Originally posted by carver9
Lobo and WBH destroy Kuurth.
It would start off slow, with neither side being able to do much of anything to the other. Then Hulk's rage fueled strength/stamina/durability boost kicks in and the fight goes down hill for Kuurth from there.
Originally posted by Naija boyso what? they all have low durability compared to juggernaut
Hulk low durability? WBH walked away unscathed from the epicenter of an impact whose residual shockwave disintegrated two savage hulk level beings,
Originally posted by Naija boyGod blast anybody?
[B]...Kuurth actually doesn't even have any durability feat as high .
Originally posted by zopzoptime and time again this has prooven as false... no matter how strong hulk gets, his durability will never be on par with classic juggernaut, how is he going to even hurt classic juggernaut when his fist are not as durable as kuurth skin?
Then Hulk's rage fueled strength/stamina/durability boost kicks in and the fight goes down hill for Kuurth from there.
Originally posted by Reacting2
time and time again this has prooven as false... no matter how strong hulk gets, his durability will never be on par with classic juggernaut, how is he going to even hurt classic juggernaut when his fist are not as durable as kuurth skin?
this is red she hulk cutting thru hulk skin, bones and tissue
again Hulk weak durability exposed...
now juggernaut high durability
Originally posted by Reacting2
this is red she hulk cutting thru hulk skin, bones and tissueagain Hulk weak durability exposed...
now juggernaut high durability
Lol...what's the point of this? This proves Hulk healing factor is next to none. By the way, Skaar cut him with an amped sword and She Rulk was at WBH level when she sliced him. It doesn't matter since Hulk healing factor is top notch...
Example...
Hulk hands is molecular infused in the ground...
http://img145.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=84593_World_War_Hulk_-_X-Men_8002_009_122_845lo.jpg
He rips both his arms/hands off and they grow back instantly.
http://img143.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=84600_World_War_Hulk_-_X-Men_2002_010_122_1113lo.jpg
So stabbing him, doesn't really matter.
Originally posted by carver9actually even that's debatable, Cytorrak´s gem also gives Juggernaut(all juggernauts, FP Kuurth, colossus) a fast Healing Factor, but you wont see it often as he lacks the weak sauce durability Hulk has
Lol...what's the point of this? This proves Hulk healing factor is next to none.
Originally posted by Reacting2
actually even that's debatable, Cytorrak´s gem also gives Juggernaut(all juggernauts, FP Kuurth, colossus) a fast Healing Factor, but you wont see it often as he lacks the weak sauce durability Hulk has
So besides one high ft of Jugs healing factor, what else has Jugs done because the way Hulks healing factor works make him nigh unstoppable and impossible to stop. Hulk is overall more formidable than Jugs.
Originally posted by carver9more formidable than jugs? surely you jest!
So besides one high ft of Jugs healing factor, what else has Jugs done because the way Hulks healing factor works make him nigh unstoppable and impossible to stop. Hulk is overall more formidable than Jugs.
lets make a list...
nigh unstoppable: juggernaut is more formidable than hulk, he is the Unstoppable Juggernaut, not the other way around
durability : juggernaut is more durable than hulk(blunt, piercing, energy attacks) and once in motion he is virtually indestructible
Healing factor: they are about the same, juggernaut is an avatar so his healing factor cant be taxed, but you could argue if the his link to cyttorak is severed he is dead.
so again, how is hulk more formidable than jugs?
Originally posted by Reacting2
more formidable than jugs? surely you jest!lets make a list...
nigh unstoppable: juggernaut is more formidable than hulk, he is the Unstoppable Juggernaut, not the other way around
durability : juggernaut is more durable than hulk(blunt, piercing, energy attacks) and once in motion he is virtually indestructible
Healing factor: they are about the same, juggernaut is an avatar so his healing factor cant be taxed, but you could argue if the his link to cyttorak is severed he is dead.
so again, how is hulk more formidable than jugs?
Going by fts, Hulk is far more stronger than Juggernaut. Even Skaar defeated Jugs whereas an amped Skaar couldn't do the same to WWH and got overpowered with one hand by WWH. Juggernaut also gets stomped regularly by the Xmen whereas WWH took on all of them, a more powerful team and ran through them with ease. Juggernaut is powerful but he is no Hulk. Hulk is physically above him. Juggernaut doeant have the fts Hulk have which puts him a couple of notches below him.
Originally posted by carver9wrong, strengh feats means nothing, Hercules held the entire universe, is he physically superior to juggernaut? hell no
Going by fts, Hulk is far more stronger than Juggernaut.
Originally posted by carver9all he did was BFR him, that´s all any hulk could do to him.
