Kuurth Durability vs herald level guys

Started by The Sorrow7 pages

Originally posted by Newjak
So you're saying his FF which is one of the most rare items he uses in comics is the source of his invulnerability by saying that it's rare he is shown equally as durable without it...

Wolverine's claws, Nightmare, Cyclops Optic Blasts, the Exemplars, WWH/Savage H,ulk he took all of those without a FF so obviously him tanking high caliber attacks w/o his ff isn't so rare 😛

And obviously WWH was still bleeding because Wolverine was still drawing quite a bit of blood before Hulk knocked Logan away. Hulk can only take Wolverine's claws because of his healing factor that's pretty established by now at the very least he can cut Hulk which he can't do to Juggernaut sans FF.


I personally don't remember a time when he shown as equally durable without his FF than whenever Cain sporadically appeared using it. I could name plenty of instances where he's been hurt without it but you won't find many where he's been hurt while it's on.

Hulk has notoriously had trouble with Wolverines claws, Juggernaut is considerable better at handling sharp objects than the Hulk characters. He's also protected by magical armour so there's that, it would be interesting if Wolverine tried it without the armour on.

Originally posted by juggerman
Full Power Kuurth is unstoppable, unkillable, untouchable, unbeatable, unhurtable, unmovable, unhuggable, unkissable, unlovable, unlikable, unusable, and unusual!

And that, my friends, is why he wins here 😛

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Kuurth doesnt have classic juggernauts durability.
why would you say that... as soon as he became Kuurth and started to wreck shit, he went full juggernaut power! why? because of all the destruction he was causing, he was sent to the sun and came back a step later and was just fine, even cyttorka was all happy about it...

yes cain was a DP levels when he became Kuurth, but that was like for 5 seconds, then he went full power after destryong the raft

I dunno when exactly Kuurth had Juggernaut's full power but i do believe he did get it seeing as how Cyttorak was so pleased that he was wrecking sh!t

Originally posted by Reacting2
why would you say that... as soon as he became Kuurth and started to wreck shit, he went full juggernaut power! why? because of all the destruction he was causing, he was sent to the sun and came back a step later and was just fine, even cyttorka was all happy about it...

yes cain was a DP levels when he became Kuurth, but that was like for 5 seconds, then he went full power after destryong the raft


Was that ever brought out on panel?

Originally posted by juggerman
I dunno when exactly Kuurth had Juggernaut's full power but i do believe he did get it seeing as how Cyttorak was so pleased that he was wrecking sh!t

Again where on panel do we see that?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
I personally don't remember a time when he shown as equally durable without his FF than whenever Cain sporadically appeared using it. I could name plenty of instances where he's been hurt without it but you won't find many where he's been hurt while it's on.

Hulk has notoriously had trouble with Wolverines claws, Juggernaut is considerable better at handling sharp objects than the Hulk characters. He's also protected by magical armour so there's that, it would be interesting if Wolverine tried it without the armour on.

His shield has only been used like 4-5 times in his entire history.

The same amount of times he used his shield is probably how often you can come up with an example of him being hurt.

Never mind most of them have direct Contradictions to them, or are just him yelling even though he shows no sign of being hurt.

Again where on panel do we see that?

when they talked to Cyttorak and he said he was pleased that Cain was finally doing what Cyttorak wanted. and its been established that when Juggernaut pleases Cyttorak with his distruction Cyttorak gives him his power

if Wolverine was stabbed then appeared later on panel with no wounds would you need them to explain to you "oh hey btw Wolverine healed while you werent looking"?

They would hurt him definitely. Event taking portrayal into account, Kuurth would not at all be able to simply shrug off the combined assault of these characters. Heck WBH alone could hurt him. Classic juggernaut himself has been hurt on numerous occasions (he was even brought to his knees by a punch from Prof Hulk) and while generally was above the durabiilty levels of the guys in this list, he was NOT beyond physical harm. Kuurth really didnt do anything to place him so far above classic juggernaut that this team would be unable to harm him (since they definitely would be able to harm classic juggs )

Originally posted by juggerman
I dunno when exactly Kuurth had Juggernaut's full power but i do believe he did get it seeing as how Cyttorak was so pleased that he was wrecking sh!t
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Originally posted by Naija boy
Heck WBH alone could hurt him. )
not really, even WBH durability pales against classic juggernaut

^I would say it "paling" is very debatable featwise but thats besides the point since it is WBH strength that would be at play here. If Prof Hulk could hurt classic juggs, then WBH would do so as well considering the astronomical strength differential between them

when did prof Hulk hurt a FP Juggernaut?

Originally posted by juggerman
when did prof Hulk hurt a FP Juggernaut?

Never. He forced the air from his lungs and caused him some discomfort, but hurt as in damaged? Nope.

Originally posted by zopzop
Quick question for Juggernaut fans, outside of those TWO Thor issues both written within 8 months of each other, when has Juggernaut been shown or mentioned having a shield that surrounds him?
Aside from the instances already mentioned, there's this:

Again, FP Kuurth was a beast, but Lobo could take him. Still not seen any arguments against that.

Lobo doesn't do logic. On panel. No argument can be formed against that.

Exactly.

I guess I may sound like a broken record, but I just love threads where the OP clearly thinks one side would win....and then has a massive loophole lol.

Hell, much as I hate that sorry excuse for a character, Sentry could feasibly solo if he's having one of his extremely good days.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Kuurth doesnt have classic juggernauts durability.

Prove it. Because the comics show him being powered by Cyttorak and the Serpent at the same time.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hell, much as I hate that sorry excuse for a character, Sentry could feasibly solo if he's having one of his extremely good days.

Are you referring to soloing Kuurth? And are you referring to Molecule Man days?