Originally posted by TheGodKillerI generally don't qualify phoenix as part of anyones power set. It's clearly its own entity that empowers others. It would be like saying that Strange nearly beat World War Hulk w/ his powers as sorcerer supreme while in reality it was the power of him being possessed by a zomling. So I generally don't include any Phoenix host in a higher tier than what they are capable of on their own simply because it isn't their power.
Jenny Quantum : Most definitely deserves the title .Hope Summers : Far too much hyperbole , very few feats . No surprise there , since she's got "teh phoenix connection" .
Scarlet Witch : Never really was that powerful . Her uber HOM feats came from the Life-Force amp .
Sue Richards : Apart from being the Celestials' kryptonite , hasn't done anything of significance that would put her even high-herald tier .