Even Skaar defeated Jugs whereas an amped Skaar couldn't do the same to WWH
Originally posted by carver9stomped? come on now, all they do is mind rape him, thats the ONLY thing hulk is superior to juggernaut. physically juggernaut does better than hulk against the x-men
Juggernaut also gets stomped regularly by the Xmen whereas WWH took on all of theme the fts Hulk have which puts him a couple of notches below him.
Originally posted by carver9wrong again, juggernaut is physically superior to hulk in all aspects
Hulk is physically above him.
Which is why Juggernaut is touted as "the strongest one there is"?
He's strong, don't get me wrong, but he's not as strong as Hulk. His (relative) unstoppability, durability, and comparable strength is what gives him the means to put up a good fight against Banner, but you'll have a hard time actually proving he's stronger than him.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankMarvel HQ thinks he is due to the limitless power of cyttorak he can call upon
Which is why Juggernaut is touted as "the strongest one there is"?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI have old and recent feats, most recent was when he was pushing WWH back only using his strengh
but you'll have a hard time actually proving he's stronger than him.
Originally posted by Reacting2
Marvel HQ thinks he is due to the limitless power of cyttorak he can call uponI have old and recent feats, most recent was when he was pushing WWH back only using his strengh
"Limitless power"? That's what we call hyperbole. And I've not seen any writer or handbook or throw away comment made about Juggernaut stating he's stronger than Hulk. His claim to fame is being unstoppable, not being the benchmark of physical strength.
Pushing WWH back when your primary superpower is being virtually unstoppable isn't something that's a pure strength feat.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
"Limitless power"? That's what we call hyperbole. And I've not seen any writer or handbook or throw away comment made about Juggernaut stating he's stronger than Hulk.
and juggernaut is as strong as he wants to be
Originally posted by JakeTheBankwas confirmed by the author himself that was a pure strenght feat
Pushing WWH back when your primary superpower is being virtually unstoppable isn't something that's a pure strength feat.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
..Thanks to my friend who goes by Cain Marko on his fan site, The writer of the WWH/ X-Men books Christos Gage confirms that it was indeed a test of strength and the Juggernaut matched (and even surpassed) the strongest Hulk to date.http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=5411579&postcount=36
Originally posted by Reacting2and juggernaut is as strong as he wants to be
was confirmed by the author himself that was a pure strenght feat
That letter is pretty funny for a couple of reasons.
1.) That Hulk fan writing in sounds like Carver. Complaining about Hulk losing, bringing up Family Man Hulk, boasting about Hulk's powah.
2.) Current opinion back then means little as to now. Even so, "limitless power" is hyperbole. Unless you think Juggernaut can tap into this source of power and start fighting Celestials and above if it's truly so "limitless".
Juggernaut is as strong as he wants to be? Okay. Hulk is as strong as he wills himself to be via anger, and his strength has also been described as "limitless".
Spoiler:
It's not.
And according to Greg Pak, nothing short of Galactus could have beaten WWH and Hulk had always been holding back until HoTM.
Juggernaut's strength feats don't compare to Hulk's best.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankHOTM Hulk cant start fighting Celestials and above either, but guess what? juggernaut has tapped(indirectly) into more power from the gem(which is only receives a percentage of its power from cyttorak) and he was bringing down reality walls
"limitless power" is hyperbole. Unless you think Juggernaut can tap into this source of power and start fighting Celestials and above if it's truly so "limitless".
Originally posted by JakeTheBankyeah... no.. loeb Force Rulk punched a watcher, shit like that happes all the time
And according to Greg Pak, nothing short of Galactus could have beaten WWH .
Originally posted by JakeTheBankhe does not need them if he beats on hulk and people that beat hulk, hercules has superior strength feats than thanos, that means nothing,
Juggernaut's strength feats don't compare to Hulk's best.
Originally posted by Reacting2
HOTM Hulk cant start fighting Celestials and above either, but guess what? juggernaut has tapped(indirectly) into more power from the gem(which is only receives a percentage of its power from cyttorak) and he was bringing down reality wallsyeah... no.. loeb Force Rulk punched a watcher, shit like that happes all the time
he does not need them if he beats on hulk and people that beat hulk, hercules has superior strength feats than thanos, that means nothing,
And Savage Hulk has punched the timestream and has collapsed dimensions and has been stated to be possessed of "limitless" power. So, again, not really seeing how Juggernaut is physically above Hulk in terms of strength unless you're using a high end arc-amped Cain versus a lower end Hulk.
Okay...? Writer statements are nice and all, but they're not proof, especially when they're contradicted or are just plain nonsense.
When has he "beat on" Hulk and what kind of context? People who aren't as strong as Hulk have beaten up on him or have just outright beaten him. Juggernaut being "unstoppable" and significantly more durable than Hulk doesn't mean he's stronger than him.
