Originally posted by zopzopMust, record the effects of unnatural yellow imagery...
hug
Causing strange, unpleasant desire to "cuddle" something.
Also, the corners of mouth...curving upward in some unfamiliar gesture.
Increasingly difficult to berate or degrade others.
Experiencing a horrible feeling of well-being and fellowship.
Erasing my usual need to harm all things weak, small and harmless.
Truly diabolical.
Originally posted by Horrificus
If you go back and read all of my posts, you will see that I have already addressed and defeated any points you have made, that were pertinent to this debate.Mostly, before you even showed up and posted your points.
I just don't like to keep answering the same things over and over.
And, I don't want to insult you. Well, I do, but I'm fighting it.
This debate is already won.
What this character or that character was thinking or feeling, described through our opinions, means nothing.
All that matters is what happened on panel. We have 2 fights to review.
You can basically go through each one and add up effective attacks, effective defenses, and the effects of each. You can see the damage, read the dialogue and review the end results, side by side, through the scans I have presented.
Actually that isn't close to true... you can't COUNTER ANY OF THE POINTS i have made below... Please amuse me and try...
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Horrificus.... It's really very simple and all there on panel. These are the facts you can't get around...1. Thanos WANTED to fight Tyrant and went LOOKING for a fight
A. This is in STARK contrast to his encounter with Odin. he went seeking Odin's help not to fight him... You don't KO or Kill someone you're trying to seek help from for a bigger problem2. Thanos PREPPED for his battle with Tyrant... he studied tyrant and even gained an amp for his battle with Tyrant
A. Again is in STARK contrst to his encounter with Odin. he neither prepped nor had an amp for Odin3. Tyrant never admitted Thanos was in his league of power, the only thning credit he gave Thanos was that he was more powerful than the others that attacked him
A. Again this is in STARK contrast to the praise Odin gave Thanos.. Comparing his power reserves to that of his... saying he hadn't found such a tough foe in EONS4. In his fight with Tyrant while amped and prepped... Thanos AGREED with Tyrant that if he stayed..Tyrant would kill him
A. That is is in STARK contrast to his conversation with Odin. Odin tried MULTIPLE times to get Thanos to back down or admit he was far above Thanos... Thanost NEVER backed down nor admitted Odin was out of his league5. Tyrant beat Thanos is much quicker time
A. Odin took longer to get the better of ThanosSeems very easy to conclude from the battles with Thanos.. That Tyrant is further above Thanos than Odin is. Very simple really and I'm not sure why it's being made so complicated or twisted.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosiok
Horrificus.... It's really very simple and all there on panel. These are the facts you can't get around...
1. Thanos WANTED to fight Tyrant and went LOOKING for a fightYou are misrepresenting the situations.
A. This is in STARK contrast to his encounter with Odin. he went seeking Odin's help not to fight him... You don't KO or Kill someone you're trying to seek help from for a bigger problem
2. Thanos PREPPED for his battle with Tyrant... he studied tyrant and even gained an amp for his battle with TyrantThanos grabbed 1 orb. Tyrant taps thousands. The orb made zero difference.
A. Again is in STARK contrst to his encounter with Odin. he neither prepped nor had an amp for Odin
3. Tyrant never admitted Thanos was in his league of power, the only thning credit he gave Thanos was that he was more powerful than the others that attacked himNot really caring about either statements. Just the outcomes.
A. Again this is in STARK contrast to the praise Odin gave Thanos.. Comparing his power reserves to that of his... saying he hadn't found such a tough foe in EONS
4. In his fight with Tyrant while amped and prepped... Thanos AGREED with Tyrant that if he stayed..Tyrant would kill himYou still have to show the "amp" and "prep". The orb was negligible.
A. That is is in STARK contrast to his conversation with Odin. Odin tried MULTIPLE times to get Thanos to back down or admit he was far above Thanos... Thanost NEVER backed down nor admitted Odin was out of his league
5. Tyrant beat Thanos is much quicker timeI have no idea how long either battle took to complete. I do know that, regardless of time, Odin had more effect on Thanos, less of a struggle and probably spent half the time finding where he blasted the body of Thanos after each volley.
A. Odin took longer to get the better of Thanos
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Pretty much... He didn't counter ANY of my points and just basically said nah those statements don't matter or count for anything... That pretty much sums up what he calls a retort.
That's what happens during the mist of defeat.
He should either admit his judgment is off or simply not post a response at all. Anything but continuing to show KMC he is lacking in several mental departments.
