Originally posted by Newjak
So you're saying his FF which is one of the most rare items he uses in comics is the source of his invulnerability by saying that it's rare he is shown equally as durable without it...Wolverine's claws, Nightmare, Cyclops Optic Blasts, the Exemplars, WWH/Savage H,ulk he took all of those without a FF so obviously him tanking high caliber attacks w/o his ff isn't so rare 😛
And obviously WWH was still bleeding because Wolverine was still drawing quite a bit of blood before Hulk knocked Logan away. Hulk can only take Wolverine's claws because of his healing factor that's pretty established by now at the very least he can cut Hulk which he can't do to Juggernaut sans FF.
I personally don't remember a time when he shown as equally durable without his FF than whenever Cain sporadically appeared using it. I could name plenty of instances where he's been hurt without it but you won't find many where he's been hurt while it's on.
Hulk has notoriously had trouble with Wolverines claws, Juggernaut is considerable better at handling sharp objects than the Hulk characters. He's also protected by magical armour so there's that, it would be interesting if Wolverine tried it without the armour on.