Galactus vs. Scrier vs. The Other - The Mighty Thor Annual #1 SPOILERS/SCANS!

Originally posted by Nihilist
😂 all i did was point out you both act the same way about most characters.

Do i jerk off as much as you do to that shitty Chaos War/Chaos King?

Originally posted by zopzop
Hush fool! 😠 whip
I've repeatedly stated how much I hate the utter garbage that was Chaos War and Chaos King. But if it's on panel and canon then we have no choice but to acknowledge it. That PoS arc retconned 30+ years of Marvel history concerning the Gods and for no good reason. That recent retcon of CK being a mere aspect of Oblivion isn't enough for me. They have to retcon the whole damn event into being nothing more than a dream, then I'll be happy.

Originally posted by Nihilist
OK Big C

Typical Big C response

I like how Zopzop falls in love with the Odin/Seth fight, and nothing is said about it... until Galactus surpassed that feat.
And now it doesn't count because IG!

Logic via taking a nose dive.

Either way. Galactus took on two very powerful cosmic beings. And even tanked an amped "Godblast". It was a very respectful issue... to everyone... which is ****ing surprising.
Interesting issue if at times the wording seemed a little rushed, and some of the circumstances didn't make too much sense.
It would have been better if this was an arc me thinks, but if it revives Thor annuals, hell ****ing yes.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I like how Zopzop falls in love with the Odin/Seth fight, and nothing is said about it... until Galactus surpassed that feat.
And now it doesn't count because IG!

Logic via taking a nose dive.

Either way. Galactus took on two very powerful cosmic beings. And even tanked an amped "Godblast". It was a very respectful issue... to everyone... which is ****ing surprising.
Interesting issue if at times the wording seemed a little rushed, and some of the circumstances didn't make too much sense.
It would have been better if this was an arc me thinks, but if it revives Thor annuals, hell ****ing yes.

Agree. Big G was tanking attacks left & right. He even tanked Scriers eyebeams to the face. That was some sort of merged godblast wasn't it?

Is it just me or did this story seem like something that could've been designed for a Surfer series or 1 shot as opposed to Thor headlining?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Agree. Big G was tanking attacks left & right. He even tanked Scriers eyebeams to the face. That was some sort of merged godblast wasn't it?

Is it just me or did this story seem like something that could've been designed for a Surfer series or 1 shot as opposed to Thor headlining?

It was very cosmic. Mind you Thor was the character who got the most spotlight... oh wait, Scrier was.

Surfer seemed like he wasn't even there, neither did Rachel. Thor was secondish alongside Oblivion. Although now that I think of it... Thor was third.

Scrier Annual #1 IMO.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I like how Zopzop falls in love with the Odin/Seth fight, and nothing is said about it... until Galactus surpassed that feat.
And now it doesn't count because IG!

Logic via taking a nose dive.

According to narration (Odin/Seth fight) and third party comments (Galactus/Scrier/Other and Odin/Seth fights) both throwdowns out did the entire Cosmic Hierarchy (Galactus included) facing off vs Thanos (and later Nebula) with the IG. 🙄

Originally posted by zopzop
How did Galactus "surpass" the Odin/Seth fight? It was an unawakened Odin (when Odin awakened to his full power the fight was over fast) vs Seth. As opposed to Galactus/Scrier/Other. Two beings going at it vs Three beings going at it. Both fights were said to threaten reality. BFD.

According to narration (Odin/Seth fight) and third party comments (Galactus/Scrier/Other and Odin/Seth fights) both throwdowns out did the entire Cosmic Hierarchy (Galactus included) facing off vs Thanos (and later Nebula) with the IG. 🙄

Or Galactus vs two beings...

And why did you have no problem bringing up the Seth fight before for Odin, yet as soon as Galactus "comes close" it's now bullshit?
See, I don't care about the universe being in danger, I just think it's funny that your logic turns on a dime.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
One had Oblivion giddy with excitement, the other had Strange stating that tearing at the fabric of the multiverse could imperil untold galaxies.

Or Galactus vs two beings...

And why did you have no problem bringing up the Seth fight before for Odin, yet as soon as Galactus "comes close" it's now bullshit?
See, I don't care about the universe being in danger, I just think it's funny that your logic turns on a dime.

Originally posted by zopzop

Dr. Strange, Jean Grey, the Surfer, the narrator...

That's still THREE PEOPLE : Galactus + TWO others = THREE BEINGS. As opposed to an unawakened Odin vs Seth, which are only TWO BEINGS.

I've brought it up before when I was arguing with Rage. If we accept third party comments (Oblivion, Dr. Strange, Jean Grey, Surfer) or the Narrator then the Odin/Seth and Galactus/Scrier/Other death matches outdid the entire Cosmic Hierarchy (which INCLUDED Galactus) vs Thanos (and then later Nebula) with the IG in power output. [/B]

What the **** does that matter when it's Galactus fighting these two beings? One was throwing planets at Galactus like the Celestials did against Thanos, and the other (heh, what a stupid name) was doing stuff.... The two on their own were capable of destroying the universe apparently, and add in Galactus fighting both of these guys... Yeah.

Then you changed your mind earlier when it suited your needs, because it used to be the reason Odin was firmly above Galactus in your opinion.

Either way, collateral damage isn't a good basis for power, that I agree with, however, it also doesn't mean something is badly written (especially when you're using one of the most powerful battles in comics that was only like star system level as your defense). It's just subjective in comics. You can't write everything as universe destroying.