I did counter the points that I thought were worth countering. It is you guys who are not being specific. Now, if you want to say that my stance is wrong, that's fine. But, at least point out which ones and why.
Because, yeah, you are just being a couple of rude 'tards. And, no, this thread isn't at the top of my priority list. And, hell no, you guys aren't giving any kind of argument at all. At least, nothing worth my time, scans and brainpower.
You are simply, "wrong". Which is why you instantly fall back on being rude and negative, where there was no reason for it.
Now, run along and continue buggering each other.
You said Thanos didn't prep for Tyrant and he wasn't seeking a battle on looking for the orb.. that couldn't be further from the truth. Thanos makes it clear via on panel narration.. He's is looking to test his might against a worth foe... Doesn't get more clear than that. He also preps by studying tyrant in many ways... first by hacking into his computer.. then by seeking out Terrax to learn more about him... How can you with a straight face say he didn't want to fight Tyrant and didn't prep for Tyrant is beyond me. The reality is this...
Thanos was prepped and amped and looking for a fight against Tyrant. Even with all that left in a much shorter period of time admitting Tyrant would kill him if he left... This is vastly different than Odin..
WIth Odin, he wasn't looking for a fight and didn't prep for one nor have an amp for that fight. He went there seeking Odin's help. During their fight, unlike with Tyrant, Thanos NEVER backed down from Tyrant nor admitted Odin was superior despite numerous attempts by Odin to get thanod to do so.
Pretty cut and dry
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI said that he was looking for a test skirmish with Tyrant. You should actually read my posts before ridiculing.
You said Thanos didn't prep for Tyrant and he wasn't seeking a battle on looking for the orb.. that couldn't be further from the truth. Thanos makes it clear via on panel narration.. He's is looking to test his might against a worth foe... Doesn't get more clear than that. He also preps by studying tyrant in many ways... first by hacking into his computer.. then by seeking out Terrax to learn more about him... How can you with a straight face say he didn't want to fight Tyrant and didn't prep for Tyrant is beyond me. The reality is this...Thanos was prepped and amped and looking for a fight against Tyrant. Even with all that left in a much shorter period of time admitting Tyrant would kill him if he left... This is vastly different than Odin..
WIth Odin, he wasn't looking for a fight and didn't prep for one nor have an amp for that fight. He went there seeking Odin's help. During their fight, unlike with Tyrant, Thanos NEVER backed down from Tyrant nor admitted Odin was superior despite numerous attempts by Odin to get thanod to do so.
Pretty cut and dry
I just don't think it mattered. He showed no prep. Just because he got info on Tyrant does not change anything. He still walked right in and started brawling. Just as he did with Odin.
Otherwise, according to you, any time a character knows the background of any opposing character, that is classified as "prep".
The only difference, as far as I'm concerned, is that Odin had been fighting the other members of the Infinity Watch and had just taken out the Silver Surfer before Thanos stepped in.
So, Odin had just laughed off other attacks, including strikes from SS, then he faces off with Thanos, and spanks him like a little child.
Again you just can't admit when you're wrong... SHOW ME narration that says he was looking for a test skirmish with Tyrant. What in fact the narration is.. he's looking to test his might and searching for a foe to do so... Regardless, the issue was you disagreeing with the fact that Thanos was LOOKING for a fight, which in fact he was.
The next problem you have is your disagreement that Thanos prepped for Tyrant...when he UNQUESTIONABLY did. Yes, studying an opponent before you fight them IS considered prep. Yet, the prep even goes beyond that to solidify it AS prep... When you study your opponent looking for a way to beat them and FIND a weakness of theirs and try and exploit it.. That is 100% what prep is and EXACTLY what Thanos did before he met Tyrant, and again, exactly the opposite of what he did with Odin on pretty much every level.
Don't give me this he was fighting Drax and Surfer nonsense... he pretty much one shot them with ease. To say nothing of the fact that Thanos had an een harder road before Odin... Fought PG Thor in a decent fight... then showed up in Asgard and fought their Army before Odin showed up.
Lastly, and this is something you can't get around. Thanos felt both Tyrant's and Odin power... Yet, with Odin Thanos NEVER backed down from Odin nor felt like he was out of his league or Odin would kill him despite numerous attempts by Odin to have thanos admit this.. Yet with Tyrant, who he prepped for and was amped for... he backed down and admitted Tyrant woudl kill him.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Again you just can't admit when you're wrong... SHOW ME narration that says he was looking for a test skirmish with Tyrant. What in fact the narration is.. he's looking to test his might and searching for a foe to do so... Regardless, the issue was you disagreeing with the fact that Thanos was LOOKING for a fight, which in fact he was.The next problem you have is your disagreement that Thanos prepped for Tyrant...when he UNQUESTIONABLY did. Yes, studying an opponent before you fight them IS considered prep. Yet, the prep even goes beyond that to solidify it AS prep... When you study your opponent looking for a way to beat them and FIND a weakness of theirs and try and exploit it.. That is 100% what prep is and EXACTLY what Thanos did before he met Tyrant, and again, exactly the opposite of what he did with Odin on pretty much every level.
