Arishem vs Galactus

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the judge for me wins

Originally posted by Darth Jello
If Arishem won. Wouldn't he soon be killed by Abraxas?

Where was Abraxas when Voltron comatosed/killed Galactus?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
You might be right in regards to Galactus vs Arishem, but I don't think he's above any Celestial not named Scathan. I know he was afraid of Tiamut, even before Tiamut ascended. Considering Exitar is more powerful than the entire fourth host, I'd say he would beat Galactus as well.

And I don't think it was an accident that Galactus ate four planets before he fought four celestials, which tells me, him eating one planet, makes him equal to one celestial. If that's true, this fight would depend on how many planets Galactus ate, if he was hungry, etc.

As pertains Galactus being scared of Tiamut, Galactus wasnt scared of an IG amped Thanos, so I chalk up Galactus being scared of Tiamut up to them jobbing Galactus out to establish Tiamuts credibility...

As pertains Exitar, yeah its stated that hes that strong, but there is no feat of his to back it up; didnt Exitar have to prep 1000 years (or something like that) to defeat the greatest of the Watchers?

And just to go back to Tiamut for a moment, Galactus outperformed a "host" of Celestials against The Galactus Engine...

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The fact that Arishem was referred as the "mightiest Celestial" of the 4th Host in Thor # 300 , along with his performance against 3 elite skyfathers , along with the fact that he withstood a point blank planet-core enhanced Mjolnir strike from Thor , leads me to believe that this fight is quite close , and is in all likelihood a toss-up .

Edit : Welcome back .

Thanx bro! 🙂

You might be right, btw, about Arishem and Galactus being a toss up, but wasnt Arishem (atleast it sort of appeared to be) one of the Celestials present when Galactus was the last man standing against The Galactus Engine?

Originally posted by zopzop
Where was Abraxas when Voltron comatosed/killed Galactus?

He wasn't dead. Writers confirmed this.

Fully powered, Id pick Galactus to defeat any single Celestial.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanx bro! 🙂

You might be right, btw, about Arishem and Galactus being a toss up, but wasnt Arishem (atleast it sort of appeared to be) one of the Celestials present when Galactus was the last man standing against The Galactus Engine?

Yup . I have always agreed that Galactus' only decent feat compared to 616 Celestials is that he apparently outlasted them against the GE . Apart from that , based on Arishem's showing against Odin , Zeus and Vishnu , along with the one against Thor , plus kid Franklin Richards(who was around the power of an average 616-Celestial) outperforming Galactus against Mephisto in his own realm , gives an edge with regard to those instances , to a high end Celestial like Arishem .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yup . I have always agreed that Galactus' only decent feat compared to 616 Celestials is that he apparently outlasted them against the GE . Apart from that , based on Arishem's showing against Odin , Zeus and Vishnu , along with the one against Thor , plus kid Franklin Richards(who was around the power of an average 616-Celestial) outperforming Galactus against Mephisto in his own realm , gives an edge with regard to those instances , to a high end Celestial like Arishem .

Hmmm...that is true...I guess it is a toss up afterall.

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

As pertains Exitar, yeah its stated that hes that strong, but there is no feat of his to back it up; didnt Exitar have to prep 1000 years (or something like that) to defeat the greatest of the Watchers?

Well, he didn't just defeat him, he ONE-SHOT KILLED HIM. And I don't think he was just sitting around storing energy either, because we see him in MANY battles just a few years before that battle, so that didn't even really make much sense.

Galactus wins.

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Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yup . I have always agreed that Galactus' only decent feat compared to 616 Celestials is that he apparently outlasted them against the GE . Apart from that , based on Arishem's showing against Odin , Zeus and Vishnu , along with the one against Thor , plus kid Franklin Richards(who was around the power of an average 616-Celestial) outperforming Galactus against Mephisto in his own realm , gives an edge with regard to those instances , to a high end Celestial like Arishem .
Yeah, and we didn't even see what happened with the GE.

Arishem FTW, though Galactus will no doubt make a fight of it before he goes down.

