Hulk vs Thor-One Last Time

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk - Masterson beats the shit out of him. Maybe if it was earlier in his run where he was very inexperienced and had confidence issues, Fixit would win, but his raw strength rivaled beings like Gladiator and as it was outright stated he was more powerful than all the other heroes present against Thanos, including the heralds, Drax, Hulk etc. He had all that raw power, he just had no idea how to access and use it most of the time.

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk (Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightning/attacks) - If they just go punch for punch, Hulk eventually. I guess Thor could knock Hulk out with a powerful blow, but he doesn't wind up and charge with that type of power against peers unless it's like Fraction or something.

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk (Hand to Hand to the death) - Made pretty clear that Thor would have won, Professor Hulk got so angry that he almost reverted to Banner and Thor wasn't even going all out.

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk (Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.) - Depends on what Thor does at the best of his abilities, if he fights his usual 'all-out' way, it'll be similar to Sentry, but if he goes for the huge lightning bolts, God Blast or whatever, he wins.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk - The one that fought Bor and such? He takes it comfortably.

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk - Thor.

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk - Thor atomizes him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk - Masterson beats the shit out of him. Maybe if it was earlier in his run where he was very inexperienced and had confidence issues, Fixit would win, but his raw strength rivaled beings like Gladiator and as it was outright stated he was more powerful than all the other heroes present against Thanos, including the heralds, Drax, Hulk etc. He had all that raw power, he just had no idea how to access and use it most of the time.

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk (Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightning/attacks) - If they just go punch for punch, Hulk eventually. I guess Thor could knock Hulk out with a powerful blow, but he doesn't wind up and charge with that type of power against peers unless it's like Fraction or something.

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk (Hand to Hand to the death) - Made pretty clear that Thor would have won, Professor Hulk got so angry that he almost reverted to Banner and Thor wasn't even going all out.

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk (Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.) - Depends on what Thor does at the best of his abilities, if he fights his usual 'all-out' way, it'll be similar to Sentry, but if he goes for the huge lightning bolts, God Blast or whatever, he wins.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk - The one that fought Bor and such? He takes it comfortably.

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk - Thor.

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk - Thor atomizes him.

👆

Originally posted by Damborgson
1.Masterson Thor vs Grey Hulk

2. Standard Thor vs Savage Hulk - Thor can charge his hammer but not use long range lightining/attacks

3. Standard Thor vs Professor Hulk- Hand to Hand to the death

4. Standard Thor vs Pak World War Hulk - Thor replaces the sentry against Green Scar in WWH and will fight to the best of his ability to put Hulk down. Same goes for Hulk of course.

5. JMS Odin Force Thor vs Nul Hulk

6. Pre-Reigning King Thor vs Holding Back WB Hulk

7. Peak King Thor vs Peak HOTM Hulk

NO BFR IN ANY OF THESE MATCHES. WHO WINS?

no RKT? 🙂

Originally posted by vansonbee
1. Thor
2. Thor 6/10
3. Hulk
4. Hulk
5. Thor
7. Hulk

no RKT? 🙂

nope to unfair

Originally posted by carver9
Your first scan, Thor bfred Nul and koed himself. Bfr is off in this battle.

Does not matter Carver, this is a win for Thor and Hulk was running with extra juice

Originally posted by carver9
Your second scan, that was a stalemate.

Which I stated

Originally posted by carver9
Your third scan, Hulk bfred the hell out of Thor and could have won if he wasn't trying to save Thor life.

Do you have proof of this? or this is just speculation?
Both characters were fighting beyond normal levels

Originally posted by carver9
Fourth scan, Thor won.

Yes

Originally posted by carver9
Fifth scan, same battle, Thor already carrying a koed Hulk to another dimension, he already won that battle and that wouldn't have happened if Hulk was awake.

Oh I was just pointing out, how Thor can BFR Hulk, nothing else

Originally posted by carver9
Sixth scan, lol, Thor damaged Hulk jet pack. Lol at you considering that a win.

Did He continued fighting or was he effectively removed from the fight? I think is a win, with context or a huge asterisk, but a Win for Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Seventh scan, Hulk was weakened. He was weakened to the point that if he amped his strength, he would revert back to Bruce Banner. Do you even know about the scans you post?