You know what was really badly written though? Seth partaking in a battle that threatened anything. That guy is terrible.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Jean Grey said that before Seth even fought Odin...
Don't recall the narrator saying it, but he did in the Galactus fight (Oblivion), along with Rachel, Scrier, and seemingly the Other.

What the **** does that matter when it's Galactus fighting these two beings? One was throwing planets at Galactus like the Celestials did against Thanos, and the other (heh, what a stupid name) was doing stuff.... The two on their own were capable of destroying the universe apparently, and add in Galactus fighting both of these guys... Yeah.

Then you changed your mind earlier when it suited your needs, because it used to be the reason Odin was firmly above Galactus in your opinion.

Either way, collateral damage isn't a good basis for power, that I agree with, however, it also doesn't mean something is badly written (especially when you're using one of the most powerful battles in comics that was only like star system level as your defense). It's just subjective in comics. You can't write everything as universe destroying.

You know what was really badly written though? Seth partaking in a battle that threatened anything. That guy is terrible.

Oh and Seth is garbage, at least we can agree on that.

Originally posted by zopzop
All I'm saying is that Marvel needs to get their sh|t together "cosmic" story wise. It's all over the place.

Oh and Seth is garbage, at least we can agree on that.

He's not good, that's for sure.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Meh, I think Starlin just didn't have a good grasp of how much havok a battle like that could theoretically wreck. Plus the time that things are written too could have something to do with it.
Or most people don't tbh, and that's why it should pretty much only be a "oh cool, this is interesting" as opposed to being used in a debate.

He's not good, that's for sure.

Wasn't Odin vs Seth DeFalco though?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
The odin and set fight threatin the entire multiverse, multiverse>reality=1 universe. galactus still sucks.

also if mikaboshi is indeed merly an aspect of oblivion the oblivion>eternity and the other abstracts sans LT. chaos king made Death flee.

What gives you the idea that a multiverse (singular) is greater than reality? Aren't they nearly the same thing? I'd say that having all power over reality holds equal weight to having all power over the multiverse, or perhaps even more in terms of manipulation feats or stunts.

Originally posted by zopzop
How did Galactus "surpass" the Odin/Seth fight? It was an unawakened Odin (when Odin awakened to his full power the fight was over fast) vs Seth. As opposed to Galactus/Scrier/Other. Two beings going at it vs Three beings going at it. Both fights were said to threaten reality. BFD.

Because Galactus took on TWO Odin/Seth++ levels beings and no sold everything they had to offer (the reverse isn't true), one shot 6 planetary bodies when they were thrown at him (ON PANEL), and had Oblivion drooling at the prospect of these three cosmic heavyweights collapsing reality.

The Surfer merely stated the Odin/Seth battle could "rock the continuum", Dr. Strange initially flipped out but reigned in his assessment with his second sentence, and the omniscient narrator merely stated that "dying galaxies" were destroyed and that "dying suns were reignited"...none of which was shown on panel. Galactus not only "surpassed" the Odin/Seth fight, he blew it out of the water.

According to narration (Odin/Seth fight) and third party comments (Galactus/Scrier/Other and Odin/Seth fights) both throwdowns out did the entire Cosmic Hierarchy (Galactus included) facing off vs Thanos (and later Nebula) with the IG. 🙄

Well, Scrier did replicate the Celestial feat in IG, and Galactus replicated Thanos'/IG's response. This was a major cosmic throwdown.

The IG fight showed massive spatial distortions caused by the battle, the Odin/Seth fight did not. Really, the Odin/Seth fight relied on a lot of silver age-style hyperbole/exposition to lend itself gravitas, while the IG fight and the Galactus/Scrier/Other fight was portrayed as very literal with on-panel support.

Is the context in the Thor Annual#1 not mentioned?Didn't Oblivion stated that if Scrier and the Other fought near the Barricade, it will give what Oblivion what he wants.The destruction of the Multiverse due to Scrier and the Other fighting near the Barricade.

BTW I'm not low balling but merely pointing out the circumstances involved.Scrier's and the Other's fighting near the Barricade is the equivalent of 2 guys with sledge hammers fighting each other inside the house.And the most important pillar of the house got hit accidentally due to the fight.Therefore collapsing the house in the process.That is the equivalent of Scrier and the Other fighting.Add Big G to the mix and it would speed up the process.

Originally posted by Igniz
Is the context in the Thor Annual#1 not mentioned?Didn't Oblivion stated that if Scrier and the Other fought near the Barricade, it will give what Oblivion what he wants.The destruction of the Multiverse due to Scrier and the Other fighting near the Barricade.

BTW I'm not low balling but merely pointing out the circumstances involved.Scrier's and the Other's fighting near the Barricade is the equivalent of 2 guys with sledge hammers fighting each other inside the house.And the most important pillar of the house got hit accidentally due to the fight.Therefore collapsing the house in the process.That is the equivalent of Scrier and the Other fighting.Add Big G to the mix and it would speed up the process.

Actually Scrier had already revealed to Thor that Asgard's displacement to Earth had weakened his Barricade , and from his statements it doesn't take a genius to figure out that if 2 super-cosmic heavyweights like himself and the Other(let alone an addition like Galactus) fought near it , the fallout from their fight would break the Barricade , then what would follow would make the Chaos War look like a prelude in comparison and it would result in the annihilation of all universes(according to Oblivion) .

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Scrier Annual #1 IMO.

I need to highlight this comment because its quite true.

Which comics are you guys referring to? What issues?