Galactus has the combat feats. Arishem hasn't fought any cosmic being/cosmic entity one-on-one to substantiate any claims of superiority.

Originally posted by DTM
Fully powered, Id pick Galactus to defeat any single Celestial.

Ashirem is a low tier Celestial who was knocked around by Thor? And Galactus has killed numerous Celestials and taken dumps on pretty much every Asgardian.

Let me put it this way, if you don't see why Galactus would win then you wouldn't be able to read signals even if a woman pepper sprayed you in public.

Yep, this is another guaranteed 10/10.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Ashirem is a low tier Celestial who was knocked around by Thor? And Galactus has killed numerous Celestials and taken dumps on pretty much every Asgardian.

Let me put it this way, if you don't see why Galactus would win then you wouldn't be able to read signals even if a woman pepper sprayed you in public.

Yep, this is another guaranteed 10/10.

What makes you think Arishem is a low tier Celestial?

Knocked around by Thor? I guess we have different definitions of "knocked around". But while we're on the subject, Thor has driven back Galatus, cracked his helmet twice, BRB has cracked his helmet, Odin has had a good showing against him, etc. Just recently Thor made Galactus feel pain.

And who are these numerous 616 Celestials that a non-amped Galactus has killed?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
What makes you think Arishem is a low tier Celestial?

Because he's doesn't have any titles or feats suggesting otherwise.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Knocked around by Thor? I guess we have different definitions of "knocked around".

Let's see, making him fall on his back, impaling him with a sword, etc. Yeah, knocked around. He also shot Thor twice without stopping him.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris But while we're on the subject, Thor has driven back Galatus, cracked his helmet twice, BRB has cracked his helmet, Odin has had a good showing against him, etc. Just recently Thor made Galactus feel pain.

That's known as PIS. Why? Because Galactus has knocked out Thor with the uttermost ease more times than I care to remember.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris And who are these numerous 616 Celestials that a non-amped Galactus has killed?

They are unnamed. But the forum doesn't allow me to post links or images.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Because he's doesn't have any titles or feats suggesting otherwise.

How many Celestials have their own titles?

Originally posted by Effect Veiler

Let's see, making him fall on his back, impaling him with a sword, etc. Yeah, knocked around. He also shot Thor twice without stopping him.

You know Thor with that sword isn't a normal Thor right? Also, Arishem wasn't hurt by either attack.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler

That's known as PIS. Why? Because Galactus has knocked out Thor with the uttermost ease more times than I care to remember.

So that's PIS, but Thor "knocking around" a being who can swat Odin away like a fly isn't? In actuality, Thor, BRB, and Odin all have CONSISTENTLY done well against Galactus (depending on your definition of "doing well"😉. Beta Ray Bill could have killed Galactus had he wanted to.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler

They are unnamed. But the forum doesn't allow me to post links or images.

You mean an unnamed Celestial from a different universe, being killed by a Galactus who had just consumed 4 planets?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
How many Celestials have their own titles?[1]

You know Thor with that sword isn't a normal Thor right? Also, Arishem wasn't hurt by either attack. [2]

So that's PIS, but Thor "knocking around" a being who can swat Odin away like a fly isn't? In actuality, Thor, BRB, and Odin all have CONSISTENTLY done well against Galactus (depending on your definition of "doing well"😉. Beta Ray Bill could have killed Galactus had he wanted to.[3]

You mean an unnamed Celestial from a different universe, being killed by a Galactus who had just consumed 4 planets? [4]

[1] What does it matter?

[2] He still took two blasts from the Celestials and could still fight and tipped him over before he got hold of the sword. Galactus would've one-shotted Thor.

[3] It's PIS because there are no other records. Also doesn't Galactus have a multiverse destroying device? That's beyond any Celestial.

[4] No there are two Celestials getting killed in this scan.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler

He still took two blasts from the Celestials and could still fight and tipped him over before he got hold of the sword. Galactus would've one-shotted Thor.

Really? You mean like this:

Looks like Thor's starting to get up after getting blasted by Galactus there. There are other examples as well, as spread out over DECADES of Thor not being one-shot by Galactus.