Don't give me this he was fighting Drax and Surfer nonsense... he pretty much one shot them with ease. To say nothing of the fact that Thanos had an een harder road before Odin... Fought PG Thor in a decent fight... then showed up in Asgard and fought their Army before Odin showed up.
Lastly, and this is something you can't get around. Thanos felt both Tyrant's and Odin power... Yet, with Odin Thanos NEVER backed down from Odin nor felt like he was out of his league or Odin would kill him despite numerous attempts by Odin to have thanos admit this.. Yet with Tyrant, who he prepped for and was amped for... he backed down and admitted Tyrant woudl kill him.
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Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiFirst of all, this point means nothing. Second, you are not reading my posts. I said "test skirmish" as a nod to finding somebody to test his might against.
[B]Again you just can't admit when you're wrong... SHOW ME narration that says he was looking for a test skirmish with Tyrant. What in fact the narration is.. he's looking to test his might and searching for a foe to do so... Regardless, the issue was you disagreeing with the fact that Thanos was LOOKING for a fight, which in fact he was.
The next problem you have is your disagreement that Thanos prepped for Tyrant...when he UNQUESTIONABLY did. Yes, studying an opponent before you fight them IS considered prep. Yet, the prep even goes beyond that to solidify it AS prep... When you study your opponent looking for a way to beat them and FIND a weakness of theirs and try and exploit it.. That is 100% what prep is and EXACTLY what Thanos did before he met Tyrant, and again, exactly the opposite of what he did with Odin on pretty much every level.Thanos learned nothing about Tyrant that was used during the fight. He simply strolled in and gave Tyrant a better fight than he gave Odin. Unless you can show different. You need to prove your point.
Don't give me this he was fighting Drax and Surfer nonsense... he pretty much one shot them with ease. To say nothing of the fact that Thanos had an een harder road before Odin... Fought PG Thor in a decent fight... then showed up in Asgard and fought their Army before Odin showed up.It is not nonsense.
Lastly, and this is something you can't get around. Thanos felt both Tyrant's and Odin power... Yet, with Odin Thanos NEVER backed down from Odin nor felt like he was out of his league or Odin would kill him despite numerous attempts by Odin to have thanos admit this.. Yet with Tyrant, who he prepped for and was amped for... he backed down and admitted Tyrant woudl kill him.How Thanos felt or thought is trumped by the actual events of the fights.
Also, Thanos did not have an "amp". When compared to the thousands of orbs Tyrant taps, Thanos having one, is completely inconsequential. He simply wanted to study it.
Your "prep" argument means nothing unless you can show how Thanos used his prep for Tyrant.
Originally posted by Horrificus
First of all, this point means nothing. Second, you are not reading my posts. I said "test skirmish" as a nod to finding somebody to test his might against.Thanos learned nothing about Tyrant that was used during the fight. He simply strolled in and gave Tyrant a better fight than he gave Odin. Unless you can show different. You need to prove your point.
It is not nonsense.
This has already been hashed out in other threads.
Before he fought against Odin, Thanos was simply standing on a hill, having a conversation. He was fresh.
Odin was fighting with Drax and Surfer. And, you are low-balling that. Kudos!How Thanos felt or thought is trumped by the actual events of the fights.
You are trying to delve into the thoughts of Thanos and use it to negate how badly he was beaten by Odin, in comparison to Tyrant.
It doesn't wash. Results and events will always be more important that the little statements made here and there in a comic. Especially weak examples, such as the one you are mentioning. I have already addressed it, and you re simply ignoring what I stated.
I can beat the hell out of somebody and still admit that, if given the chance, they would kill me. It does not mean that I am not the better fighter and I have just beaten the crap out of them.Also, Thanos did not have an "amp". When compared to the thousands of orbs Tyrant taps, Thanos having one, is completely inconsequential. He simply wanted to study it.
Your "prep" argument means nothing unless you can show how Thanos used his prep for Tyrant.
Your choice of image sucks.
Why didn't you picked the last one of each fight?