Thanos vs FP Kuurth

Yeah I pretty much agree buddy... It may not work on Kuurth and he may have to make it physical.. which as you point is.. is going to be a long long battle to be sure. Plus, as you point out.. he might not even decided to go the TP route right away and just try h2h and blasting Kurrth which would more than likely not have much of an effect. Even still, the best case for Kuurth is a stalemate.. I don't see Kurrth having the power to put Thanos down and especially if Thanos fought smart. It could just be an endless stalemate before Thanos gets tired of the battle and leaves. I just believe, that much like with Champion, Thanos would use his intelligence and resourcefullness to find a way to beat Kuurth... Maybe not though as Kuurth was beatly.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Fallen One, Maker, Galactus and recently Hulk (who has a long history of resisting mind rape by countless people) plus his extensive history of resisting and beating the most powerful TPers in Marvel... Moondragon with the mind gem... Moondragon and xavier... The 3 powerful telepaths in T.I. couldn't even mind rape him in a weakened state..

He turned Fallen One into a complete slave during AW. IIRC he pretty much laughed off a Moondragon tp assault in that arc as well. During TI Moondragon, Mantis, and Cosmo were able to take him out briefly in his weakened stated. They stated a few pages later that they were not able to get in his mind anymore. Cosmo added that he did not want to touch his mind anymore at all. Thanos must've regained enough of his strength by that time. Thanos is almost always portrayed as being leagues above high end telepaths.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He turned Fallen One into a complete slave during AW. IIRC he pretty much laughed off a Moondragon tp assault in that arc as well. During TI Moondragon, Mantis, and Cosmo were able to take him out briefly in his weakened stated. They stated a few pages later that they were not able to get in his mind anymore. Cosmo added that he did not want to touch his mind anymore at all. Thanos must've regained enough of his strength by that time. Thanos is almost always portrayed as being leagues above high end telepaths.

No he isn't. A high end telepath is Proffesor X. Thanos is not above him.
Nor is he above Emma with Cerebro.

Are you joking.. Moondragon AND Xavier couldn't get into his mind and he fought them over easily.. even laughed at them for thinking they could get in his mind. He beat Moondragon WITH the Mind gem.. who is above Prof. X and did so easily. He is above Prof. X and Emma.. and it's really not that close.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Are you joking.. Moondragon AND Xavier couldn't get into his mind and he fought them over easily.. even laughed at them for thinking they could get in his mind. He beat Moondragon WITH the Mind gem.. who is above Prof. X and did so easily. He is above Prof. X and Emma.. and it's really not that close.

Not getting into someone's mind doesn't mean you can mindrape better than them. There are beings in comics with resistance to mindrape but cannot mindrape well (or at all).

Although irrelevant, how did he beat Moondragon with the Mind gem and what proof do you have that she is above Prof. X?

Parker Robbins, a complete noob, was stalemating and getting the edge on Xavier using the Mind Gem. And it was stated many times that Robbins was the least experienced and skilled weilder of the Infinity Gems to date. He wasn't even actively tapping into the Mind Gem's power either, just using instinct.

and as we know and jake know, Parker Robbins is no Moondragon with the gem or without...

While I agree that a user of the mind gem gains telepathy > Xavier, and the like, I still don't see how TP resistance(defense) is being equated to TP output(offense)?

Personally, I have no problem with the notion that Thanos' offensive telepathy is superior to a Cerebra-amped Emma. I'm just curious what feats Thanos has in this area that put him so far above an amped Emma, that he could do what she couldn't begin to, and mind-phuck Kuurth ftw..?

Honestly, as much as I kind of cringe during Bendis' Avengers work, I will say that his Infinity Gauntlet arc with Hood was good in that it showed us the bare minimum power level of the Gems when used by someone decidedly unremarkable.

It was repeatedly driven home that Robbins, without his demonic powers or Norn Stone, was essentially just an average man with selfish ambition. And he did some impressive things for being a nobody who didn't even consciously know what he was doing half the time.

