Batman vs. Guile

Started by psycho gundam5 pages

yeah, i didn't want to say anything cause you were completely out of it, now that you're sober we can point and laugh

I don't remember pretty much anything I did after I took them.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
As far as I'm concerned SF canon is SF canon.

The Udon comics are officially recognized as canon; animated shows/movies, not so much unless they're the ones that came with the actual games.

Udon, the most official of the animated flicks (like the SFIV one, which ties in pretty closely with the game), and the biggest of the manga (like the Sakura one, which introduced her *before* the game she came out in to build her up) are pretty close in line with each other, with the Udon coming at the lowest of the three.

Then there's the game itself, which is basically similar, but has the odd high-end feat that stand out from the rest, exclusively by Akuma.

That's where SF power tends to cluster the most. I use Udon, because it has the fewest outliers and, well, it's also really good ^^

When your feats are entirely consistent, they cease being "odd".

Originally posted by psycho gundam
😂

Stolen.

Guile

I never lost whenever i played as guile at the air-force base

Originally posted by NemeBro
When your feats are entirely consistent, they cease being "odd".

I'd say the sub-sinking and the island smashing still qualifies as 'odd' in comparison to the scale of the other stuff.

In Udon, the biggest feats of area destruction are Charlie's cliff drop and Rose blasting Bison into a building, for example. The manga doesn't have any as big as those two.

Originally posted by Q99
I'd say the sub-sinking and the island smashing still qualifies as 'odd' in comparison to the scale of the other stuff.

In Udon, the biggest feats of area destruction are Charlie's cliff drop and Rose blasting Bison into a building, for example. The manga doesn't have any as big as those two.

Both by much weaker characters.

Akuma's feats are consistent with their own, and when scaled off similarly powerful characters like Shin Bison.

Batman easily

Like Nelson Mandela said. " You're gonna look real funny eating corn on the cob with a penis in your mouth."

I think I may have quoted that wrong.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Both by much weaker characters.

Akuma's feats are consistent with their own, and when scaled off similarly powerful characters like Shin Bison.

I don't think even Shin Bison's come close.

The problem I have with Akuma's feats isn't that they're stronger. It's that they're many orders of magnitude stronger than anyone else's, even though the weaker fighters can still fight against him to an extent.

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Though still behind some of the Fighting Evolution ones, wherein Akuma destroys a large astroid headed to Earth, and Rose seals Pyron from Darkstalkers in a card ^^

^ that's non-canon

all of that shit fails in comparison to oni vs Asura

Originally posted by Q99
I don't think even Shin Bison's come close.

The problem I have with Akuma's feats isn't that they're stronger. It's that they're many orders of magnitude stronger than anyone else's, even though the weaker fighters can still fight against him to an extent.

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Though still behind some of the Fighting Evolution ones, wherein Akuma destroys a large astroid headed to Earth, and Rose seals Pyron from Darkstalkers in a card ^^

Shin Bison has survived a nuclear explosion (Albeit he was injured pretty badly), and can destroy cities with the Psycho Drive.

Name one weaker character who can stand against Akuma at all. Keep in mind that Ryu only "beat" Akuma in SFA2 because Akuma was, as always, holding back.

Really... It's fairly natural progression. Chun-Li can destroy a city block with a kikouken, and it required a team of Chunny-lite characters and stronger beating on him over prolonged periods and shit to really put down Bison. Plus the aforementioned nuclear explosion.

To use an example you would be familiar with, let's say Setsuna from Negima is roughly the equivelant in relative portrayal to Chun-Li. Setsuna can destroy, at best, a fairly large building under her own power. Now let's compare that to Jack Rakan. Who vaporises a mountain accidently with a joke attack. Jack Rakan being roughly Akuma tier in portrayal.

Akuma is portrayed as one of, if not the strongest Street Fighter character. Him being able to destroy mountains or islands when those much weaker can only destroy city blocks isn't that outlandish, IMHO.

quick question, where does ryu rate in the overall street fighter power ranking? How is he compared to akuma, bison, or juri?

Originally posted by emporerpants
quick question, where does ryu rate in the overall street fighter power ranking? How is he compared to akuma, bison, or juri?

Ryu without the Satsui No Hadou is one of the "elites", but not on the level of Akuma or Bison, let alone their "Shin" forms.

could ryu take juri?

I think he could, yeah.

Alright, awesome, thanks!

Juri will whoop Juri's ass until he goes Evil Ryu.

As tough as Ryu is I don't see him soloing the dolls and oneshotting Chun, Guile and Cammy.