstorm
11 - Cable
12 - Apocalypse
13 - Cassandra Nova
14 - Vulcan
15 - Mr M

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Pretty much, though I'd personally transpose your 1 & 2, and possibly make an argument for Prodigy at #4 seeing as he was able to copy the power of the LT, bumping Legion to 5 and Jamie to 6 (unless you'd consider his power copying ability to be 'external amping'😉.

If we are counting Protege as a mutant, then is not an argument, he is #1 and it's not even close.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Lets not get into the Scathan argument . The fact that he could duplicate the power of the top dog among the Abstracts , puts him #1 in my book .

Indeed.

But we know Protege wasn't counted as mutant, at least not in such manner as Wanda, Franklin etc... and if not counting HOM Wanda and Phoenix:

1.) Mad Jim Jaspers
2.) Jaimie Braddock
3.) Franklin Richards

Id like to mention some powerful Mutants that nobody in this thread talked about (not that i have seen, at least).

Wanda's Children (Thomas & William) - Abstract level:

Avengers Forever v1 #8: They become powerful enough to challenge Eternity (alternate), and "rock the cosmos":

http://i.imgur.com/aEYdDmQ.jpg?1

2006 bio (Immortus' entry):

http://i.imgur.com/mJ0apgM.jpg?1

Although they're technically constructs, it was confirmed back in Avengers West Coast #52, that they possess mutant energies:

http://i.imgur.com/iGLeUXs.jpg?1

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Alfie O'Meagan - Universal-level:

Nth Man #16: Alfie gives John his own abilities with which he defeats M'Gubgub (a universal being) by collapsing M'Gubgub in on himself

http://i.imgur.com/ZGEsfq6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/p6qKkVv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MA9sFut.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/o5uA7BG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QOgKjhx.jpg

Just so we know how powerful M'Gubgub is: He eats Galaxies for breakfast:

http://i.imgur.com/MXg9NGv.jpg

Nth Man #14: His full form blocks half of the galaxy:

http://i.imgur.com/8ezG6Af.jpg

A being who dwarfs planet and has seen the death of universeS, flees when he hears the name of M'Gubgub:

http://i.imgur.com/FFsvkEl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fOirCdt.jpg

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Arcadia from X-Force - (Unknown-level, she definitely has reality warping abilities; and her power is implied to be universal, but she needed a certain stipulation to become a multiversal threat).

X-Force v1 #93: Rylor says that Moonstar has now the ability to tap into infinite universal energies (courtesy of Arcadia, back in issue #84, it was her who gave Moonstar that power):

http://i.imgur.com/5TPBZFu.jpg?1

Arcadia transformers into the "Queen of the Star Swords" (an evil version of herself). Those are from issue #100

The Queen creates the Cathedral:

http://i.imgur.com/uh6yabh.jpg

This Cathedral actually becomes a nexus point to all the infinite alternate realities:

http://i.imgur.com/r03bZcl.jpg?1

And all the alternate universes/realities started to merge:

http://i.imgur.com/QEd8Xjy.jpg?1

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Scotty Summer from Mutant-X - Close to Universal-level.

Defeating the Goblin Entity with a single gesture/thought (Mutant-X #12/#32):

http://i.imgur.com/fu62LfJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O7o5rah.jpg?1

There are quite several more, im having a hard time remembering them considering that they usually appear in one story (or a few). Although, most of them are mutants who possess reality warping abilities on a limited scale (like Proteus). But those are far from top tiers like MJJ, Jamie, Franklin, etc...

Originally posted by "Id"
3 - Mad James Jaspers
5 - Jamie Bradock

Does your ranking take into account that MJJ already spread his warp (where he has complete control), or not?

Makes a difference, imo. In a neutral ground, id give Jamie the edge, considering he empowered an alternate counterpart who casually warped a universe, and was also able to easily play with several realities (something MJJ can't do instantly, his warp takes time). Hell, id give Jamie a good chance even against MJJ with his warp (but eventually, the latter would win, imo), given that the Fury was resisting his reality warping abilities, and Jamie has demonstrated a resistance to reality warping, as well (in an issue of UXM, Jamie literally says that reality warpers like Proteus can't lay a finger on Betsy, since he made her immune). But on the other hand there's that weakness of Jamie's where a shape-shifter can resist him.

Originally posted by operator616
A being who dwarfs planet and has seen the death of universeS, flees when he hears the name of M'Gubgub:

http://i.imgur.com/FFsvkEl.jpg

Galactus: "I think you are totally awesome! [...] Lemme think a minute!"

Lol, that's right up there with this buffoonishness:
http://i.imgur.com/4vhJ2OI.jpg

^ 😂

Although, that's not Galactus. That's Alfie who took Galactus' form/shape.

Galactus merely exists as a comic book character in the Nth man reality.

Oh, lol.

Thank God.