We always see this happen in comics. Sane mind enters fubar mind and receives a psychic backlash. No one has a more fukked up mind than Thanos. If anyone can enter Kuurth's mind and not be immediately overwhelmed it's pruneface.

Originally posted by Galan007
While I agree that a user of the mind gem gains telepathy > Xavier, and the like, I still don't see how TP resistance(defense) is being equated to TP output(offense)?

Personally, I have no problem with the notion that Thanos' offensive telepathy is superior to a Cerebra-amped Emma. I'm just curious what feats Thanos has in this area that put him so far above an amped Emma, that he could do what she couldn't begin to, and mind-phuck Kuurth ftw..?

I will add on to this. The manner in which Kuurth no sold Emma mental puckery is impressive considering she was amped, and is the elite skill-wise. This in return places a heavy question mark on Thanos shoulders. Telepathy may, may-not be a viable tactic. And possibly not the best strategy, if Kuurth moving in to wail on Thanos.

Originally posted by Galan007
While I agree that a user of the mind gem gains telepathy > Xavier, and the like, I still don't see how TP resistance(defense) is being equated to TP output(offense)?

Personally, I have no problem with the notion that Thanos' offensive telepathy is superior to a Cerebra-amped Emma. I'm just curious what feats Thanos has in this area that put him so far above an amped Emma, that he could do what she couldn't begin to, and mind-phuck Kuurth ftw..?

I agree, he may not be able to even being above Emma and all... This is true... I would just point to Xavier not even coming close to getting in Galactus mind... While Thanos almost mindraped him without any gem or any amp... That is pretty impressive. As we recently saw... Odin couldn't even come as close as Thanos did.. Imo that is pretty good offensive TP. I mentioned the moondragon situation... she didn't want him getting into her mind when she had the gem.. he still did. He wasnt trying to mindrape her.. but did breach her defenses and gain info... something she could never do even with the gem. Again though, it doesn't mean he could rape Kurrth.. I would just give him better odds to do so..

A avatar of a skyfather vs a avatar of a abstract!

Kuurth doesnt have what it takes to put Thanos down.

Thanos wins.

Originally posted by Nihilist
A avatar of a skyfather vs a avatar of a abstract!

Kuurth doesnt have what it takes to put Thanos down.

Thanos wins.

An avatar of an abstract that has taken on trans, skyfathers, and abstracts.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I agree, he may not be able to even being above Emma and all... This is true... I would just point to Xavier not even coming close to getting in Galactus mind... While Thanos almost mindraped him without any gem or any amp...

Charles: "One psychic command and I could have made EVERY ONE of them go to sleep."

See Galactus in the background? He was obviously one of the characters Xavier was referring to in the above comment. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Galan007
a.) As far as I know, without Moondragon's help, there's no evidence that Thanos would have been able to meet with/fight Galactus on the astral plane at all.
b.) You sure that Galactus>Xavier..?

Charles: "One psychic command and I could have made EVERY ONE of them go to sleep."

See Galactus in the background? He was obviously one of the characters Xavier was referring to in the above comment. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Nihilist
lol you have tried to use that before! dur is that the same comic where he claims the Beyonder is a mutant?

It's the same comic where Beyonder is retconned into an Inhuman/Mutant amalgam (Illuminati #3.)

Originally posted by Galan007
😂

It's the same comic where Beyonder is retconned into an Inhuman/Mutant amalgam (Illuminati #3.)

^ The first 3 issues were good. I didn't like how the last 2 issues tied-in to Secret Invasion, though. It cheapened the whole mini, imo.

Secret Invasion. Heh. Yet another one of Marvel's failures...

Originally posted by Galan007
^ The first 3 issues were good. I didn't like how the last 2 issues tied-in to Secret Invasion, though. It cheapened the whole mini, imo.

Secret Invasion. Heh. Yet another one of Marvel's failures...