Yes, I know and what you wrote will be really useful for the next point.

Originally posted by carver9
Eighth scan, lol, Thor got thrashed in that fight.

So You complained that on the previous scan Hulk was not at full power, but somehow LOL and say Thor was trashed, because He did not used his hammer in this fight?

Originally posted by carver9
Ninth scan, stalemate.

Yes

Originally posted by carver9
Tenth scan, stalemate.

Yes

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is greater than Heralds because of his showings against them.

A lot of stalemates vs Thor put him above heralds?

Originally posted by carver9
Moral of story, you don't know what you are talking about.

Sure. 😉

Originally posted by biensalsa
Does not matter Carver, this is a win for Thor and Hulk was running with extra juice

No no no no no. According to Carver, the hammer, protective spells, and stats increase actually weakens Hulk. WWH+ amps = family man level or so

Originally posted by Damborgson
No no no no no. According to Carver, the hammer, protective spells, and stats increase actually weakens Hulk. WWH+ amps = family man level or so

Sometimes is hard to tell if Carver is serious or joking.

But that ^ is funny sh1t

Originally posted by Damborgson
No no no no no. According to Carver, the hammer, protective spells, and stats increase actually weakens Hulk. WWH+ amps = family man level or so

another thing is that sure that hulk was green "scar/world breaker" during the transformation into nul, however he was still in the mindset of holding back the 90% of the iceberg he showed in HOTM. he was stronger than base green scar/WB but to assume he was more powerful than that same green scar/WB when he's going all out is unfounded

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not that i agree with carver, but technically speaking there is a precedent to his argument as beta ray bill doesn't get his thor power stacked ontop of his cyborg strength, strength rivaling classic thor's.

another thing is that sure that hulk was green "scar/world breaker" during the transformation into nul, however he was still in the mindset of holding back the 90% of the iceberg he showed in HOTM. he was stronger than base green scar/WB but to assume he was more powerful than that same green scar/WB when he's going all out is unfounded

I get the concept but here's why it's different to me:

Beta Ray Bill received nothing else other than storm breaker and some cool clothes. Nul likewise received a hammer, protective runes or some such and a stated stat increase.

Nul was weaker than WBH was of course. But he wasn't weaker than WWH/Green Scar. There's no possible way to say that someone receives an amp and actually goes backwards in power. (unless you're colossus)

Of course he wasn't at WB levels but superior to the Hulk who fought in the WWH arc before reaching WBH levels doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me. If it's the same persona, and you give him extra power, plus a similar aggressive mindset then it should result in him being stronger/more powerful. Of course even Nul held back at certain times, but so did WWH. Thats how I see it anyway.

WWH>>Nul and there is nothing proving otherwise.

Originally posted by carver9
WWH>>Nul and there is nothing proving otherwise.

edit* good, i actually still don't agree with carver then.

Originally posted by carver9
WWH>>Nul and there is nothing proving otherwise.

Besides the amps?

Originally posted by carver9
WWH>>Nul and there is nothing proving otherwise.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Besides the amps?

There wasn't any amps...especially looking at everything shown on panel. He was a mild WWH with a hammer.

facepalm

Carver, shut up.

Originally posted by carver9
There wasn't any amps...especially looking at everything shown on panel. He was a mild WWH with a hammer.

Originally posted by iceman24567
So all the worthy were amped except Hulk? 😆

You cant amp a being thats stronger than you amirite

Originally posted by Damborgson
Of course he wasn't at WB levels but superior to the Hulk who fought in the WWH arc before reaching WBH levels doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me. If it's the same persona, and you give him extra power, plus a similar aggressive mindset then it should result in him being stronger/more powerful. Of course even Nul held back at certain times, but so did WWH. Thats how I see it anyway.

Hulk's was amped theres's no doubt about that, but honestly I can see why Carver doesn't consider a Hulk taking on Thor with an almost equally powerful partner, a Mjolnir equivalent, not holding back, amped, weather manipulation etc and still getting smacked around by Thor as equal to a Green Scar who defeated Sentry while holding back in WWH.

Thor wins everyone except for number 2.

There I would possibly give the edge to Hulk cause H2H is his specialty but Thor still has powerful hammer blows he can unleash.